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		<title>By: nessa</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scubadiver49er</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sacrifice to keep the terrorists at bay here at home is largely due to the efforts taking place in the  Afghanistan theatre, by our heroes who have put their lives on the front line!  We have lost significant lives to maintain the security (not perfect, but better than the alternative) that we presently have here at home.  BHO, your original objective as I understand it, was to cut off the head of this terrorist &quot;snake&quot;, and nail Osama binLaden, who is believed to be somewhere in this region.  We need to finish this job and go home.  This &quot;pussyfooting&quot; around, BHO, is going cost all the more lives of our marines there, and will ultimately lead to another 9/11, if we don&#039;t finish this job!!  Give the general what he is asking for and let&#039;s get this over with!!!  BHO, please do not waste the lives that have already been lost, for nothing if you continue your non-action in this crisis we are facing, and we fail because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sacrifice to keep the terrorists at bay here at home is largely due to the efforts taking place in the  Afghanistan theatre, by our heroes who have put their lives on the front line!  We have lost significant lives to maintain the security (not perfect, but better than the alternative) that we presently have here at home.  BHO, your original objective as I understand it, was to cut off the head of this terrorist &#8220;snake&#8221;, and nail Osama binLaden, who is believed to be somewhere in this region.  We need to finish this job and go home.  This &#8220;pussyfooting&#8221; around, BHO, is going cost all the more lives of our marines there, and will ultimately lead to another 9/11, if we don&#8217;t finish this job!!  Give the general what he is asking for and let&#8217;s get this over with!!!  BHO, please do not waste the lives that have already been lost, for nothing if you continue your non-action in this crisis we are facing, and we fail because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: voxoreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>voxoreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems as though Obama is deliberately trying to &quot;earn&quot; this perception. Israel&#039;s Netanyahu spoke on Fox News and clearly insinuated that Israel simply couldn&#039;t survive Obama&#039;s &quot;leadership.&quot; Meanwhile, one of Obama&#039;s weasel/advisors suggested that we might shoot down an Israeli plane flying over Iraq to take out Iran&#039;s nukes. It doesn&#039;t seem like a wild stretch to me that Obama might just arrange an &quot;accidental&quot; attack on an Israeli plane as a successful run on Iran might take care of the problem while Obama the Weak sits and &quot;strategizes.&quot; Just another major issue that The One has no experience with...but won&#039;t listen to those who have done it for decades and know the score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems as though Obama is deliberately trying to &#8220;earn&#8221; this perception. Israel&#8217;s Netanyahu spoke on Fox News and clearly insinuated that Israel simply couldn&#8217;t survive Obama&#8217;s &#8220;leadership.&#8221; Meanwhile, one of Obama&#8217;s weasel/advisors suggested that we might shoot down an Israeli plane flying over Iraq to take out Iran&#8217;s nukes. It doesn&#8217;t seem like a wild stretch to me that Obama might just arrange an &#8220;accidental&#8221; attack on an Israeli plane as a successful run on Iran might take care of the problem while Obama the Weak sits and &#8220;strategizes.&#8221; Just another major issue that The One has no experience with&#8230;but won&#8217;t listen to those who have done it for decades and know the score.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/09/22/general-mcchrystal-to-obama-more-troops-or-i-quit/#comment-4690</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We tried an Ostrich-based foreign policy.  We got 9/11 for our trouble.

We have to fight the terrorists in their home, before they come to our home.  There&#039;s no other way about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tried an Ostrich-based foreign policy.  We got 9/11 for our trouble.</p>
<p>We have to fight the terrorists in their home, before they come to our home.  There&#8217;s no other way about it.</p>
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		<title>By: gregofmich</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregofmich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bought the &quot;judgement not experience&quot; rhetoric, but the fact that America just elected a first term Senator to the Presidency is not lost on our adversaries, and I doubt they&#039;ve stopped laughing yet.  Quail had his deer-in-the-headlights moment on the campaign trail. When President GQ has his, it&#039;s all of us who will lose, dearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bought the &#8220;judgement not experience&#8221; rhetoric, but the fact that America just elected a first term Senator to the Presidency is not lost on our adversaries, and I doubt they&#8217;ve stopped laughing yet.  Quail had his deer-in-the-headlights moment on the campaign trail. When President GQ has his, it&#8217;s all of us who will lose, dearly.</p>
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		<title>By: freetexpal</title>
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		<dc:creator>freetexpal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relative to the following quote: &quot;Everyone in the room caught the phonetic reference to WTF - which in the military and elsewhere means “What the [expletive]?”  In the case of the post-turtle, the explanation is apropos, however if I were in the shoes of General McChrystal, after the first volley of responses came down from the White House, my next response would have been similarly apropos, e.g. Whiskey Tango Xray, is your problem, Bravo-India-Tango-Charley-Hotel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relative to the following quote: &#8220;Everyone in the room caught the phonetic reference to WTF &#8211; which in the military and elsewhere means “What the [expletive]?”  In the case of the post-turtle, the explanation is apropos, however if I were in the shoes of General McChrystal, after the first volley of responses came down from the White House, my next response would have been similarly apropos, e.g. Whiskey Tango Xray, is your problem, Bravo-India-Tango-Charley-Hotel?</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Brockway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick Brockway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have several guys from my platoon in my reserve unit mobilizing right now, and what the general means when he says &quot;...we may lose...&quot; is; &quot;...we will lose people in greater numbers...&quot;.
I can&#039;t &lt;i&gt;stand&lt;/i&gt; to think of losing more friends because Obama want&#039;s to appease his friggin base or an overseas dictator, or whatever he&#039;s doing.
I&#039;m calling BS on the Obama needing &quot;careful thought&quot; crap, Gen McChrystal is the subject matter expert, and above him are still more experts, and he has a battle plan and it&#039;s time to let him engage. nobody can try to tell me that Obama wasn&#039;t briefed on the plan months ago.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Yes, he&#039;ll be a good soldier, but he will only go so far,&quot; a senior official in Kabul said. &quot;He&#039;ll hold his ground. He&#039;s not going to bend to political pressure.&quot; [also from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/billroggio&quot;&gt;@BillRoggio&lt;/a&gt; post linked above.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He&#039;s not the only one feeling that way today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have several guys from my platoon in my reserve unit mobilizing right now, and what the general means when he says &#8220;&#8230;we may lose&#8230;&#8221; is; &#8220;&#8230;we will lose people in greater numbers&#8230;&#8221;.<br />
I can&#8217;t <i>stand</i> to think of losing more friends because Obama want&#8217;s to appease his friggin base or an overseas dictator, or whatever he&#8217;s doing.<br />
I&#8217;m calling BS on the Obama needing &#8220;careful thought&#8221; crap, Gen McChrystal is the subject matter expert, and above him are still more experts, and he has a battle plan and it&#8217;s time to let him engage. nobody can try to tell me that Obama wasn&#8217;t briefed on the plan months ago.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Yes, he&#8217;ll be a good soldier, but he will only go so far,&#8221; a senior official in Kabul said. &#8220;He&#8217;ll hold his ground. He&#8217;s not going to bend to political pressure.&#8221; [also from the <a href="http://twitter.com/billroggio">@BillRoggio</a> post linked above.
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<p>He&#8217;s not the only one feeling that way today.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackal4444</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackal4444</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cited article, far from stating Gen McChrystal&#039;s commitment to quit unless he gets the troops, simply quotes fellow officers at the Pentagon and in-theater stating that it would be in McChrystal&#039;s character to do so rather than compromise.  Perhaps that&#039;s just military-diplo-speak dictated by the transmission method (a leak, versus a formal announcement), but I wouldn&#039;t assume too much at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cited article, far from stating Gen McChrystal&#8217;s commitment to quit unless he gets the troops, simply quotes fellow officers at the Pentagon and in-theater stating that it would be in McChrystal&#8217;s character to do so rather than compromise.  Perhaps that&#8217;s just military-diplo-speak dictated by the transmission method (a leak, versus a formal announcement), but I wouldn&#8217;t assume too much at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: billg</title>
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		<dc:creator>billg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ENOUGH TO SAY OUT LOUD WHAT I AM ABOUT TO WRITE!  This is now a political war, not about winning the fight to defeat the Taliban.  The current president is embarrassed by the word VICTORY.  He has his Muslim brothers as the adversary.  He is not interested in foreign policy unless it is to BULLY ISRAEL into giving in to the MUSLIM world.  SO, it is an economic crisis in the U.S. and we can&#039;t afford to keep borrowing money from the Chinese and Saudis and others who hate us or wish to destroy us and our standing in the world.  So, in the SPIRIT OF KEEPING OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN FROM BEING KILLED TRYING TO AVOID SHOOTING AN ENEMY WHO HIDES BEHIND OLD MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN AFGHANSTAN AND IRAQ, LET US JUST PACK UP AND BRING OUR TROOPS HOME, STARTING TOMORROW.  I mean all of them; Europe, Asia, Middle East, everywhere.  Let the Europeans kill themselves like their history has been repeated over and over in the past.  Let the Asians settle their scores among themselves, like they have done for centuries in the past.  Bring our troops home; we need them here to protect our borders; to stand guard over our domestic tranquility; build our roads and improve our infrastructure and conduct our meals on wheels diplomacy among the states at home.  You see, when you enlist or take an oath to become a commissioned officer in the military, you swear to uphold the Constitution and defend the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.  Boy, if we don&#039;t need a trained and loyal force to defend us from domestic enemies at this time, I don&#039;t know when we would. So, let us start the redeployment now.  General McChrystal come on home and put in your retirement papers and on your way, bring the troops home with you.  If the JCS have any &quot;balls&quot; they will sign the redeployment orders tomorrow.  Secretary Gates can go on back over the the Council on Foreign Relations or wherever he belongs and let the current Commander in Chief send wanna be Marine, Hillary Clinton, over to DOD to watch over the retreat.  MAY GOD HELP THE USA endure this communist takeover of the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ENOUGH TO SAY OUT LOUD WHAT I AM ABOUT TO WRITE!  This is now a political war, not about winning the fight to defeat the Taliban.  The current president is embarrassed by the word VICTORY.  He has his Muslim brothers as the adversary.  He is not interested in foreign policy unless it is to BULLY ISRAEL into giving in to the MUSLIM world.  SO, it is an economic crisis in the U.S. and we can&#8217;t afford to keep borrowing money from the Chinese and Saudis and others who hate us or wish to destroy us and our standing in the world.  So, in the SPIRIT OF KEEPING OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN FROM BEING KILLED TRYING TO AVOID SHOOTING AN ENEMY WHO HIDES BEHIND OLD MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN AFGHANSTAN AND IRAQ, LET US JUST PACK UP AND BRING OUR TROOPS HOME, STARTING TOMORROW.  I mean all of them; Europe, Asia, Middle East, everywhere.  Let the Europeans kill themselves like their history has been repeated over and over in the past.  Let the Asians settle their scores among themselves, like they have done for centuries in the past.  Bring our troops home; we need them here to protect our borders; to stand guard over our domestic tranquility; build our roads and improve our infrastructure and conduct our meals on wheels diplomacy among the states at home.  You see, when you enlist or take an oath to become a commissioned officer in the military, you swear to uphold the Constitution and defend the country from all enemies both foreign and domestic.  Boy, if we don&#8217;t need a trained and loyal force to defend us from domestic enemies at this time, I don&#8217;t know when we would. So, let us start the redeployment now.  General McChrystal come on home and put in your retirement papers and on your way, bring the troops home with you.  If the JCS have any &#8220;balls&#8221; they will sign the redeployment orders tomorrow.  Secretary Gates can go on back over the the Council on Foreign Relations or wherever he belongs and let the current Commander in Chief send wanna be Marine, Hillary Clinton, over to DOD to watch over the retreat.  MAY GOD HELP THE USA endure this communist takeover of the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: azred</title>
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		<dc:creator>azred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you put a whannabee rock star personality in the WH.
He is only good at a few things namely 
a)campaigning for his next job while getting paid to not do what he is supposed to do.
b)arrogantly waxing over what he thinks the world should be (and the country, and the courts, and the Constitution, etc etc)
c)reading a teleprompter
d)Driving that bus - the one with a large crowd inspecting the undercarriage.

As was told ad nauseum pre-election: he has no experience in anything that is required to govern a block watch let alone this country.  

The result, we get to hear him deliver speech after speech - because like a rock star, he is only happy when he has an audience slobbering over every word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you put a whannabee rock star personality in the WH.<br />
He is only good at a few things namely<br />
a)campaigning for his next job while getting paid to not do what he is supposed to do.<br />
b)arrogantly waxing over what he thinks the world should be (and the country, and the courts, and the Constitution, etc etc)<br />
c)reading a teleprompter<br />
d)Driving that bus &#8211; the one with a large crowd inspecting the undercarriage.</p>
<p>As was told ad nauseum pre-election: he has no experience in anything that is required to govern a block watch let alone this country.  </p>
<p>The result, we get to hear him deliver speech after speech &#8211; because like a rock star, he is only happy when he has an audience slobbering over every word.</p>
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		<title>By: kcdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>kcdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Before the election, Obama proclaimed that Bush was wasting our troops in Iraq because our real enemy was in Afghanistan/Pakistan.  He said he would engage in dialogue with the generals in the theater to ensure they have the troops and equipment they need to fight the Afghanistan war.  

2.  Obama says he will take the fight to them in the &#039;comprehensive strategy&#039; he announces in March 2009.  The strategy lays out a &#039;clear mission&#039; with &#039;defined goals&#039;  So we can win a &#039;war of necessity&#039; that is &#039;&#039;fundamental to the defense of our people.&#039;  Obama authorizes and DOD provides JUST OVER HALF the number of troops requested by the generals with whom Obama has dialoged.   

3.  In August, Obama proclaims the strategy for defeating the Taliban has been in place since March.  

4.  In September, the general leading the fight in Afghanistan tells DOD and Obama he needs more troops and he needs them NOW or we may fail.  This general was picked to implement the &#039;comprehensive strategy&#039;.  He has identified a need and he has been told to put the request on hold to allow time for more evaluation.  It so happens that he is sounding the same call as his predecessor. 

5.  It&#039;s obvious to me, this general has got to go.  These generals just do not seem to know how to fight an enemy.  It&#039;s been awhile but I recall that we really didn&#039;t need armor in Mogadishu a few years back either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Before the election, Obama proclaimed that Bush was wasting our troops in Iraq because our real enemy was in Afghanistan/Pakistan.  He said he would engage in dialogue with the generals in the theater to ensure they have the troops and equipment they need to fight the Afghanistan war.  </p>
<p>2.  Obama says he will take the fight to them in the &#8216;comprehensive strategy&#8217; he announces in March 2009.  The strategy lays out a &#8216;clear mission&#8217; with &#8216;defined goals&#8217;  So we can win a &#8216;war of necessity&#8217; that is &#8221;fundamental to the defense of our people.&#8217;  Obama authorizes and DOD provides JUST OVER HALF the number of troops requested by the generals with whom Obama has dialoged.   </p>
<p>3.  In August, Obama proclaims the strategy for defeating the Taliban has been in place since March.  </p>
<p>4.  In September, the general leading the fight in Afghanistan tells DOD and Obama he needs more troops and he needs them NOW or we may fail.  This general was picked to implement the &#8216;comprehensive strategy&#8217;.  He has identified a need and he has been told to put the request on hold to allow time for more evaluation.  It so happens that he is sounding the same call as his predecessor. </p>
<p>5.  It&#8217;s obvious to me, this general has got to go.  These generals just do not seem to know how to fight an enemy.  It&#8217;s been awhile but I recall that we really didn&#8217;t need armor in Mogadishu a few years back either.</p>
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