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		<title>By: NotSoBlueStater</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3372</link>
		<dc:creator>NotSoBlueStater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A similar theme to what I&#039;ve been driving at.</description>
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		<title>By: NotSoBlueStater</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3371</link>
		<dc:creator>NotSoBlueStater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... but not credible.

I&#039;ve tried it on some folks who are pretty open-minded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; but not credible.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried it on some folks who are pretty open-minded.</p>
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		<title>By: itrytobenice</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3370</link>
		<dc:creator>itrytobenice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GreyCloak</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3369</link>
		<dc:creator>GreyCloak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Security increases are actually limited to &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; than the rate of inflation ... medicare continues to increase because &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; politicians are in bed with the doctor-hospital-insurance lobbies, and refuse to actually &lt;i&gt;audit&lt;/i&gt; any providers.

Much as I voted for and supported the Bush campaigns in 2000 and 2004, I was dismayed by a State of the Union that mentioned &quot;an 8% increase&quot; in some programs, while actual people were being subject to 0% salary increases. Placing $billions in expenditures under &quot;supplementary&quot; or &quot;emergency spending&quot; (like these were unforeseen) bills was obscene.

One RINO left ... Arlen Specter ... so there is a victory? He spent &lt;i&gt;years&lt;/i&gt; trying to solve an asbestos-litigation problem ... but John Cornyn (R-TX) shot it down in committee after &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2006&amp;cid=N00024852&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;taking over $1 million in lawyer contributions&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sorry, but there is little credibility left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Security increases are actually limited to <i>less</i> than the rate of inflation &#8230; medicare continues to increase because <i>all</i> politicians are in bed with the doctor-hospital-insurance lobbies, and refuse to actually <i>audit</i> any providers.</p>
<p>Much as I voted for and supported the Bush campaigns in 2000 and 2004, I was dismayed by a State of the Union that mentioned &#8220;an 8% increase&#8221; in some programs, while actual people were being subject to 0% salary increases. Placing $billions in expenditures under &#8220;supplementary&#8221; or &#8220;emergency spending&#8221; (like these were unforeseen) bills was obscene.</p>
<p>One RINO left &#8230; Arlen Specter &#8230; so there is a victory? He spent <i>years</i> trying to solve an asbestos-litigation problem &#8230; but John Cornyn (R-TX) shot it down in committee after <a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2006&amp;cid=N00024852" rel="nofollow">taking over $1 million in lawyer contributions</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but there is little credibility left.</p>
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		<title>By: GreyCloak</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3368</link>
		<dc:creator>GreyCloak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 05:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from mythical &quot;tax cuts for middle America&quot; proposed by &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; parties, the Democrats didn&#039;t say much about how much they might spend. Our Republicans, however, had been spending like drunken fools ... it should come as no surprise that the &quot;party of fiscal conservatism&quot; lost elections when it lost its way. &quot;A bridge to nowhere&quot; was perhaps the most egregious example, Dallying under that bridge while preaching &quot;moral fortitude&quot; didn&#039;t help, either.

Voters for Obama wanted &quot;change.&quot; Voters for Pelosi represent a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_8th_congressional_district&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;small district&lt;/a&gt; in California that includes most of San Francisco ... Pelosi &quot;bought&quot; her leadership position &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/043000/nat_043000086.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;by contributing over half a million dollars to other Democrats&lt;/a&gt; in Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from mythical &#8220;tax cuts for middle America&#8221; proposed by <i>both</i> parties, the Democrats didn&#8217;t say much about how much they might spend. Our Republicans, however, had been spending like drunken fools &#8230; it should come as no surprise that the &#8220;party of fiscal conservatism&#8221; lost elections when it lost its way. &#8220;A bridge to nowhere&#8221; was perhaps the most egregious example, Dallying under that bridge while preaching &#8220;moral fortitude&#8221; didn&#8217;t help, either.</p>
<p>Voters for Obama wanted &#8220;change.&#8221; Voters for Pelosi represent a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_8th_congressional_district" rel="nofollow">small district</a> in California that includes most of San Francisco &#8230; Pelosi &#8220;bought&#8221; her leadership position <a href="http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/043000/nat_043000086.shtml" rel="nofollow">by contributing over half a million dollars to other Democrats</a> in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: GreyCloak</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3367</link>
		<dc:creator>GreyCloak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Specter moved over for only one reason: he would have lost the primary to a more parochial Republican on issues unrelated to the economy. I wish Pat Toomey the best of luck, but Pennsylvania is unlikely to agree with the politically-contrived social issues that are more successful in Southern states.

I disagree with Specter and others on their &quot;stimulus&quot; vote, but as you point out: Republicans spent too much, too. When we lost our fiscally responsible ways, we lost the populace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specter moved over for only one reason: he would have lost the primary to a more parochial Republican on issues unrelated to the economy. I wish Pat Toomey the best of luck, but Pennsylvania is unlikely to agree with the politically-contrived social issues that are more successful in Southern states.</p>
<p>I disagree with Specter and others on their &#8220;stimulus&#8221; vote, but as you point out: Republicans spent too much, too. When we lost our fiscally responsible ways, we lost the populace.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...people who saw no real difference between the two parties and stayed home. I think that Dan&#039;s post points to how the GOP can persuade those who are not in the vote Republican or Democrat &quot;no-matter-what&quot; camps.

But your comment is typical of this inability to call a spade a spade. Just because the Democrats suck in astronomical terms does not mean that the GOP can suck a lot and then say &quot;hey, we&#039;re not as bad as them.&quot; Frankly, it seems at times like the entirety of the GOP message is &quot;Democrats are bad.&quot; I am all for pointing out how the Democrats are leading us down the road to destruction, but if the GOP does not own up to its mistakes, build credibility with the public, and offer a clear alternative (which is SMALLER government, not &quot;our&quot; type of big government), then there is seriously no point in expending time and money in supporting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;people who saw no real difference between the two parties and stayed home. I think that Dan&#8217;s post points to how the GOP can persuade those who are not in the vote Republican or Democrat &#8220;no-matter-what&#8221; camps.</p>
<p>But your comment is typical of this inability to call a spade a spade. Just because the Democrats suck in astronomical terms does not mean that the GOP can suck a lot and then say &#8220;hey, we&#8217;re not as bad as them.&#8221; Frankly, it seems at times like the entirety of the GOP message is &#8220;Democrats are bad.&#8221; I am all for pointing out how the Democrats are leading us down the road to destruction, but if the GOP does not own up to its mistakes, build credibility with the public, and offer a clear alternative (which is SMALLER government, not &#8220;our&#8221; type of big government), then there is seriously no point in expending time and money in supporting them.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3364</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3363</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And if you don&#039;t like the way we handled it last time, the local party organization meets monthly on the [insert date here].

&quot;Alternatively, you can let the Democrats keep wasting your money.  They&#039;ll be happy to.&quot;

See?  Easy enough to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And if you don&#8217;t like the way we handled it last time, the local party organization meets monthly on the [insert date here].</p>
<p>&#8220;Alternatively, you can let the Democrats keep wasting your money.  They&#8217;ll be happy to.&#8221;</p>
<p>See?  Easy enough to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3362</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh.  Yeah, they&#039;re real discriminating on spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh.  Yeah, they&#8217;re real discriminating on spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3361</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and see what happens. After they stop laughing in your face, what are you going to tell them.

This party will never become credible in the eyes of the public unless and until we repudiate the spending binge and expansion of government by the GOP during the Bush years. The budget went from $2 trillion to $3+ trillion during those years. The national debt doubled ($5 trillion to $10 trillion) during those years. You cannot, with a straight face, try to pass this off on the Democrat &#039;06-&#039;08 congress and Bill Clinton. Trust me, I agree that the crap the Democrats are shoving down our throats is maddening, but it is even more maddening to see people trying to do intellectual gymnastics to continue to defend and justify the Bush/GOP spending binge.

I was reminded today of an interesting intellectual exercise that anyone interested in, or involved in, politics should try when it comes to defining their principles. If, with the push of a button, we could eliminate the income tax, the capital gains/dividend tax, social security, medicare, medicaid, the department of education, the department of labor, the department of homeland security, , etc. would you? If not, then you have conceded that there is a higher end than limited, Constitutional government and will always lose to the side that passionately and uncompromisingly wants to grow and expand the size and scope of government indefinitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and see what happens. After they stop laughing in your face, what are you going to tell them.</p>
<p>This party will never become credible in the eyes of the public unless and until we repudiate the spending binge and expansion of government by the GOP during the Bush years. The budget went from $2 trillion to $3+ trillion during those years. The national debt doubled ($5 trillion to $10 trillion) during those years. You cannot, with a straight face, try to pass this off on the Democrat &#8217;06-&#8217;08 congress and Bill Clinton. Trust me, I agree that the crap the Democrats are shoving down our throats is maddening, but it is even more maddening to see people trying to do intellectual gymnastics to continue to defend and justify the Bush/GOP spending binge.</p>
<p>I was reminded today of an interesting intellectual exercise that anyone interested in, or involved in, politics should try when it comes to defining their principles. If, with the push of a button, we could eliminate the income tax, the capital gains/dividend tax, social security, medicare, medicaid, the department of education, the department of labor, the department of homeland security, , etc. would you? If not, then you have conceded that there is a higher end than limited, Constitutional government and will always lose to the side that passionately and uncompromisingly wants to grow and expand the size and scope of government indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: dgulla</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3360</link>
		<dc:creator>dgulla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are being too hard on us with the spending. Most of the increase was due to automatic increases in social security and medicare, democrat programs. Thus that is the Dem&#039;s fault. The increase in miliatry spending was needed because Clinton was out to lunch on foreign policy, again the Dem&#039;s fault. I will admit that we screwed up on the prescription drug benefit and SCHIP, but that is just 1 out of 3.

That being said, if we can get rid of the RINOS, we can quickly regain our credibility on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are being too hard on us with the spending. Most of the increase was due to automatic increases in social security and medicare, democrat programs. Thus that is the Dem&#8217;s fault. The increase in miliatry spending was needed because Clinton was out to lunch on foreign policy, again the Dem&#8217;s fault. I will admit that we screwed up on the prescription drug benefit and SCHIP, but that is just 1 out of 3.</p>
<p>That being said, if we can get rid of the RINOS, we can quickly regain our credibility on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle-MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle-MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Republicans were awful about spending especially from 2001 through 2006.  We blew it.  However, the Dems have been much, much worse since 2006.  Nobody believed us when we made that argument, but it is true.  If the GOP has been accused of shoplifting a piece of candy, then the Dems should be arrested for holding up a string of liquor stores.  The only problem with all of this is that is gives cover to Republican politicians to go back to their old ways if they should ever regain power, but even that wouldn&#039;t be as bad as the Dems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Republicans were awful about spending especially from 2001 through 2006.  We blew it.  However, the Dems have been much, much worse since 2006.  Nobody believed us when we made that argument, but it is true.  If the GOP has been accused of shoplifting a piece of candy, then the Dems should be arrested for holding up a string of liquor stores.  The only problem with all of this is that is gives cover to Republican politicians to go back to their old ways if they should ever regain power, but even that wouldn&#8217;t be as bad as the Dems.</p>
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		<title>By: NotSoBlueStater</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3358</link>
		<dc:creator>NotSoBlueStater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not playing any meaningful role in controlling spending while in power earlier this decade has &lt;i&gt;killed&lt;/i&gt; the Republican brand.  As a self-described FiCon, I can&#039;t look somebody in the eye and say: &quot;If you don&#039;t like these deficits, vote Republican.&quot;  It&#039;s just not credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not playing any meaningful role in controlling spending while in power earlier this decade has <i>killed</i> the Republican brand.  As a self-described FiCon, I can&#8217;t look somebody in the eye and say: &#8220;If you don&#8217;t like these deficits, vote Republican.&#8221;  It&#8217;s just not credible.</p>
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		<title>By: texas214</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3357</link>
		<dc:creator>texas214</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to steal an Obama analogy. This is the single most important and galvanizing issue to the Republican Party over the past half century. The TEA Parties are the beginning and need to be the template going into &#039;10 &amp; &#039;12. Mix this message into freedom and liberty message, to counter balance Obama&#039;s intrusion into all parts of our daily lives and you have a winner.

Whoever can best articulate that message will become the de facto leader of the GOP and create the &quot;big tent&quot; that will win back the independents and conservative leaning Dem&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to steal an Obama analogy. This is the single most important and galvanizing issue to the Republican Party over the past half century. The TEA Parties are the beginning and need to be the template going into &#8217;10 &amp; &#8217;12. Mix this message into freedom and liberty message, to counter balance Obama&#8217;s intrusion into all parts of our daily lives and you have a winner.</p>
<p>Whoever can best articulate that message will become the de facto leader of the GOP and create the &#8220;big tent&#8221; that will win back the independents and conservative leaning Dem&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon H. Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/05/why-republican-unity-on-spending-matters/#comment-3356</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon H. Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is one thing we can absolutely count on Ds to do, which we can absolutely count on the public not to like, it&#039;s to waste taxpayer money.  If we can&#039;t hold the line against ridiculous spending when we won&#039;t even get credit if it works, we are good for nothing and no one has any reason to vote for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one thing we can absolutely count on Ds to do, which we can absolutely count on the public not to like, it&#8217;s to waste taxpayer money.  If we can&#8217;t hold the line against ridiculous spending when we won&#8217;t even get credit if it works, we are good for nothing and no one has any reason to vote for us.</p>
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