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	<title>Comments on: The Meaning of Jobs &#8220;Created,&#8221; Part II</title>
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		<title>By: DavidS1787</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5247</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidS1787</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5246</link>
		<dc:creator>OccamsRazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are Conservatives in a position of proving a negative?</description>
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		<title>By: DavidS1787</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5245</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidS1787</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch the latest business video at &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.foxbusiness.com/&quot;&gt;FOXBusiness.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: martyinaz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5244</link>
		<dc:creator>martyinaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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...in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.... Adolph Hitler Ch 10 Mein Kampf</description>
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&#8230;in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes&#8230;. Adolph Hitler Ch 10 Mein Kampf</p>
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		<title>By: DavidS1787</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5243</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidS1787</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you!  There needs to be more investigation ! S heard more incompetence tonight on Greta Van Sustern&#039;s Show On The Record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you!  There needs to be more investigation ! S heard more incompetence tonight on Greta Van Sustern&#8217;s Show On The Record.</p>
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		<title>By: martyinaz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5242</link>
		<dc:creator>martyinaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They never stop to do the math. It&#039;s far too complicated.They won&#039;t bother to read the health care bill either.

Like a spider, socialism spins its sticky web to entrap its prey before devouring it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They never stop to do the math. It&#8217;s far too complicated.They won&#8217;t bother to read the health care bill either.</p>
<p>Like a spider, socialism spins its sticky web to entrap its prey before devouring it.</p>
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		<title>By: ClockDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5186</link>
		<dc:creator>ClockDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see most of the focus on fake jobs created in fake districts.

My question is. Where was that money actually spent? This may well be a false accounting of huge sums of taxpayer funds going into the hands of cronies that cannot be accounted for in an otherwise legal way.
Could we please follow the money on this one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see most of the focus on fake jobs created in fake districts.</p>
<p>My question is. Where was that money actually spent? This may well be a false accounting of huge sums of taxpayer funds going into the hands of cronies that cannot be accounted for in an otherwise legal way.<br />
Could we please follow the money on this one?</p>
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		<title>By: danielbdp</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5177</link>
		<dc:creator>danielbdp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make no mistake - everything this Administration and complicit Congress do, with their complicit and unlawful organizations such as ACORN, Apollo, Tides Foundation, etc. is geared toward the &quot;remaking&quot; of America 

Take a read at the below article published yesterday in Newsweek (hardly a right-wing publication)

November 16, 2009 - Newsweek
Obama&#039;s Malpractice
By Robert Samuelson
 
The disconnect between what President Obama says and what he&#039;s doing is so glaring that most people could not abide it. The president, his advisers and allies have no trouble. But reconciling blatantly contradictory objectives requires them to engage in willful self-deception, public dishonesty, or both.
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/11/16/obamas_malpractice_99161.html

Please, team up with great organizations like Heritage Foundation, Judicial Watch, National Center for Policy Analysis, the Cato Institute, Concerned Women for America,  Citizens Against Government Waste, DownsizeDC.org and the like, to resist these lying, looting thugs until the next elections!! Then make sure everyone you know learns about these abuses and votes against them!!  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make no mistake &#8211; everything this Administration and complicit Congress do, with their complicit and unlawful organizations such as ACORN, Apollo, Tides Foundation, etc. is geared toward the &#8220;remaking&#8221; of America </p>
<p>Take a read at the below article published yesterday in Newsweek (hardly a right-wing publication)</p>
<p>November 16, 2009 &#8211; Newsweek<br />
Obama&#8217;s Malpractice<br />
By Robert Samuelson</p>
<p>The disconnect between what President Obama says and what he&#8217;s doing is so glaring that most people could not abide it. The president, his advisers and allies have no trouble. But reconciling blatantly contradictory objectives requires them to engage in willful self-deception, public dishonesty, or both.</p>
<p>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/11/16/obamas_malpractice_99161.html</p>
<p>Please, team up with great organizations like Heritage Foundation, Judicial Watch, National Center for Policy Analysis, the Cato Institute, Concerned Women for America,  Citizens Against Government Waste, DownsizeDC.org and the like, to resist these lying, looting thugs until the next elections!! Then make sure everyone you know learns about these abuses and votes against them!!  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: GCBWI</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5176</link>
		<dc:creator>GCBWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was spent creating new congressional districts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was spent creating new congressional districts?</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5174</link>
		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how there can be more votes cast in certain precincts than there are people registered to vote.  Now I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how there can be more votes cast in certain precincts than there are people registered to vote.  Now I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5172</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty neat trick.

Maybe if they expanded whatever program this is....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty neat trick.</p>
<p>Maybe if they expanded whatever program this is&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5168</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;SteelBlue&quot;&gt;in which Barack Obama is “&lt;s&gt;cr&lt;/s&gt;eating jobs” &lt;/blockquote&gt;


There, I fixed it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><font color="SteelBlue">in which Barack Obama is “<s>cr</s>eating jobs” </font></p></blockquote>
<p>There, I fixed it <img src='http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5167</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind.  Probably can&#039;t squeeze it in.  Too many other important stories:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Is it Bristol&#039;s baby , or is it actually Sarah&#039;s?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;investigating whether CIA guys tortured those poor little terrorists&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wow!  How about that, we&#039;re out of the recession.....&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Global Warming&#8482;&lt;/b&gt;....uh, I mean, &lt;b&gt;Climate Change&#8482;.  Ugh!  America bad! China good!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Obama&#039;s numbers, still above 45%!!!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Government-run health care will create competition, and not increase the deficit!  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad insurance companies!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad Republicans!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad corporations!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad America!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad pro-lifers!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Oh, yes, and how about those teabaggers? ::snicker::&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind.  Probably can&#8217;t squeeze it in.  Too many other important stories:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is it Bristol&#8217;s baby , or is it actually Sarah&#8217;s?</li>
<li>investigating whether CIA guys tortured those poor little terrorists</li>
<li>Wow!  How about that, we&#8217;re out of the recession&#8230;..</li>
<li><b>Global Warming&trade;</b>&#8230;.uh, I mean, <b>Climate Change&trade;.  Ugh!  America bad! China good!</b></li>
<li>Obama&#8217;s numbers, still above 45%!!!</li>
<li>Government-run health care will create competition, and not increase the deficit!  </li>
<li>Bad insurance companies!</li>
<li>Bad Republicans!</li>
<li>Bad corporations!</li>
<li>Bad America!</li>
<li>Bad pro-lifers!</li>
<li>Oh, yes, and how about those teabaggers? ::snicker::</li>
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		<title>By: Wing Zero</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5166</link>
		<dc:creator>Wing Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to see how many state districts there were in AZ.  There  are only 30.  I had hoped... hope... ha ha ha... that it was just sloppiness on the part of the government.  

I should have known better.  

This means that Recovery.gov is just pulling numbers out of it&#039;s you know what, or that they are receiving numbers from states and not fact checking them.  Knowing what I know about how government works, probably both.  

I&#039;ve checked around the web but have been unable to find who actually runs Recovery.gov.  Sounds like one of our intrepid and well connected directors needs to find out....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to see how many state districts there were in AZ.  There  are only 30.  I had hoped&#8230; hope&#8230; ha ha ha&#8230; that it was just sloppiness on the part of the government.  </p>
<p>I should have known better.  </p>
<p>This means that Recovery.gov is just pulling numbers out of it&#8217;s you know what, or that they are receiving numbers from states and not fact checking them.  Knowing what I know about how government works, probably both.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve checked around the web but have been unable to find who actually runs Recovery.gov.  Sounds like one of our intrepid and well connected directors needs to find out&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ciscoguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5163</link>
		<dc:creator>ciscoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you expect more than a couple of reporters to fact-check recovery.gov?  They&#039;re probably all still up in Wasilla trying to figure out the *real* mother of Trig Palin.

So what - we spent more on the &quot;stimulus&quot; with one stroke of the pen than the entire time we were in Iraq.  What&#039;s the big whoop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you expect more than a couple of reporters to fact-check recovery.gov?  They&#8217;re probably all still up in Wasilla trying to figure out the *real* mother of Trig Palin.</p>
<p>So what &#8211; we spent more on the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; with one stroke of the pen than the entire time we were in Iraq.  What&#8217;s the big whoop?</p>
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		<title>By: joejharvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>joejharvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole idea of estimating where the &quot;stimulus&quot; has created jobs is ridiculous. They are just estimates and could just easily be many times higher or lower. Total fabrication.

What is true is that $800bn is being spent on &quot;stimulus&quot; and the US has 10.2% unemployment (~16m people). A normal unemployment of 5% would mean 8m more people would have jobs. 

Shouldn&#039;t $800,000,000,000 be enough money to give 8m people jobs, if it was really designed to help boost the economy and not just buy votes? $800bn equates to a $50k/yr income for all of the people who are unemployed over the normal rate. Oh yeah, enough for them to have a job for TWO years.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole idea of estimating where the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; has created jobs is ridiculous. They are just estimates and could just easily be many times higher or lower. Total fabrication.</p>
<p>What is true is that $800bn is being spent on &#8220;stimulus&#8221; and the US has 10.2% unemployment (~16m people). A normal unemployment of 5% would mean 8m more people would have jobs. </p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t $800,000,000,000 be enough money to give 8m people jobs, if it was really designed to help boost the economy and not just buy votes? $800bn equates to a $50k/yr income for all of the people who are unemployed over the normal rate. Oh yeah, enough for them to have a job for TWO years.</p>
<p>http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5160</link>
		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gangs Making &#039;Millions of Dollars&#039; Selling Fake H1N1 Drugs Online

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575327,00.html?test=latestnews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gangs Making &#8216;Millions of Dollars&#8217; Selling Fake H1N1 Drugs Online</p>
<p>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575327,00.html?test=latestnews</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5159</link>
		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by Obama are all of his &quot;Czars&quot;, PR people and the hordes of lobbyists that don&#039;t seem to go away.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Obama are all of his &#8220;Czars&#8221;, PR people and the hordes of lobbyists that don&#8217;t seem to go away&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: makemyday</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5157</link>
		<dc:creator>makemyday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>creating voters,crisis, support for their loony left ideas, and now Congressional Districts?  Why am not surprised?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>creating voters,crisis, support for their loony left ideas, and now Congressional Districts?  Why am not surprised?</p>
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		<title>By: historyliz1980</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/11/16/the-meaning-of-jobs-created-part-ii/#comment-5155</link>
		<dc:creator>historyliz1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with EVERYTHING that President Obama stands for, I almost feel sorry for someone so tragically inept at running...well...anything. 
I did say almost.......I caught myself in time. phew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with EVERYTHING that President Obama stands for, I almost feel sorry for someone so tragically inept at running&#8230;well&#8230;anything.<br />
I did say almost&#8230;&#8230;.I caught myself in time. phew</p>
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