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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4032</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to being mean here, but from the comments I have read atributed to this &quot;gretchen,&quot;
I can say a &quot;gretchen&quot; is an idiot/troll who wanders the halls of RS poking people
Not your regular troll mind you, but a special one.
a troll who sees they have been found out as a troll, but they just don&#039;t know when to quit.
An idiot.
Could that be it 

kowalski in the same comment:
I wrote this, whent back to check on comments, and couldn&#039;t find. 
just to check my facts. 
Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to being mean here, but from the comments I have read atributed to this &#8220;gretchen,&#8221;<br />
I can say a &#8220;gretchen&#8221; is an idiot/troll who wanders the halls of RS poking people<br />
Not your regular troll mind you, but a special one.<br />
a troll who sees they have been found out as a troll, but they just don&#8217;t know when to quit.<br />
An idiot.<br />
Could that be it </p>
<p>kowalski in the same comment:<br />
I wrote this, whent back to check on comments, and couldn&#8217;t find.<br />
just to check my facts.<br />
Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4031</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chancellor, once in power, began telling the well-off business leaders what they could or couldn&#039;t do in the weak economy.

He proposed great projects to stimulate the national economy.

He expanded government for the Good of the People.

He hacked off previous good relationships, such as with the Pope.

He took traditional situations and stuck his campaign logo into them.

He promised change from the mistakes of war in the past and the Generals who &#039;betrayed us.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chancellor, once in power, began telling the well-off business leaders what they could or couldn&#8217;t do in the weak economy.</p>
<p>He proposed great projects to stimulate the national economy.</p>
<p>He expanded government for the Good of the People.</p>
<p>He hacked off previous good relationships, such as with the Pope.</p>
<p>He took traditional situations and stuck his campaign logo into them.</p>
<p>He promised change from the mistakes of war in the past and the Generals who &#8216;betrayed us.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: ocleverone</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4030</link>
		<dc:creator>ocleverone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi</description>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4029</link>
		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is not something we can dismiss that 100&#039;s of thousands (anyone have a stat on how many US children Graduate from HS and/or College) coming out with this blatant Indoctrination!?!?

For the Trolls/Mobies... Try and explain away again...
Where did Marx come from (and I don&#039;t mean the Comedic brothers team)
Why &quot;Socialist&quot; is right in the NSDAP (Nazi - english warping of the NSD sound)
NSDAP - translated - Natl Socialist German Workers Party

Only truth in his comment was the German Socialists&#039; disdain for the Russian version (Lenin/Stalin) of it... Trading one version of RULING ELITES for another is the Leftist (and always has been and will be the Leftist) notion. Leftists do not care how they obtain power only that they will be able to ensure they get to be the Ruling Elite amongst that Power. Big Government of ANY kind is NEVER a Right notion/ideal (true Conservatives anyway, as for here - there were plenty of clowns with R&#039;s that forget that when they had control and therefore we allowed it to be stripped from them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not something we can dismiss that 100&#8242;s of thousands (anyone have a stat on how many US children Graduate from HS and/or College) coming out with this blatant Indoctrination!?!?</p>
<p>For the Trolls/Mobies&#8230; Try and explain away again&#8230;<br />
Where did Marx come from (and I don&#8217;t mean the Comedic brothers team)<br />
Why &#8220;Socialist&#8221; is right in the NSDAP (Nazi &#8211; english warping of the NSD sound)<br />
NSDAP &#8211; translated &#8211; Natl Socialist German Workers Party</p>
<p>Only truth in his comment was the German Socialists&#8217; disdain for the Russian version (Lenin/Stalin) of it&#8230; Trading one version of RULING ELITES for another is the Leftist (and always has been and will be the Leftist) notion. Leftists do not care how they obtain power only that they will be able to ensure they get to be the Ruling Elite amongst that Power. Big Government of ANY kind is NEVER a Right notion/ideal (true Conservatives anyway, as for here &#8211; there were plenty of clowns with R&#8217;s that forget that when they had control and therefore we allowed it to be stripped from them).</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4028</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/2009/06/13/about-those-47-million-without-health-insurance/#comment-457&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, but you gotta read the whole thread to get full gist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/2009/06/13/about-those-47-million-without-health-insurance/#comment-457">here</a>, but you gotta read the whole thread to get full gist.</p>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4027</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or did I miss something else here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or did I miss something else here?</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4026</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>level class -- a healthy dose of liberal indoctrination set around a pea of truth and a mountain of dung.

National Socialist Party sure SOUNDS right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>level class &#8212; a healthy dose of liberal indoctrination set around a pea of truth and a mountain of dung.</p>
<p>National Socialist Party sure SOUNDS right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4025</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4024</link>
		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now he&#039;s gone.  In all that time, he made exactly three comments including this one.

How ever will we replace him and how will we fill that big empty literary space that he left behind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now he&#8217;s gone.  In all that time, he made exactly three comments including this one.</p>
<p>How ever will we replace him and how will we fill that big empty literary space that he left behind?</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4023</link>
		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just didn&#039;t want to come out and say it...  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just didn&#8217;t want to come out and say it&#8230;  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4022</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4021</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4020</link>
		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shadowin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-4019</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadowin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it incorporated elements from both left and right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the right.

Sources: Fritzsche, Peter. 1998. Germans into Nazis. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press; Eatwell, Roger, Fascism, A History, Viking/Penguin, 1996, pp.xvii-xxiv, 21, 26–31, 114–140, 352. Griffin, Roger. 2000. &quot;Revolution from the Right: Fascism,&quot; chapter in David Parker (ed.) Revolutions and the Revolutionary Tradition in the West 1560-1991, Routledge, London.

In the 1930s, Nazism was not a monolithic movement, but rather a (mainly German) combination of various ideologies and philosophies which centered around nationalism, anti-communism, traditionalism and the importance of the ethnostate.

The first three are mainstays of the right. The fourth is just racist, but you do hear it from racists who identify as conservatives in our country; usually the ones who are afraid of the &quot;browning&quot; of America. For example, John Gibson told his viewers to &quot;do your duty, make more babies&quot; when he discovered that nearly half of all children under the age of five in the United States are minorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it incorporated elements from both left and right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the right.</p>
<p>Sources: Fritzsche, Peter. 1998. Germans into Nazis. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press; Eatwell, Roger, Fascism, A History, Viking/Penguin, 1996, pp.xvii-xxiv, 21, 26–31, 114–140, 352. Griffin, Roger. 2000. &#8220;Revolution from the Right: Fascism,&#8221; chapter in David Parker (ed.) Revolutions and the Revolutionary Tradition in the West 1560-1991, Routledge, London.</p>
<p>In the 1930s, Nazism was not a monolithic movement, but rather a (mainly German) combination of various ideologies and philosophies which centered around nationalism, anti-communism, traditionalism and the importance of the ethnostate.</p>
<p>The first three are mainstays of the right. The fourth is just racist, but you do hear it from racists who identify as conservatives in our country; usually the ones who are afraid of the &#8220;browning&#8221; of America. For example, John Gibson told his viewers to &#8220;do your duty, make more babies&#8221; when he discovered that nearly half of all children under the age of five in the United States are minorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Husker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-3943</link>
		<dc:creator>Husker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think their delicate statist psyche&#039;s could deal with the trauma of reality.

We&#039;ve all seen what the sycophant media arm of this government does to someone who dares to have a differing opinion than the statist view - systematic character assassinations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think their delicate statist psyche&#8217;s could deal with the trauma of reality.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all seen what the sycophant media arm of this government does to someone who dares to have a differing opinion than the statist view &#8211; systematic character assassinations.</p>
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		<title>By: paint_it_red</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-3939</link>
		<dc:creator>paint_it_red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Painting a Nazi-sympathizer as &quot;right wing&quot; forgets that the Nazis were left wing.  I&#039;m not sure how anyone can miss that a party that advocated national socialism came from the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Painting a Nazi-sympathizer as &#8220;right wing&#8221; forgets that the Nazis were left wing.  I&#8217;m not sure how anyone can miss that a party that advocated national socialism came from the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-3938</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They did also do a memo on left-wing terrorists, but it was not the same kind of sloppy hack job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did also do a memo on left-wing terrorists, but it was not the same kind of sloppy hack job.</p>
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		<title>By: kcdude</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-3937</link>
		<dc:creator>kcdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You laid out the concepts and nailed it.  Profiling has been a cornerstone of good police and investigative work since the beginniing of the constabulary.  

It is the misuse of profiling, the concentration on areas of an individual that are not related to behavior, such as race, creed, clothing, without consideration of the individual&#039;s actions, that give a great tool a bad name.  

Every law enforcement officer worth his or her salt uses profiling everyday to determine whether or not criminal activity is afoot. 

The tripe in the DHS report that is the a perfect example of creed profiling. lWhen good folks get labeled and the press joins the in the frenzy by misidentifying people, we all lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You laid out the concepts and nailed it.  Profiling has been a cornerstone of good police and investigative work since the beginniing of the constabulary.  </p>
<p>It is the misuse of profiling, the concentration on areas of an individual that are not related to behavior, such as race, creed, clothing, without consideration of the individual&#8217;s actions, that give a great tool a bad name.  </p>
<p>Every law enforcement officer worth his or her salt uses profiling everyday to determine whether or not criminal activity is afoot. </p>
<p>The tripe in the DHS report that is the a perfect example of creed profiling. lWhen good folks get labeled and the press joins the in the frenzy by misidentifying people, we all lose.</p>
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		<title>By: toughintn</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-3936</link>
		<dc:creator>toughintn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand Washington enough to know why they made this resolution -- and with Iran on the planet, I guess it&#039;s necessary to spell it out:

http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/06/12/1005837/congress-condemns-holocaust-museum-shooting

But crime is always motivated by some kind of &quot;hate.&quot; 

James von Brunn was a despicable human being, but he would have been just as horrifying if he had targeted a school playground or a nursing home. Would we then have been including a category for hate crimes against children (an interesting subject) or senior citizens? Why didn&#039;t the resolution contain &quot;age&quot; as a protected category?

Profiling based on the &quot;potential to hate&quot; (according to a liberal definition) will always lead to stifling the free speech rights of the law-abiding -- just like gun control punishes the legal gun owner, not the criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand Washington enough to know why they made this resolution &#8212; and with Iran on the planet, I guess it&#8217;s necessary to spell it out:</p>
<p>http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/06/12/1005837/congress-condemns-holocaust-museum-shooting</p>
<p>But crime is always motivated by some kind of &#8220;hate.&#8221; </p>
<p>James von Brunn was a despicable human being, but he would have been just as horrifying if he had targeted a school playground or a nursing home. Would we then have been including a category for hate crimes against children (an interesting subject) or senior citizens? Why didn&#8217;t the resolution contain &#8220;age&#8221; as a protected category?</p>
<p>Profiling based on the &#8220;potential to hate&#8221; (according to a liberal definition) will always lead to stifling the free speech rights of the law-abiding &#8212; just like gun control punishes the legal gun owner, not the criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: DerKrieger</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/06/13/the-left-falls-in-love-with-profiling/#comment-3935</link>
		<dc:creator>DerKrieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the government continues to encroach on my liberties and reach deeper into my pockets to fund their vision of a socialist Utopia they can count me as someone who hates our government.
I&#039;m not likely to sit here, shrug my shoulders, and accept my government directed fate either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the government continues to encroach on my liberties and reach deeper into my pockets to fund their vision of a socialist Utopia they can count me as someone who hates our government.<br />
I&#8217;m not likely to sit here, shrug my shoulders, and accept my government directed fate either.</p>
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