There’s been a lot of controversy about President Barack Obama’s plan to give a speech to the nation’s public (only public) schoolchildren on September 8 (the Tuesday after Labor Day), a controversy Caleb Howe comprehensively summarizes here. The problem isn’t the President giving a pro-education message to the nation’s kids, something that’s part of any president’s job; the problem is the specter of enlisting of public school teachers, already a core interest group supporting Obama, in indoctrinating kids in his agenda. The conservative uproar over the Department of Education’s proposed materials for the speech seems to have already scored a victory in forcing the Administration to scale back its plans.
But I’m from New York. When I mentioned this speech to my wife, her immediate reaction was that Obama wasn’t looking at the calendar: the New York City schools, public and private, aren’t even in session yet the day after Labor Day. Obama’s effort to roll this into a massive PR blitz with the following day’s health care speech to a joint session of Congress will fail in my neck of the woods because nobody paid attention to the school calendar.
I suspect Obama rushed to coincide the speech with a Bill Gates-produced back to school education documentary that Obama will be appearing on the same evening on a battery of cable channels (because really, what Obama needs is more press). But either way, I’ll be keeping my kids home September 8 from their (Catholic) school – because they don’t have school anyway.
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DerKrieger (Diary) Wednesday, September 2nd at 11:11PM EST (link)…staying home.
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“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
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Don't confuse the argument. Obama doesn't have the right to talk to your kids.
archer52 Thursday, September 3rd at 12:32AM EST (link)Again, it is all about the fact that the starting point where argument begin often sets up who wins (Van Jones is right about this). You have to take a step back from “how much damage can Obama do when talking to kids” to what in the heck is he thinking by doing it in the first place?? Does he believe he has the right? Does he think he can begin the transition from young individual minds to those who will follow “dear leader?” Is his intentions innocent or are we seeing the first of many examples of his deep belief that he is, in fact, the political messiah.
By allowing it without complaint, like many sheep will by taking the position “what harm can be done”, are you giving up too much ground? By giving him the benefit of the doubt, are we allowing him to get too close to our kids? He understands how important your kids are to the future of the nation, do you?
Then there is the whole issue of legality. Can a government run educational institution promote, hold and then indoctrinate children in a closed environment? Where’s the fairness czar demanding equal time?
This is the trouble with being inside a revolution. You can’t always get a good perspective on what the other side is doing. For that fact, I think you should always prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Obama does not have the right, nor should be given the opportunity to be the “face” of their encouragement and the one they will strive to please. That is the job of their parents. As is the cultivation of the child’s political exposure. Pull your kid for the speech, it is your right as the ones responsible for their upbringing.
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2009/09/02/protest-the-speech-pull-your-student/
Before the school year for Boston, too.
Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 1:12AM EST (link)http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2009/08/20/late_start_may_make_mass_school_year_tight/
LA’s starts September 9th for single-track.
http://notebook.lausd.net/pls/ptl/docs/PAGE/CA_LAUSD/LAUSDNET/ABOUT_US/INFORMATION/DISTRICT_CALENDARS/09-10%2520SCHOOL%2520CALENDAR.PDF
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Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 2:24AM EST (link)FAIL
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Another miserable failure for the embattled administration (nt)
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Ice cream and cake
OccamsRazor (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 1:55AM EST (link)It appears to have been scrubbed, but the address of BO to children reminds me of an old anecdote from a pal of mine:
castro would frequently visit schools and, as an example of both his pride and fascist nature, would ask the children there if they liked ice cream and cake. Naturally, most all the lactose tolerant children would raise their hands. He’d then tell them to pray to God for ice cream and cake. After a few theatrical moments, he would then tell the children to pray to _him_, in which case he would then drop ice cream bars from the ceiling and deliver cake.
A Nudge-Nudge Wink-Wink To His Minions In The Teachers' Unions To Convert Future Voters
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 7:34AM EST (link)You have most probably had experiences with teachers – especially History Teachers – who are world-class blowhards on everything.
As a teacher with over 3 decades in the public and Catholic schools, I have met quite a few, and they tend to be left-wing.
NObama’s speech can be bland, and if he is smart, it will be bland.
But he knows that his supporters in the classrooms will turn it into a conversion therapy session to make students into future liberal Democrats.
Especially the juniors and seniors who will be able to vote next year! That I believe is the hidden agenda here. Although it is possible that somebody in the White House thought this could be another weapon to help win the Hell-th Care debate, I suspect they are looking at gaining as many votes as possible for 2010.
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White House Backs Off On School Children "Helping" The President: It WIll Not Matter
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 8:28AM EST (link)See:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/white-house-withdraws-students-help-obama/
As I wrote above, the leftists in the classroom know what to do!
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Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
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Bad idea to do this right after Labor Day,
blooch Thursday, September 3rd at 8:07AM EST (link)even if schools are in session. I know many people who take advantage of the long weekend by taking Friday and Tuesday off for one last beach trip. We do it every year. We always get excused absences from the school because my Chinese wife plays the “Cultural Experience of the Chinese Harvest Moon Festival” card, regardless of when the actual festival is. They never check on it. Same deal with Chinese New Year. I love multiculturalism.
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
Works though, doesn't it? nt
Steph C (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 8:14AM EST (link)“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Even if they did check,
blooch Thursday, September 3rd at 8:22AM EST (link)they’d be too afraid to call her on it. Only one teacher in three years has passed it on to the principal for validation, and the principal, being the King (or Queen, as it were) Rat of multicultists, signed off on it with nary a peep. Indeed, she wrote a gushing little note about it to us. lol
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
LOL. nt
Steph C (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 8:31AM EST (link)“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Why is anyone surprised by this speech?
monstermom (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 9:31AM EST (link)It’s Obama’s first public step in his ongoing effort to nationalize the public schools.
Step 1 was when the CCSSI was convened with the backing of the Obama administration and the Governors of 48 states agreed that they’d let the federal government, through the CCSSI, draft at least 85% of their states academic standards for Math and English.
Step 2 will hit in December when the national academic standards for Math and English are released.
Step 3 will be when those standards are implemented as the curriculum in every public classroom in every state which signed onto the CCSSI.
Step 4 will be when the federal government administers it’s first assessment of how well every child in public school in the US has learned the content they dictated.
Step 5 will be after the assessment results are released and the feds step in to intervene in “under-performing” schools (step 5 is just speculation on my part; steps 1-4 aren’t)
Toss Arne Duncan’s stated desire to track students performance after they leave public school and go on to college so that they can tie the students performance back to their high school teachers, and you’ve got a system whereby the federal government defines what the kids learn and when, assesses the kids to see how well they’ve learned that content, sets the standards the teachers must meet to be qualified, and the states merely deliver what the feds tell them to deliver and in the manner the feds dictate.
The speech is just a drop in the bucket.
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Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. – George Washington
School start in August in the South
dpayton (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 10:02AM EST (link)Yeah, that seems way early to this guy raised in the North, but we have graduation at the end of May, so it evens out.
Which may suggest a reason for the timing of the speech. He needs to get the more conservative South on his side. The kids up north, eh, they’re mostly indoctrinated already.
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Well he wants to take our children and make them his own
Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, September 3rd at 10:47AM EST (link)propagandists. He knows that almost all school districts here in Texas are in session and is probably knew that districts in the Areas that voted the most for him are not.
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