Democrats have a long history of constructing their own petards on which to be later hoisted, due to their inability to consider the consequences of their actions beyond immediate partisan advantage. For a classic example of this process at work, look no further than the current proposal for a banana republic-style “Truth Commission” to conduct show trials of the outgoing Administration for the offenses of (1) acting aggressively to protect national security and then (2) losing an election.
The partisan nature of the enterprise is obvious: proponents are calling for a commission whose mandate is expressly limited to investigating Republicans, and control over which will presumably remain with the Democratic majority in Congress. (Not that a commission witch-hunting national security professionals in Democratic Administrations would be a good thing either, unless your goal is to drive good people from the field and make the ones who remain too timid to take action when the nation’s security is at risk).
Thomas Jefferson, the first Democratic president and the first president to take office after a change in partisan control, did not bring up John Adams on charges for having passed the Alien and Sedition Acts; Jefferson simply removed the offending policy and cleared those who had been wrongly convicted. Our history, and our tradition of peaceful transfers of power, might have been very different if Jefferson had handed Adams over to Napoleon on the grounds that Adams had abused civil liberties in the Quasi War with France.
David Rivkin, in his testimony today, points out that building such commissions as partisan weapons can in the long run have the same wholly forseeable yet unforseen blowback for Democrats as their creation of the Independent Counsel statute did, and then some:
[O]ne of the commission’s most dangerous effects would be to increase the likelihood of former senior U.S. government officials being prosecuted overseas, whether in the courts of foreign countries or before international tribunals. The nature of the offenses supposedly at issue vastly increases the possibility of the commission’s work having the effect of priming politicized foreign prosecutions. However erroneously, senior Bush Administration officials have been the subject of accusations that implicate not only U.S. criminal statutes but also international law, and which are arguably subject to claims of “universal jurisdiction” by foreign states. Foreign prosecutors could seize upon a supposedly “advisory” determination that criminal conduct occurred – especially if it is the only “authoritative” statement on the subject by an official U.S. body – as a ready pretext for their bringing charges against individual former U.S. officials. They might argue that the mere fact that the commission was established shows that grave crimes must have occurred and interpret the United States’ non-prosecution of the individuals concerned as a mere technicality to be repaired by their own broad assertions of jurisdiction. Indeed, all of these circumstances appear to be tailor-made to support the invocation of universal jurisdiction by foreign judicial bodies and its utilization of this jurisdiction as the basis to launch prosecutions of Bush Administration officials. Doubtless, many commission advocates – who also have been among the most vociferous Bush Administration critics throughout the war on terror – hope for exactly this result.
They should think twice. Attempting to prosecute your political opponents at home, or facilitating their prosecution abroad, is like pouring acid on the machinery of democracy. The late and unlamented Independent Counsel Statute repeatedly showed that once this Pandora’s Box is opened, its contents can wreak havoc equally across the political and party spectrum. Indeed, if al Qaeda is no more than a criminal conspiracy – as some have claimed for many years – then President Obama’s charge sheet has already been started. By authorizing continued Predator missile attacks against al Qaeda’s leadership in Afghanistan and Pakistan, he has directly targeted those “civilians” with deadly force. That is a war crime.
President Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress are entitled to revise and reject any or all of the Bush Administration’s policies. No one, however, is entitled to hound their political opponents with criminal prosecution – whether directly or through the device of a politically unaccountable commission. Those who support such efforts now may someday regret the precedent it sets. Claims that the Bush Administration abused presidential powers have been thoroughly reviewed by several congressional committees. The Justice Department is fully capable of considering whether any criminal charges are appropriate.
Let me close by pointing out a great, and perhaps unintended irony. Much of the anger about the Bush Administration’s war on terror policies, has been focused on its treatment of captured alien enemy combatants and especially its rendition policy. In an effort to “investigate” these matters, the proponents of the commission appear to be giving short shrift to the civil liberties of Americans, outsourcing law enforcement functions to private entities and even to be practicing a soft form of rendition, in that they are virtually inviting foreign courts to go after American citizens.
Democrats who don’t want to see members of Barack Obama’s Administration dragged through a similar process – as they surely will be – should heed Rivkin’s words. Will they listen now? Or will they wait for their own to be in the dock before they discover that they have created a constitutional crisis that threatens the process of peaceful transitions of power that have been one of America’s most treasured legacies since 1801?
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Liberals operate under two core rules as regards this kind of thing...
USNJIMRET (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 11:34AM EST (link)1. They will always remain in power, or be in a position to obstruct problems until they regain power.
2. The opposition, should they ever gain power, won’t do to them what they did.
Much like the idea that people will continue to buy just as much of a newly overtaxed thing as before any increase in tax, the liberal cannot/will not contemplate the obvious historical fallacy of their core beliefs.
It is inconceivable to Democrats that anyone else will be in power
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 11:35AM EST (link)ever again. Unfortunately, if this group of revolutionaries succeeds, it may be true this time. That is why we MUST make them fail.
In Vino Veritas
Tough call
Snarxons_Law Wednesday, March 4th at 11:47AM EST (link)While I’m certainly against partisan witch-hunts, I do believe in our Constitution, and I feel like the Faux-Conservative Bush crowd walked all over it.
Why let them tar true Conservatives with their disrespect for America’s most important document?
Because the difference is irrelevant
mikefisk (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 11:51AM EST (link)To those currently in power, the members of the opposition aren’t delineated along “good conservative” and “bad conservative” lines. They’re all labeled “evil” and targeted accordingly.
Besides, those same alleged Constitutional abuses continue apace with the Obama administration… just now those watchdog groups suddenly don’t have much to say about them. After all, the watchdog bit their old master, now they hope their new one will reward them by scratching their belly or something (either by hiring them to government jobs or by accomplishing a pet cause for them, like increased government regulatory authority, legalizing pot and/or gay marriage, and allowing unfettered state-funded access to abortion services).
“Once within the maw of Leviathan, degree of digestion is irrelevant.” – Michael Fisk
9.25, -4.77
Principles?
Snarxons_Law Wednesday, March 4th at 11:58AM EST (link)Isn’t respect for the Constitution at the top of the list?
Plus, it could be a good way to cut Bush loose and reclaim the high ground.
High ground?
Moriah (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:22PM EST (link)I’m a liberal, I was not fond of GWB’s policies, and I do think he showed a disrespect for the Constitution both in word (even if it was in an off-the-cuff comment) and deed (warrantless wiretaps).
But… competing for “moral high ground” does not do much for this country. Nor would it do much good for the Republican party, in my opinion.
…. Such a statement also immediately assumes that GWB did not have moral “high ground” anyway, and I’m pretty sure most people on this site believe the opposite. I always thought the consensus was that even if some disagree about methodology that GWB’s intent was to keep the country safe and that was all the “high ground” that was needed — at least here.
Blessings,
Moriah
Correct me if I am wrong, but,
barry915barry (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:59PM EST (link)were not the warrantless wiretaps fruled permissible just a few weeks back?
I believe the ruling was from August 2008....
Moriah (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:16PM EST (link)I think the redacted text of the ruling was released in January.
But I may be wrong. Just as what I say is just my opinion. I still think that either side trying to struggle for moral “high ground” puts the focus on appearances and perceptions instead of on concrete achievements for this country.
I respect a person a lot more for doing what they think is right, even if it’s something I disagree with, than for doing what they think is popular.
Blessings,
Moriah
Is there something wrong
Snarxons_Law Wednesday, March 4th at 2:09PM EST (link)with getting a practical political benefit from doing the right thing based on principle?
You’re not saying that two rights make a wrong, are you?
if you want to head the nation
streiff (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:47PM EST (link)towards the status of a third world crap hole, putting aside Obama’s economic policies for the time being, this is the way to start it. I mean it has worked out real well in Pakistan and other places where this happens.
All this ensures is that each administration will prosecute its predecessor. Do you think it would have been appropriate to investigate the Clinton Administration for defiling the Constitution just for grins?
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Oh, stop complaining.
coznola Wednesday, March 4th at 12:17PM EST (link)If there are lawless people in our government whose broken the law then they need to be investigated and go to jail. Stop complaining about the fact if they are repub or democrat because it matters not. All crooks need to be in jail. Those who don’t think carl rove need to be jailed has a screw loose.
Perhaps you would like to actually post a link or defend your accusations
barry915barry (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:27PM EST (link)against Mr. Rove. Please be specific to what you are referring, Coznola.
more like Kosnola...
speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:30PM EST (link)If you lined up Dem crooks end to end….the resulting line would Dwarf republicans line of same…
more later
Speaking of loose screws....n/t
janis (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:28PM EST (link).
Looks like a live one Janis! nt
barry915barry (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:29PM EST (link)Looks like there are a few.
Moriah (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:30PM EST (link)Wonder what got linked today….
Blessings,
Moriah
"live one"? Only in the sense that biological processes may be occurring.
janis (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:34PM EST (link)Mostly decomposition from the sound of it.
Well, he only lived long enough to do his quick driveby hit.
barry915barry (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:42PM EST (link)He is officially dead and decomposing now.
Another government school genius heard from.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:29PM EST (link)‘Course I’m sure the spelling and syntax are “right for him.”
In Vino Veritas
Don't make fun, Achance
aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 6:31PM EST (link)He’s speaking “his [grammatical] truth”, which is neither more or less valid than our own.
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The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
How about a "truth commission" relating to the looting of Freddie/Fannie?
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:58PM EST (link)Most of us know who was behind the real estate market bust but how about some hearings to shed light on the cockroaches for the general public to see?
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Oh!! You mean something that can be declared purely Partisan?
USNJIMRET (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:13PM EST (link)If only because almost ALL of the players were/are Democrats?
How utterly political of you!!
[/sarcasm]
The is the nuclear option for the two party system
civil truth (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:51PM EST (link)Once you start prosecuting your political opponents who lost an election, the outcome is partisan war to the death.
I guess Obama’s hope and change to bring the country together is the same what Hugo Chavez’s concept of post-partisanship: allow only one voice to speak (Obama’s) and crminalize all opposition as enemies of the state .
This could lead to a much bloodshed.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
http://www.gmsplace.com/
Fresh air and prosecution are different things
Snarxons_Law Wednesday, March 4th at 2:22PM EST (link)Otherwise, what stops Obama and the Dems from taking advantage of the Bush DOJ’s subversion of our liberties?
Do you really want The One tapping your phone without a warrant based on Bush’s ‘interpretation’ of the Constitution?
I’d rather see the Bush miscreants called out and their ‘interpretations’ repudiated by EVERYONE so that it doesn’t happen again!
personally
streiff (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:28PM EST (link)my phone was never tapped because I didn’t communicate with known terrorists abroad. YMMV.
So I didn’t fear Bush, and I certainly don’t fear Obama, like Bush, using the same tactic against terrorists that he could use against drug kingpins. In fact, I hope against hope that he will do so.
The venue for addressing this type of thing exists in our nation and has existed since Marbury v Madison. We don’t do show trials. That is not in our tradition.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
R U sure?
Snarxons_Law Wednesday, March 4th at 2:34PM EST (link)Seems once we get into freestyle interpretations that ANYBODY can be labeled a terrorist.
You trusted Bush – do you trust Obama?
really?
streiff (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:38PM EST (link)maybe with enough psychotropic drugs but to date we’ve seen no evidence of that.
We are a nation of laws. I wasn’t sent to the gulags under Clinton and I won’t be sent there under Obama. So you can try to exercise some other rubes with the fear mongering.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Snarxons_whatever, you've become tiresome.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 2:35PM EST (link)Few here view PRESIDENT Bush or his staff as miscreants, most agree with his interpretation of the Constitution regarding wiretaps of known terrorists calling from abroad and the only people in America that we want to repudicate is mind-numbed lefties, BHO worshippers, and their media running dogs.
In Vino Veritas
Pick your poison ...
Snarxons_Law Wednesday, March 4th at 2:39PM EST (link)n/t
Irresponsible and downright dangerous
GarWil Wednesday, March 4th at 2:12PM EST (link)This is the same kind of irresponsible congressional chest-thumping intimidation that led to the kind of CIA that was afraid to do the things that would have been necessary to stop 9/11.
It’s a replay of the Frank Church hearings — only this time the focus will be on other areas of government — serving to make THESE people think twice before doing anything that might someday conceivably get them hauled before some commission. Doing what needs to be done to protect the country? Screw that.
Is it any wonder why every enemy of this country was cheering for an Obama victory? Too bad that wasn’t more of a clue to more people.
Will it backfire if they do it?
Return to Revolution (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 5:26PM EST (link)It should, but with the media in all out acitivism mode and enough people with Bush Derangement Syndrome, it might not.
Those are both things that didn’t exist with Clinton.
Out of hand Constitutional fetishist