The nation awakens today to a grim day (although less grim than it might have been, as the late Senate races come in and the prognosis for a decent-sized GOP resistance looks much better). But America has endured worse. Here’s 12 ways I recommend that conservatives and Republicans prepare to face the next four years under President Obama (yeah, get used to that one):
(1) Oppose Obama, Not America: The absolute wrong way to react to life in the minority is … well, what we saw from too many people on the Left the past 8 years: calling everyone from the President on down to individual soldiers and Marines war criminals, parroting the propaganda of our enemies, exposing classified national security secrets on the front pages of the newspapers, and generally doing whatever possible to stymie the national defense and convince the nation and the world that America is the bad guy. We’re better than that. When Obama fails to act to defend America and its interests and allies, or violates the basic common-sense principles of national security and foreign policy, we will of course be unsparing in our criticism. But we should not emulate the Left; indeed, the day may even come when Obama needs defending from the Left for doing what needs to be done, and we certainly want to encourage him to take actions that provoke that reaction.
(2) No Chicken-Hawking: This is a corollary of #1: given his shaky draft history, Bill Clinton at times appeared afraid of criticism over deploying the military on grounds that he didn’t serve. We should never make Obama feel that he should blanch at defending the nation simply because he never wore the uniform (fortunately, on that score, Obama’s defining personality trait is hubris). We’ve had civilian leadership before, we’ll have it again.
(3) Don’t Question The Verdict: Was there voter fraud in yesterday’s election? Were there other shenanigans both legal and illegal? I’m sure there were, and others who follow those stories will no doubt be expanding on them in the weeks to come. Chronicling specific instances of misconduct is an important service – to expose the miscreants and their connections to the Obama campaign, to punish and deter and provide a basis for someday preventing a recurrence (although don’t expect the Obama era to see anything but massive resistance to taking even the most tepid steps against voter fraud). And likewise, of course, there is still plenty more to be examined in Obama’s fundraising, to say nothing of the untruths he told to get elected and the really shameful behavior of the media.
But fundamentally, he got more votes where it mattered and he won the race. Supporters of Gore and Kerry who refused to accept those realities in 2000 and 2004 ended up doing a lot of lasting damage to public confidence in our electoral system. The step of challenging the results of an election is a grave one not to be taken without serious evidence. Let’s not repeat their mistakes with conspiracy theories.
(4) Don’t Blame The Voters: Yes, it’s tempting to go off into the place where Democrats were fuming about “Jesusland” four years ago. And yes, Obama got a lot of votes for bad reasons or from vacuous people. Hey, there are a lot of stupid people in the world, and in America, and a fair number of them vote – they vote when we win, they vote when we lose. Winston Churchill was a great believer in democracy as the least-worst system of government, but he’s also the guy who once said that the best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
For all that, it’s counterproductive to lose faith in the collective wisdom of the American voting public over the long term. Even when the public makes a mistake, it usually has a reason – and while electing Obama will be clearly shown over time to have been a mistake, the GOP also has some serious introspection to do about how we let things come to the point of giving the public a reason to do what it did. And we need to retain faith that rebuilding our party around the principles that have succeeded in the past, and adapting those principles for the world of the next decade, will win them back.
(5) Don’t Get Mad, Get Even: Yes, it’s a cliche, but unfocused rage goes bad places. There’s a lot of work to do to prepare the ground for the GOP to come back as it did in 1994, 1980, and 1966-68. The Left drew first blood on the Bush second term only a few weeks after the election, with the Bernard Kerik nomination. We’ll have a target-rich environment to work with as the kind of urban machine politics the Democrats have made famous comes to the White House, and we’ll have fun doing it.
(6) We Play For 2010, Not 2012: I’ll be writing up shortly my early thoughts about the GOP presidential field in 2012, and plenty of others will too. Do it, get it out of your system, come to the aid of the people who will make up future presidential fields, but whatever you do, don’t get into primary-season, my-gal/guy-or-the-highway mode again until we are through the 2010 elections. There will be a need in the party’s future for Palin and Jindal and Sanford and Huck and Mitt and all the rest; we’re all in this together.
(7) Prioritize: More on this later, but Obama and the Congressional Democrats are going to have a long list of issues they want to press, and we can’t stop all of them. The GOP needs to divide issues into four buckets:
- a. Things we are prepared to go to the mat to stop
- b. Things we want to force the Democrats to commit themselves to so we can take the dispute to the voters
- c. Things, however modest, we actually think we can accomplish even with the Democrats in power
- d. Things we want to propose as positive agenda items even knowing they’ll go nowhere, to lay out our own roadmap for the future.
(8) Watch Your Budget: We’re all going to have to prepare for tougher economic times, plus the burden of Obama’s tax hikes. Don’t overextend your own finances.
(9) Grow A Thick Hide and Get Your Taxes in Order: Joe Wurtzelbacher won’t be the last Obama critic to feel the weight of government intrusion for standing up to Obama. David Freddoso and Stanley Kurtz won’t be the last conservative journalists to have their investigations stonewalled and campaigns organized to drive them off the radio. And get used to being called a racist, as everyone who gets in Obama’s way is, sooner or later. Understand now that you will need to stomach all that and more, and you won’t get rattled.
(10) Buy More Life Insurance: Well, at least if, like me, you live or work in a city that’s a top terrorist target, and have roots too deep to leave. Our risk tolerance will have to go up.
(11) Pray: Well, this one speaks for itself. Pray especially for the unborn.
(12) Get On Living: Life is short and there’s more to it than politics. We’ll need committed activists, and as a whole our movement will need to be relentless – but thinking about politics too much is unhealthy, especially when you have a long wait ahead for any progress. For my part, starting tomorrow I’ll be back to doing more baseball blogging. Take a break whenever you need one, spend more time with your family. And teach your kids that every minute of life is worth it even when the world seems to have gone mad. Many generations before us have done so in tougher times than these.
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Good post (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:52AM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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all very sound reasoning's, good stuff
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:56AM EST (link)recommended
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
all very sound reasoning's, good stuff
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:56AM EST (link)recommended
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
#13: GET OFF THE DOLE, YOU PARASITE
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:59AM EST (link)The fundamental dynamic that liberals will achieve in this election is to encourage more people from all walks of life to get on the government dole, in every way they can do it.
They’ll do it on television.
They’ll do it on the radio, as they already do here in Massachusetts.
They’ll do it in the school system.
They’ll do it in the Universities.
They’ll do it in the Chambers of Commerce.
Here in Massachusetts, you can tune your radio to FM stations and listen to taxpayer-funded advertisments advising non-taxpayers to get on the government dole * even if they think they earn too much to qualify. *
This state is going to become the model for the rest of the country under this Congress and Administration. Getting on the government dole is socially acceptable, even a badge of honor in Massachusetts, and that is going to be the New America.
When you live in a state that just legalized marijuana possession despite the overwhelming advice of law enforcement in MA, and you know how much drug treatment costs, you understand the dynamic.
Also, here’s #14:
STOP GAMBLING. The only reason for the vast expansion of gambling in America is to fund the state. You’re taking the money you should be putting in the bank and handing it over to the government succubus, and it will never stop sucking. The libertarians are WRONG about this issue.
Republicans are going to have to make it a matter of actually SHAMING people for not saving money, taking leisure drugs, gambling, and going on the dole.
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yeah, it all sounds reasonable...
davidingeorgia Wednesday, November 5th at 10:02AM EST (link)…and a lot of it is good advice…
but, a lot of it also sounds like the sort of stuff that got us into this mess (the Obama presidency, huge Dem majorities) in the first place…be nice, play by the rules, etc. etc. no matter how far over the line the other side goes…you get past a certain point (and I’m afraid we’re already well past it), and all the honorable, boyscout sounding stuff just serves to reaffirm you position as a permanent minority…I wish it were otherwise, but I just do not see it. I don’t see the bunch who is going to run the gov’t for the next 2+ years allowing the opportunity for these sorts of tactics to work.
Good one, Dan
Bill S (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:04AM EST (link)The item that I’d “asterisk” a bit is item 4). I would say “Don’t blame” period. Placing blame is somewhat counterproductive. If you WERE to place blame, I’m afraid the voters are the only place to go – they’re the ones that elected Prez-Elect Obama. I suppose you could go down the path we’ve been down for the last six months or more, where we accuse Obama & co. of being liars, cheats, etc. … but again, that’s now irrelevant.
Your statement the GOP also has some serious introspection to do about how we let things come to the point of giving the public a reason to do what it did. is really the key. Go-forward strategy is the key.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
awesome post...
HsvConservative Wednesday, November 5th at 10:06AM EST (link)Need to do a lot of #11 and #12 right now, this has worn me down, must recharge and refocus on the rest later.
But I would be remiss if I did not say that I and my family would not have been nearly as well informed without Redstate!
Dan...
tsquare (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:07AM EST (link)You are a better person than I.
Speaking for just me… I intend, starting today, to give back all the vitriol that I (we) have received from the left these past 8 years. I will give Obama the same ‘grace’ given to George Bush.
None.
8 years ago they started on Bush the very night of the election… and much more the day after. This isn’t over it’s just starting, here and now… today. Today and the next 8 years. No quarter was ever given, none will be given now.
Take the fight to the enemy, people.
Outstanding
BigGator5 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:07AM EST (link)Outstanding. This will be sent to my email list.
Educated (About The Issues Facing Us Today), Dedicated (To Making A Difference), And Highly Motivated (To Getting Things Done)

And it's not going to be easy
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:09AM EST (link)Because under this Administration, living according to these rules is going to seem UNFAIR. You’re going to have an increasing amount of your income taken away from you in taxes, and you’re going to eschew the services and giveaways. In other words, you’re not going to get to party under these new rules, and you’re going to pay for the people who will.
But if you want to save this Party and this Country, you’re going to have to live your life a different way and be proud of it.
True Conservatives and Republicans are going to have to be a lot stronger than they have been in the past four years: they’re going to have to walk the walk and be FRUGAL — not as a matter of government policy, because that’s not going to happen — but in the way they live their lives.
Tighten your belts and throw the luxuries overboard. Drive cheap cars to work and on your trips. Shop at discount stores. Home-school your kids. Be cheap. Go hunting — yes, hunting — for your food. Buy a gun and keep one for that purpose. Don’t take extravagant vacations. Live frugally and put that money into savings. Abandon your pretensions and live more honestly. Go to church and if you want to donate money, donate it through your place of worship.
People might think this sounds like being the New Puritans. Well, it does, because it really means that.
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not really big winners here kowalski
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:10AM EST (link)We are about to be inundated with many radical far left laws and all you can think of is attacking marijuana and gambling.
Talk about focusing on the little things.
Whether you like it or not there is a pretty big bunch of Americans of all stripes who don’t want busybodies telling them how to live their lives when it has no direct effect on others.
These are not big winners in the political world, you are welcome to give them whatever priority you want. But most of us will concentrate on things like taxes, business regulation, free speech, a strong defense, and the right to life.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Hey, I did not say take this lying down
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:13AM EST (link)We can take the fight to Obama on many fronts. I’m just suggesting a few that are counterproductive or bad for the country. Believe me, I’m not counseling “let’s all be nice and bipartisan here.”
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
we don't have to be nice guys, only sane ones
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:13AM EST (link)I am all for attack, attack, attack, but only after we have something positive to offer. That is why we need the internal debate to discover what are the basic ideas we are prepared to go to the mat for and offer those to the American people after the inevitable failure of the Obama administration.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
One more rule
hunter (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:13AM EST (link)Play to win. Bring brass knuckles to a boxing match.
Bring a gun to a knife fight.
Bring the ability to persuade and to define the oppo to a debate.
Make sure our votes get counted and theirs don’t.
Never ever ever toss a Republican under the bus becasue democrats tell us he or she is bad.
What the people fo Alaska did in re-electing Ted, knowing he is giong to resign, was exactly the right thing to do.
No more hatfields or DeLays, where we allow the tender feelings of our democrat overlords manipulate us into killing our own.
And when the next demcorat looting of a major public entity occurs, and it will, make sure there is no doubt who the thieves are in clear, plain language even a journalist can understand.
And when Obama says stuff, we need to make sure we find out about it something like real time, not months and months later.
hunter
Fantastic post, Dan.
ContraMundum Wednesday, November 5th at 10:17AM EST (link)You have read my mind.
Life goes on, and as conservatives we must maintain a level of maturity, civility, responsibility, and optimism.
Working in the heart of NYC I have grown accustomed to the “stranger in a strange land” mindset. Most of the good people I work with hold views that are diametrically opposed to mine. Obama’s win will have them dancing in the clouds for weeks to come. …But where they openly mocked my beliefs during these last 8 years I will not return the favor.
Conservatives need to regroup. Republicans need to decide where they stand. We have seen the results of the much heralded moderate Republican, and now we need to return to first principles.
We need new, fresh, clear voices that will sell conservative ideas to an intellectually lazy populace with style, grace, and logic.
We need faces that have not been lurking in the halls of Washington for decades. Palin, Jindal, and hell, even Joe the plummer are a good start.
Life rolls on, and the future is only as bright as we make it.
Thanks for the post.
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“It must not be supposed that folly is as powerful as truth,
just because it can, if it likes, shout louder and longer than truth.”
–Augustine
great post, Dan
Brian Johnson (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:22AM EST (link)I wish I could say that I’m able to move on from last night, but with Obama taking the White House, my senator Dole out, and Bev Perdue my governor elect, I’m having a hard time seeing a silver lining. Fortunately, I know that America, and more importantly God are both greater than a man and his party, so the funk will be short lived while, as Erick suggested, we take a step back and recoup. We live to fight another day, and the GOP has a bright future if it takes the time to examine itself and allow the party to get back to its Conservative roots and to allow the Conservatives to step up and move the party forward. We’ve seen a bright spot in Jindal and Palin and several others and I’m excited!
The vengeful, spiteful, human side of me wants to see exactly what we fear happen so we can say “See, I told you so”….but the side of me that loves God and loves my country cringes at the thought of it being driven into the ground wins out, and so I pray for Obama in his new role, for our government, for our judges and resign myself to the fact that God, in His infinite wisdom has allowed this to happen for a reason, and His Ways are higher than my ways.
Thank you RedState for all you’ve done these past years. I am excited and proud to be a part of such a great community.
Brian
Yes.
hunter (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:23AM EST (link)The One is an empty suit charlatan.
I will enjoy pointing this out.
I will work to find Republicans who can take back America, district by district, Senate seat by Senate seat.
hunter
Thanks Dan...
Red_Wing (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:23AM EST (link)…I suppose dressing in all black is taking it a little too far…
“Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself”. ~M. Friedman
One good way
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:29AM EST (link)One good way people can save a lot of money is to cut back on their cable television services. Go back to Basic Cable or Basic Satellite and eliminate the scumbag channels. Don’t spend any money going to movies — don’t fund Hollywood. Cancel your newspaper subscriptions, also. If you have to have one, subscribe to the Wall Street Journal. Do what the leftists do if you want to read books — sit in a Barnes & Noble and read them without buying them unless you really, really want them. Cut the publishing industry’s nuts off, to paraphrase Jesse Jackson.
Use the cheapest online services you can find if you have to have the Internet.
Turn your thermostat down in the winter and up in the summer. Wear more clothes or less, and get healthy. Quit smoking if you do.
I could go on, but I am going to personally do all of these things, and I’m going to make an example of myself doing them.
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And, of course,
Commodore Perry (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:29AM EST (link)DONT GIVE UP THE SHIP !!!!!
DONT GIVE UP THE SHIP
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Gambling and Drugs
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:36AM EST (link)Gambling and drugs are the oldest trick in the book for destroying a society. The British did it to the Chinese with Opium, and the liberals are doing it to Americans now. If you want to smoke dope, get lost. Don’t whine to me about your “freedom to get stoned.”
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And I'm still talking about all those things
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:39AM EST (link)But if Republicans are going to try to survive in an age of decline and decadence, they’re going to have to walk the walk. The people in Congress are going to do what they want: there’s nothing stopping them.
The only thing we can do is live our lives differently and wait until the rot they’re creating becomes unsustainable.
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For the first time in my adult life...
azaeroprof (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:40AM EST (link)I am NOT proud of my country!
Great post
PoliticalGhost (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:42AM EST (link)And it’s time to get true conservatives to lead the conservative party. We can no longer be willing to compromise on the important issues and there should be no rolling over in the spirit of “bipartisanship.” Because somehow bipartisanship always comes out looking pretty liberal.
well...
tir (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:45AM EST (link)Good list, but I don’t even think I’m capable of doing #4.
I DO blame the voters. And I don’t know what it will take for me to regain my faith in 1/2 of the American public. Especially friends and relatives who are generally thoughtful and conservative, yet who went against all their stated values to vote for someone because of offered fluffy platitutes.
It’s the voters, and I blame them.
I’m a sad monster this morning.
Great words of wisdom
Liz Wednesday, November 5th at 10:46AM EST (link)I completely agree: we Republicans must be classy about this. I was volunteering in CT for Shays and I have to say, it is bleak here today, as it was last night. But we must keep our heads high, chins up, and show liberals how to lose with grace. And of course, plan for 2010- once we are all able to think again, that is. Again, thanks for this, and thanks to RedState in general for being a place for Republicans to gather and for being a beacon of truth in this last year.
That's too bad
Hooah_Mac (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:46AM EST (link)Regardless of what happened last night, this is still a country to be proud of. It will remain great as long as we fight.
-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else
"Get Even" is right!
SeriousLaff (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:47AM EST (link)I won’t pay higher taxes. I won’t sell my house. I won’t take the kids out of school. Those who made my tax bill higher will pay them. You can too!
Have employees? Let one go. The one who loved Obama. Tell them Obama needs the money.
Go to church” The Methodists and others (especially those associated with the United Church of Christ) have been openly supporting Obama. Let them know that your contribution will be less because Obama wants to decide how to spend it.
Tell the local eating establishment that you go to often (the one promoting Obama) that you won’t be there much anymore. Have to save money for Obama’s tax bill.
Voters should see first hand how their voting decisions count.
Communism's not dead - it's just been playing possum
Republicanuck (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:49AM EST (link)I came across this quote from the 1963 Congressional Record on obamacrimes.com, and while most of what is posted there is fodder for conspiracy theorists, this might give some pause for reflection:
Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,”
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
Do away with all loyalty oaths.
Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
Gain control of all student newspapers.
Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
Internationalize the Panama Canal.
Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
No Need
LAWizard (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:49AM EST (link)There’s really no need to go vitriol as you put it. Obama’s supporters seriously think he’s going to fill their gas tank and pay their mortgage. Let Him and them fall back to reality on their own accord. It’ll be hard and painful.
I intend to enjoy it.
5 (nt)
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
2009 Virginia Statewide Elections
ddstrain (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:52AM EST (link)To anyone out there in the Commonwealth. We do have statewide elections for Governor, Lt. Governor, Attorney General and the House of Delegates coming up in 2009.
Also, Fairfax County will have a special election sometime soon (Jan 2009?) for Chairman of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors to replace Gerry Connelly (D), who won last night to succeed Tom Davis (R) in VA-11.
Turn the tide. The battle continues.
News From Russia
jcheney Wednesday, November 5th at 10:57AM EST (link)Apparently, this press released was delayed until Obama was elected.
Biden predicted Obama would be tested in the first 6 months. Who knew it would be the first 6 hours.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,447204,00.html
They aren't winners
MikeO Wednesday, November 5th at 10:58AM EST (link)Gambling and drugs are not winners for the good guys, but they are surefire strategies for advancing the will of the bad guys.
These particular vices foster dependency among the citizenry, and the net result of liberalization is expansion of the constituency for whom voting for bread and circuses has no downside.
Crusading against gambling and drugs will gain us no points, but in the zero-sum game of the culture wars, liberalization ultimately means more wards of the state, guaranteed bought votes, and a lock on power for the collectivists.
Russianism, With Or Without Communism
Skanderbeg (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:58AM EST (link)With or without communism, the Russian bear is already roaring to life today for some reason (what could it be??). Go visit the RedHot section….
sure you think you have the moral high ground here but
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:59AM EST (link)you don’t. you see the problem is you are just like the liberals. You say you believe in freedom and liberty, but you really don’t trust it in other people.
Like I said, these are not winning issues anymore than temperance and prohibition would be. We have a loot more important things to struggle against.
IF you are in the fight for individual rights and responsibility I will be with you.
If you are for more pettyfogging rules, more government control of our lives, and more nanny state big brotherism, I will be AGAINST you. So pick your battles.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
This quote comes to mind
Finrod (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:01AM EST (link)Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. — H. L. Mencken
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
I've thought about moving to NC
JoeG Wednesday, November 5th at 11:01AM EST (link)But not now – you’ve gone all lib. What the heck happened there?
Yeah, how are they going to pay for it with oil at less than $60/bbl?
Next93 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:02AM EST (link)The word of the Russian government carries exactly as much weight as the cost of a barrel of oil. Unless they’re planning on making these missiles out of cardboard, they don’t have the money to pay for them (not if they plan to keep making payments to thier mafia buddies).
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
How soon can we start talking about impeachment?
Next93 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:04AM EST (link)Now that the media hangover is about to begin, it’s only a matter of time before the MSM “notices” the complaints about illegal fund raising by the Obama campaign.
So how soon before we start calling for an independent investigator and possible impeachment charges for campaign finance violations?
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
This is a TOP 3 All time diary...Dan you rule!
speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:06AM EST (link)n/p
Will Capitalism Survive
bert2008 Wednesday, November 5th at 11:06AM EST (link)I’m fearful Obama will chip away a capitalism over the next 8 years to the point that we will look more like China than the US. You can expect more of our liberties to be taken from us for the good of the dependant class. He’s only 47. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an effort to change the constitution to allow for a third term; think Russia. I’m 62 years old. I don’t think I’ll be around to see the end of the troubles this nation will be facing.
Obama is not my President
Lincoln Adams Wednesday, November 5th at 11:08AM EST (link)I will oppose Obama AND the 60 million+ morons who voted for him. These are not my countrymen. They are traitors of the worst sort and elected a man who is anathema to everything our country once stood for. They might as well have elected Fidel Castro.
Now we have to hope the next few years will get so bad that it will shake enough Obamabots out of their daze when they finally realize the horrific mistake they’ve made.
oh! you mean the way
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:09AM EST (link)that our War on drugs has done wonders to clean up all the dependency in this country, or maybe the way the war on drugs has caused government power to lessen.
Or maybe the way that zero tolerance polices have done such wonders in making our schools good, and safe?
I am not calling for any sort of wild liberalization, but I am calling for sane policies.
Platitudes and cliches are a poor substitute for a sane examination of all the options.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Resist Obama bumper sticker
Kevin Groenhagen (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:09AM EST (link)I have slightly modified the Obama campaign logo and made a “Resist Obama” bumper sticker. I have uploaded the artwork at http://www.sinsofthehusband.com/obamasticker.jpg
Please feel free to share it with others. There are online companies that will print a single sticker for you for about $5.00 (including shipping).
I am not proud
youthgrunt (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:20AM EST (link)of what my country did last night. I am not proud that my country does not seem to revere age and experience.
But I am proud of my country. I am proud that my country is generally color blind. I am proud that my country can elect a first (or maybe zeroth) generation immigrant. I am proud that we are still the home of the free and the land of the brave.
And I am proud that my country can make a mistake as massive as what we did yesterday and we will have the chance beginning in two years to recover from that choice.
Sorry but as long as your passport says USA Obama is your president...
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:20AM EST (link)and the people who voted for him are your countrymen. This is not the time to act like a child. This is the time to act like an adult.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Some more advice
Hermes (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:22AM EST (link)Knowledge is power, ladies and gentlemen. I have no doubt that the majority of readers and contributors here are only too aware of this maxim, however the general population is sadly deficient.
As some added suggestions to Dan’s outstanding list, please consider the following:
Pick up a copy of the United States Constitution. They are readily available from many sources and you can always resort to Barnes and Noble or Borders if need be, where it may be found for $5.00 or less. Read it until you can quote it from memory. As a corollary to this point, I would also recommend picking up a copy of the Federalist Papers. My rather worn copy includes some nice commentary and cost me less than 10 dollars. Granted that was a decade and a half ago…
Pick up a copy of Barry Goldwater’s Conscience of a Conservative. My newest copy is a reprint of the Regnery edition published in 1990. Also less than $5.00 when you shop around. This is THE Republican playbook. Stray from it at your own risk.
Read, read, read. The next two years are going to feature a lot of media coverage on topics that aren’t exactly uplifting to the conservative spirit. Take this time to tune out the MSM, Oprah and whomever else and pick up some solid conservative authors. Or, heck, go back to the fundamentals: Aquinas, Aristotle, Plato, Burke, de Maistre, Chesterton, Belloc, Lewis, etc.
Related to point 3, I highly recommned that anyone with the time and means head back to school. Finish any degree(s) that you may have started in the past. Start (and finish) a new one if you’d like. There have been many rumblings against academia in the past several years. I assure you, such rumblings are absolutely spot on, however that doesn’t diminish the need to improve yourself by education. There just is no better substitute for learning than the rigors of formal university education. I recommend classes in the humanities (English, philosophy, etc.), but I’m biased. By all means study what you enjoy!
The more knowledgeable and educated we become, the better we will be able to challenge the collectivists on the Left in 2010. The next two years are a great time to train for the rematch. Let’s not waste them!
(3) Don't Question the verdict
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:26AM EST (link)There is no question that Obama was elected because of deceit, lying, misleading, theft of votes and donations, and thuggery Chicago style.
So by your statement “Don’t question the Verdict”, are you saying that anything now goes, even with the highest job in the land. Here and on Glenn Beck today I am hearing we must now respect Obama for his position as our president. Beck said he won it fairly and squarely. Is that really what we have become as citizens of the US? Anything goes? Don’t ask any questions?
Again-
Today is the first time in my adult lifetime that I am ashamed of my country.
The Conservatives will not ever regain any power unless they are willing to stand up, with steel in their spines, and fight for what made this country great in the past.
Word.
birdmojo (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:26AM EST (link)Loyal Opposition.
If you are the latter but not the former, you are, at best, an “insurgent”.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
Kyle....
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:26AM EST (link)I think we need to make a distinction here. I don’t think we should legislate morality but I also think that just because you have the freedom to do something doesn’t justify doing it.
We should be a moral people if we wish to employ self governance. I don’t want to legislate it but that doesn’t mean I should be against morality in general.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Obamunism
ddstrain (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:30AM EST (link)One of the website has a modified Obama bumpersticker that says “Obamunism”.
I’ll be placing an order in the next couple days.
Obama IS your president
txaggies911 Wednesday, November 5th at 11:30AM EST (link)Whether you support his initiatives or not, he is. Just as Bush was still the president over the last eight years, even of those who bitterly opposed him.
Those that voted for Obama are not traitors in any way. If you do not see even your political opponents even as countrymen, then perhaps YOU are the anathema to everything this country has stood for.
And I sincerely hope that you are not ACTUALLY desiring that the next few years be terrible ones for our country.
I Could Not Disagree More
democratsarefascists Wednesday, November 5th at 11:31AM EST (link)This is a failed strategy.
This is the one where Republicans pick up the slack and play nice.
Where we pay the bills and fight for the nation’s safety.
We are the adults and the children whine until they get their way.
This lost it for us.
So I say, LET THEM FAIL.
HELP THEM FAIL.
Oppose Obama AND America, the way the Democrats opposed our country, but do it economically.
Since our auto industry was colluding with Obama before the election was even underway, cut their legs out from under them.
Help Obama destroy their jobs.
They’re union, they’ve got welfare on top of welfare.
Buy foreign-made everything, drawing the line at Chinese goods, for obvious reasons.
BOYCOTT.
Better yet, DON’T SPEND.
DON’T BUY ANYTHING.
If you must buy, buy used and Japanese.
If you can afford it as a farmer, DON’T PLANT.
Don’t go the movies.
Don’t support Hollywood.
Don’t watch network television. If you need your prolefeed, you’re already lost to their side.
Your support of these traitors is killing our country and warping your kids.
If you have any money, get it out of America now. Put it in Canada, just don’t feed the parasites.
Some dolts will whinge, “but it’s unpatriotic!” Is it patriotic to support a Communist occupation? To fund fascism?
If you think so, then be a Biden patriot and pay your taxes like a meek little sheep.
you are mistaken
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:36AM EST (link)AS BO said in regards to President Bush he was not his president. Your thinking will keep us a minority party for the next century. It is time to fight not be conciliatory.
He is not my President. He never will be. That is why in 2012 we can take back the white house. If we are just one big happy nation then we will lose.
Read and observe history especially the last 5 years. Then you will see how to regain our majority.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
A Messy Divorce
ajdx3 Wednesday, November 5th at 11:37AM EST (link)I have been married to my wife for ten years. I have been married to my country for many more. Last night, sadly, my country divorced me.
I have never lived in this country when I did not feel that I was part of the majority, a majority not based on color, religion or ethinicity, but based on ideals.
I did not ask for this divorce, nor did I expect it. My sense of loss is overwhelming. This was not just a lost election like in ’92 or ’96, where the country elected a Democrat but was not fundamentally turning to the left. But after two straight elections of Democrat domination, it is abundantly clear that America has made a hard turn to the left. We are not just an opposition party now, we are a minority opposition party.
I fear for my children. I fear they will not know the conservatism I knew as a child and was taught by my parents and Ronald Reagan. They will be taught something else, no matter how much I try to protect them from it.
My country divorced me last night. I do not know anymore whether the values I hold close are the values shared by most Americans. My fellow citizens told me last night that they do not.
I believe that politics is cyclical, and that conseratives can make a comeback, but after such a messy divorce, it will take a long time. The country has moved so far to the left that getting it to come back even to the center will take a long time. My children will likely be adults before that happens. And that is almost too much to bear.
My country divorced me last night. Irreconcilable differences, I think they call it.
I agree, Aaron.
ContraMundum Wednesday, November 5th at 11:38AM EST (link)Obama is your president, Lincoln.
He may not hold any of your views, he may be the complete anti-thesis of the Founding Fathers’ philosophy, he may even be evil (as I believe Marxism is evil),… but he is the president elect of our beloved country, and so your president to be.
It’s time to be mature. Let’s get about the business of rolling the congress in our direction in 2010, and regaining the White House in 2012.
Be proud, and fight for your country.
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“It must not be supposed that folly is as powerful as truth,
just because it can, if it likes, shout louder and longer than truth.”
–Augustine
You HAVE to Blame the Voters! THEY'RE IGNORANT!
democratsarefascists Wednesday, November 5th at 11:39AM EST (link)They’ve sat fat and happy, spoiled by the security and financial success we supplied, and which the Democrats destroyed.
They’re ignorant, and there’s no excuse for that. If they hadn’t rotted their minds with network prolefeed since the 1970s, maybe they’d realize how truly idiotic and clueless they are.
Libertarians aren't wrong on gambling
chemjeff (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:39AM EST (link)Gambling should be legal. It should be legal wherever and whenever consenting adults wish to throw their money away. The problem isn’t gambling per se, the problem is the cynical way gambling is manipulated by government to raise money “for the children”. No government says “buy more Coke because you’ll pay sales tax to fund public schools” but they will deliver exactly that same message when it comes to lottery tickets.
But I agree with your overall point that we should live more thrifty and frugal lives, and that necessarily means no gambling. So we shouldn’t encourage gambling, either explicitly or implicitly by tying essential government services to gambling revenue.
You are right about one thing
MikeO Wednesday, November 5th at 11:40AM EST (link)You are exactly right. Your platitudes and cliches about liberty for the sake of libertarian purity ignore the fundamentally flawed framework of a society hobbled against defending itself by progressive taxation, an Equal Protection sledgehammer, overreaching civil rights laws on the books, ADA, and Medicare/Medicaid.
Without these things, I freely admit that liberalization of gambling and drugs might make us more free. With them, liberalization is a surefire means to advance collectivism.
That’s just how it is. I didn’t make it that way.
No. I didn’t argue that the War on Drugs did anything positive. I argued that creeping liberalization has increased dependency and has advanced collectivism—and therefore government power—through the deadly combination of mainstreaming counterproductive behaviors while unconditionally defending universal suffrage.
Not until and unless Obama has done something genuinely impeachable.
chemjeff (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:42AM EST (link)Merely disagreeing with Obama’s judgment is not an impeachable offense. Let’s not spiral down into Koz-land.
Ignorant voters will be ignorant unemployed workers...
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:43AM EST (link)…just wait until the pink slips by the millions start flying…
they will still blame it on Bush. They will be blaming Iran’s invasion of Iraq & Israel on Bush. They will blame the next terrrorist attacks on Bush. They will blame the imposion of the moon on Bush. They will blame every natural disaster on Bush…
well you get the idea.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Holy Crap.
chemjeff (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:48AM EST (link)That is really bad news. Now I understand completely why the Estonians were crying last night. They will pay for it the same way we do: they will borrow it.
Great quote
Hermes (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:48AM EST (link)From the last and possibly only true journalist America has produced. Nice one!
Jack...don't be an a$$
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:49AM EST (link)He is your President and you can oppose him. The point is don’t act like a child who had his toy taken away or else you are no better than Obama himself. I am loyal to America and the ideals it represents regardless of who holds the office at any given time.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
I agree...
GaltJ Wednesday, November 5th at 11:50AM EST (link)Let us stop the engine of the world…
No more donations to charities
lonebeagle Wednesday, November 5th at 11:54AM EST (link)I won’t be giving any more money to charities. I used to consistently give a higher proportion of my income to many charities than B.O. did but no more. Since B.O. won this election by promising to “spread the wealth” around, I’m going to let the government take care of the poor, sick and homeless.
Obama only won because he promised the world to those in the lower social classes and those liberals who believed that the government should solve all of the social problems in this country.
So no more money from me to:
March of Dimes,
America’s Second Harvest,
Los Angeles Mission,
Union Rescue Mission,
Hollygrove,
Multiple Sclerosis Society,
American Red Cross,
Ronald McDonald House,
Easter Seals,
Goodwill,
Heifer International,
Ability First,
Toys 4 Tots,
Paralyzed Veterans of America,
American Heart Association,
American Cancer Association,
Disabled American Veterans,
Veterans of Foreign Wars,
Conservatives and Republicans give more money to charities than liberals. Since Barry is going to take more money away from me, I don’t see any reason why there is any need for me to give to charities. Let the liberals and government take care of the charities.
People want a “free lunch” and I’m not going to help pay for it.
There are a couple of local charities that I will still contribute but that’s it.
Lets all see Obama fall flat on his face. They sabotoged GW Bush from day one. I’m looking out only for myself now.
Great Post Dan, except for no. 3
chemjeff (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:54AM EST (link)Dan,
I mostly agree with you. We must remain true to our principles. That doesn’t mean we can’t fight. But we must fight in a way that will do us proud. I must quibble a bit, though, about number 3. There was undoubtedly a great deal of voter fraud in various places and we should do everything we can to root out this fraud. I doubt it would have changed the overall outcome of the election but it might have changed the outcome of a state, e.g., North Carolina. Here is one area that I hope we can work with Obama and perhaps score a few points as well.
My friends...
msullyvanunc@gmail.com Wednesday, November 5th at 11:57AM EST (link)[redacted]
“I keep pretending that I don’t know that Bobby Jindal’s a Catholic because I think that Republicans hate non-Christians, and that their brains shut down when the word “sorcerer” is used.”
I called Bob McDonnell's office this morning
Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:58AM EST (link)and volunteered.
I told them I am happy to do whatever is needed to move past what happened here last night.
I urge all Virginians to do the same.
To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher
Pray especially for the newly born
Raven (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:58AM EST (link)This is Obama with Pelosi and Reid we’re talking about, after all…
“(11) Pray: Well, this one speaks for itself. Pray especially for the unborn.”
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36
Great writing.
Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:00PM EST (link)Very well done.
To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher
Be not so glum, friend!
Hermes (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:00PM EST (link)Dem websites were posting even more angst-filled diaries in 2000 and 2004. Many of them even investigated the possibility of fleeing to Soviet Canuckistan, our neighbor to the North.
After only 8 years in the wilderness, they retook America. If you have even a glimmer of faith in conservatism, you should believe that we can accomplish the same in 4
Think of it more ...
youthgrunt (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:03PM EST (link)that your country walked out of the house and slammed the door rather than it divorced you.
This was not a referendum on conservatism. If it was, Obama would not have been running on tax cuts, protecting the right to arms, and that he would protect the country. Obama was running to the center.
But we, as conservatives, have to make our case. We have to go back to the country and prove that we are for it and that the things that we want to do are, indeed, good for the country. I think it will be an easy sell once we are acting in a way consistent with our message (which is the real reason that we have been losing)
This is the time
Terilyn Donaldson (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:04PM EST (link)to look forward. We cannot spend the next 2 years, or even 2 minutes! looking back or being angry with those who voted for BO.
As much as I resist the idea, he will be my President as well. We must simply go on.
There is no doubt that we must use this time to get some TRUE CONSERVATIVES into congress. When the 2010 elections come, we can put good conservatives in. this will give us the opening needed to win the WH in 2012.
Be strong and prepared. We will persevere.
Ter
PS: A note from my sister this morning put it all in perspective:
” Change can come in many forms and just when we least expect it. So all we can do is pray for him (BO)to do what is right by this country and let God’s plan unfold. Because remember, God is in charge and makes no mistakes.”
SURVIVING IN WYOMING…
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Take a long walk off a short pier, fella N/T
Hermes (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:04PM EST (link)N/T
I dont really agree
panthera (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:05PM EST (link)What’s up with trying to be nice? That’s what Bush and McCain tried. Obama and the democrats weren’t nice. They won.
Sorry. Not I.
Why not just say “how to take it in the A$$?”
Fight, fight..
Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
don't you mean, the MEDIA have spoken
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:08PM EST (link)That is the entity that won this election. And that free-flying garbage you spew is not helpful. Anti-Christ? His name? Muslim? That’s just slinging mud.
Sharpen your tools, kiddo.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Obama happened in NC
tankertodd (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:13PM EST (link)Just like he happened in Ohio, Indiana, and Florida. North Carolina has become more of a cross-section of the U.S. I’m inclined to take my toys and move to Idaho but I don’t think that’s productive to finding a message that resonates with the American people. Besides if we don’t find that message, Idaho will turn blue with all the Californians and Washingtonians looking to hide from oppressive taxes.
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The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race – Chief Justice Roberts
Kyle... Gambling and drugs are what make the youth so attracted to liberalism.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:14PM EST (link)The tri-media is doing that already. No need for further inducement by the government through state/federal legislation.
These two issues lead to more serious troubles that affect the economy, foreign relation and national security.
You enjoy losing too much...
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:14PM EST (link)This is about winning and losing. You will keep us as a minority party for the next century.
If you are afraid to fight then get out of the way and don’t bother those who will. Your attitude I have seen too many times and it is always a loser’s attitude.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
No I Won't Play Nice-
Dee Wednesday, November 5th at 12:14PM EST (link)My whole life I have played by the rules and tried to accomodating to everyone. And everytime I get kicked in the teeth. No more nice guy! No more civility!
That person is not my President! He lied, cheated and used stolen money to get elected. No way will my personal sense of honor allow me to even give him the respect of office. I will give him as much quarter as the media and liberals have given Bush.
Dee
Virginia Volunteering
ddstrain (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:14PM EST (link)I spent 14 hours working my precinct polling station yesterday in the rain. Quite still and pained this morning.
My precinct I am glad to say was on 51% to 47% for Obama. Typically it runs 60-somthing to 30-something for Democrats.
Fairfax County as a whole was projected as a 40% McCain vote. Looks like we hit 41%.
2010 - The Importance
CoOldGuard Wednesday, November 5th at 12:14PM EST (link)2010 will be a Census year, and most states will be re-drawing congressional districts.
Dan has a great general plan. 2012 will be here soon enough. But, 2010 is the year we MUST focus on.
Eye on the prize…
Jack you are clueless about how I feel about losing....
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:24PM EST (link)And apparently you are clueless about how to lose with dignity. You seem to be too emotional to understand that. Get your head straight and we can talk about the path forward and how to get the conservative msg out. Until then any conversation with you would be worthless. By the way, you are sounding like a Kossack in 2004.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Sounds like
msullyvanunc@gmail.com Wednesday, November 5th at 12:25PM EST (link)someone has a poopy diaper! WHAAAAAAHHHH!
“I keep pretending that I don’t know that Bobby Jindal’s a Catholic because I think that Republicans hate non-Christians, and that their brains shut down when the word “sorcerer” is used.”
I agree
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:26PM EST (link)but you have to actually give people responsibility before you can expect it of them.
Look I am perfectly willing to put away any talk of decriminalization for the time being, my whole point is that there are other fish to fry.
But if we, as a party, try to make vice law a part of our national platform instead of what it really should be, a matter for individual localities, then we will continue to lose. They just are not important right now, at least not on the national scene.
I also want to point out that we can see in England and other places, right now, just where the tendency to nanny stateism can lead us.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
One More
kchand Wednesday, November 5th at 12:27PM EST (link)You need to pray for the elderly in Washington state, too.
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The ‘N’ word is November! Nov 6, 2012 will be the next cleansing.
Maybe Prohibition 2.0 would work better with a new Constitutional Amendment.
birdmojo (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:29PM EST (link)For me, the biggest problem with John Barleycorn isn’t that the things that Billy Sunday is saying about him aren’t true, it’s that the government shouldn’t have the power to throw folks in jail for having two fingers after dinner.
Now, of course, the things that Billy Sunday is saying about John Barleycorn aren’t true…
But that’s not the biggest problem.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
Dan, it's really a good sum up of the next 4 years.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:33PM EST (link)I agree that we must continue living a healthy life as always. But the war is on!
It’s time to call a spade a spade. Let us not waste our efforts again for platitudes. We must oppose every wrong move or turn of the next Administration. No honeymoon!
Stop this bipartisanship. We must be cautious of any false attempts by the Democrats of reaching out the Republicans. These will just be “lures” so that everytime they make mistake, they will immediately blame the same against the republicans.
Remember, we are talking here of the MSM-annointed President and we can’t fight them in a fair playing field (silly, because supposed to be they are the fair playing field).
With these regards, I suggest that:
In short,
No Rest for Wicked!
I will see what I can do.
Herodotus Wednesday, November 5th at 12:34PM EST (link)I probably could stuff envelopes or something.
Sign Newt’s Drilling Petition. I have included a link to it in the below. Thank you.
http://www.americansolutions.com/
True story-
ILLINOIS_CONSERV (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:34PM EST (link)When Reagan was shot in 1981, I walked into work that day and a friend of mine (who is black) looked at me and said “I hear they shot y’alls president” Clearly inferring to me that they did not shoot her president. BHO is president-elect of the US and will be the president come this January. Being very pro-life I cannot accept him as my president. I do not believe in big government spending (by either repubs or Dems) and this will certainly be the case should he follow through on even some of his campaign promises. I will be supporting Congressional candidates who oppose BHO’s socialism in 2010 and will campaign hard against BHO in 2012. You don’t win anything with appeasement. You win by presenting strong arguments and through hard work.
The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing – Edmund Burke
Rush.....
Ron Ferraro Wednesday, November 5th at 12:39PM EST (link)…is on fire today.
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” — Winston Churchill
Hey Kowalski
Herodotus Wednesday, November 5th at 12:39PM EST (link)libertarians are not pro-gambling
Sign Newt’s Drilling Petition. I have included a link to it in the below. Thank you.
http://www.americansolutions.com/
Please, at the state, not the national level
Finrod (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:40PM EST (link)I have no problem with you being against drugs and gambling, but I would ask that you direct your efforts against those items to the state and local level, not the national level.
For example, why does possession of marijuana need to be a federal crime when it’s already a state crime in 49.1 states? If a couple of states want to legalize pot, let them! It’ll either fail or not, and if it fails the damage is restricted to those states that tried it. Same goes with gambling; I was and still am strongly against the federal ban on Internet gambling, simply because I don’t think that issue needs to be settled at that level. It’s the Democrats that are always trying to pass federal laws against everything under the sun; we should respect federalism and let the states decide as many things as possible.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
Nicely done
Ron Ferraro Wednesday, November 5th at 12:42PM EST (link)If you get someone to print it, let us know and I’ll buy one.
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” — Winston Churchill
Rush, is ...
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 12:44PM EST (link)going to soon be boring like he was in the 1990′s. His show became all Clinton, all of the time, and now it will be All Obama, all of the time, and it will be boring again.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
#14
Herodotus Wednesday, November 5th at 12:57PM EST (link)Remind, remind, and remind people that we have a democrat Congress. Congress is very unpopular yet according to a recent insider/advantage poll only 53% of the public knew the d’s control it.
Sign Newt’s Drilling Petition. I have included a link to it in the below. Thank you.
http://www.americansolutions.com/
Or, to put it another way........
The_Rebel (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:00PM EST (link)welcome to the wilderness.
Enjoy the Kool-Aid Libs
renegade Wednesday, November 5th at 1:10PM EST (link)The strange thing is it almost feels like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Not having to play defense for a RINO candidate, and a president who refused to defend himself. It’ll be refreshing to sit back and heave all the criticisms from the sidelines and be immune from any retaliatory verbage. (They will try but they will look stupid for doing so). So now you lib b*stards the government is yours you control it, you will screw it up and I will be laughing my head off. We will come back in 2 to 4 years to once again clean up your mess. Hopefully we will still have a democracy left to repair. We will come back bigger, stronger, and fierce.
Enjoy the Kool-Aid libs, we will pissed in it.
Thanks for the corrections!
azaeroprof (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:12PM EST (link)My glib post was misleading. I AM proud of my country, just not proud of what it did last night.
Though I do respect the historical aspect of electing a black Prez, just wish it had been a different one! (e.g. Condi)
So what?
Ron Ferraro Wednesday, November 5th at 1:20PM EST (link)It’s a target rich environment.
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” — Winston Churchill
Advice vs Prohibition
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:21PM EST (link)I think Kowalski’s arguments are pretty unobjectionable if phrased as advice rather than legal prohibitions.
Although I do buy lottery tickets, as long as I follow the two basic rules of (1) never bet on a jackpot you can’t retire on and (2) never buy two tickets for the same drawing.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
All excellent suggestions
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:22PM EST (link)nt
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
Document, document, document
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:25PM EST (link)Then come back to us with the argument for questioning. Don’t just jump to conclusions in the absence of evidence, is my point.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
Obamises? On it.
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:28PM EST (link)Oh, there will be fun holding him to those.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
a different take
MikeandIke Wednesday, November 5th at 1:34PM EST (link)This is a great survival guide, and i should know because i have been living much of it for the last 8 years. i voted Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004, and i absolutely sympathize with the sense of despair that many on this site feel. “How could this possibly happen? Why doesn’t America get it!?” I wondered. Let me weigh in on some of the points in the original post –
(1) Oppose Obama, Not America
*Yes. But realistically, wait until he actually tries to enact policies that you disagree with, otherwise you are practicing the kind of blind partisanship that is so corrosive in this country. And beyond that, I suspect he will turn out to be much more of a centrist and pragmatist than many on this site fear. I do recall giving Bush the benefit of the doubt for the first few years, DEFINITELY after 9/11, and initially i supported the war in Iraq. Many of my friends were marching in massive protests and i just kept thinking “You hippies are so naive! Don’t you know that Saddam has nukes and collaborates with Al Qaeda??” When i later found out these allegations were bogus, he lost credibility with me, made me feel like a sucker, and i turned hard agaist him.
(3) Don’t Question The Verdict
*Agreed. Many of my friends would gripe about the “stolen” elections of 2000 and 2004 and it always made me want to roll my eyes. In the absence of a definitive and impeachable crime, it always struck me as sour grapes, irrelevant, and never once offered any solutions to the problems we face.
(4) Don’t Blame The Voters
*Not sure i agree with this one. The beauty (and sometimes tragedy) of democracy is that voters get the government they deserve. But while the American public doesn’t always make the right call , you can rest assured that over time political parties that are incompetent or corrupt will ultimately be held accountable.
(5) Don’t Get Mad, Get Even
*Agree wholeheartedly. Take a good look at the country. Take a good look at your ideas. Debate. Argue. Refine. Then should we democrats become intellectually bankrupt and corrupt, launch a blistering attack on us and drive us out of power. Thats what we did to you, and i would expect that same. Despite my political leaning, i ultimately want the smartest and most competent people running the government – and if thats not the democrats I am perfectly happy voting for a republican.
(9) Grow A Thick Hide and Get Your Taxes in Order:
*We shall see about that – Last i heard Obama’s plan involves a tax cut for most people, and a tax hike on income above 250k. And that tax hike is from 35% to 39.6% – same as under Clinton, and lest we forget, he essentially presided over 8 years of peace and prosperity. I think conservatives run into trouble when they take the ideas of Ronald Reagan and just blindly superimpose them onto the issues of today. Under Reagan marginal tax rates were something absurd like 60 or 70%! Carter era taxes are not even remotely comparable to Obama’s tax plan. It will be very interesting to see if his proposal becomes law, these dire economic straits as they are. But time will tell.
(12) Get On Living:
*This is perhaps the best advice of all. I was so depressed about 2004 you can’t even imagine. But i got over it – and you guys will have your turn again soon. But lets face it – John McCain paid the price for the monumental failures of George Bush and the Republican party. Iraq. Torture. Abramoff. The Incompetent Rumsfeld. Enormous deficits. Hurricane Katrina. Economic Meltdown. It borders on delusional to look objectively at the last 8 years and decide that you deserve another 4. But at some point the pendulum will swing back to the right, and when it comes, you guys will just have to be sharp enough to jump on it. I mean that absolutely sincerely. I think a sharp right is the best way for the left to stay sharp. And one party rule is an invitation to temptation that is, historically, almost impossible to resist. I just pray the democrats can put things on the right track.
I hope its alright if i share my thoughts on this site – i am a liberal but I do read you guys regularly and have no interest in exclusively hearing my own beliefs regurgitated back to me. There are some really smart people on this site, i have faith you guys collectively can figure out where it went wrong for the conservative movement and make the changes. As my dad said to me last week ” i have voted republican for 28 years – but give me a break. enough is enough” – and i think most people in the nation felt that way. Obama’s record is thin, but people were willing to make a change in the belief that it couldn’t get any worse. Here’s hoping they are right.
all the best,
Scott
darn good question....
Brian Johnson (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:44PM EST (link)Admittedly, NC has had a history of having dem local officials and gone red nationally. We haven’t been blue for a president since Carter. I’m amazed that we’ve had 2 R senators for the last few years. I loved Jesse Helms and wish he was still with us. Jim Martin was our last R governor from 85-93, surrounded by Jim Hunt, D 77-85 and 93-01. Easley continued the reign of Dems in 01, and now Perdue carries the torch. And I have no clue if the state house/senate has ever been R….
So sadly, this really isn’t new…I really hoped there would be some change in NC with McCrory and an R state legislative body, but no
Brian
Here's a web site
Kevin Groenhagen (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 1:56PM EST (link)If you upload the artwork to www.makestickers.com, they can make a single bumper sticker for you. The shipping is free. I’m sure that there are other web sites that can do the same.
As the fifth great-grandson of Matthew Lyon, I hope that millions of us will speak out should Obama and the Democrats start working to suppress dissent in this country. After Woodrow Wilson, Democrats have learned to not use the word “sedition” to silence the opposition. Instead, we’ll see Orwellian measures such as the “Fairness Doctrine” and “Freedom to Vote.”
Maybe Las Vegas would work better as our typical model city. n/t
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 2:01PM EST (link)not about emotions...
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 2:01PM EST (link)Aaron you continue to be the polite loser. I choose to win.
From 1965 till 1980 we fought people like you year after year till we finally got the GOP to win.
If you are not willing to learn from history then we are doomed to repeat it. Try to understand this in the last two cycles that is 2006 and 2008 the GOP had double digit losses for the first time in our history.
While people like you wanted to just hold hands and get along with everyone the Dims were hammering us. While I and others begged the GOP to fight back they told me that history would prove them right.
They forgot Richard Nixon’s axiom. Liberals write history. Even with our version of a messiah, Ronald Reagan we could not do what their Messiah did.
They were mean, they lied, they were vicious, they did everything short of murder to win. Guess what Aaron, they won. They denied George Bush. They called him a liar. They had members of the House and the Senate on the floors of their respective bodies denounce him and say that he was not their president.
Aaron I am sure you are a nice guy have a lovely family and your kids and dogs love you. You are wrong about this and you will kill the Republican party just so you can feel better around your Democrat friends.
NO you either fight or you lose. We did not create this battle field. Our unwillingness to fight on it and by their rules will kill us off.
Aaron I have no intention of being a member of a modern day whig party. Show me anyone who says win with honor and I will show you a loser.
Read history of campaigns Aaron you will find that in the pantheon of history you are on the losing side.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
Fascinating
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 2:18PM EST (link)I’m astonished by how much of that has already come true. As it unfolds before our very eyes, my fellow Americans are whistling in the dark, either pretending that it’s not happening or actually embracing the ideology.
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Re: #10
Robert L. Mayo (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 2:18PM EST (link)Regarding number 10 on you list: “Buy More Life Insurance”, I’m pretty sure most/all life insurance policies exclude acts of war or terrorism.
A small point, but after pouring over the election results all night, that’s all I got.
Robert L. Mayo
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men.
- Goethe
Jack you make a lot of assumptions about who I am and what I stand for...
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 2:23PM EST (link)and you couldn’t be any further from the truth if you were truing purposefully to be. I can stand liberalism in the modern sense. I know that it is really progressivism re-named. I understand that it is socialist and fascist in its very nature. And in that understanding I also know that they win be demonizing the “Other”. If you wish to use tactics of the fascist to simply regain power than you might as well just call yourself a fascist and be done with it.
Conservatism ain’t easy. Go back and read some of the stuff I have written on this site before you try and lump me in as being some Rino Squish. This is why I said you are being emotional. You didn’t even bother looking at what I have written in the past on these very subjects.
So once again I will encourage you to think about what you are say before you indiscriminately bash me. I believe the way to win is to be an outspoken conservative. Someone who adheres to core conservative principles, not someone who decides that since they didn’t get their way that they will then employ the tactics of fascism and identity politics. Lets leave that to the Clintons and Obamas of the world.
There is no sense in making me your enemy.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Is Chicago 1920-1933 better or worse?
birdmojo (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 2:23PM EST (link)You know, as the template for all the rest of them.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
Don't blame the voters?
Kathyrep Wednesday, November 5th at 2:36PM EST (link)In California the “good” Christians “saved” marriage and let America as we know it die! How can you vote yes on 8 and then vote for Obama? I will continue to vote a straight Republican ticket for as long as I live but fully expect to die in a communist country. Today I am entirely without hope.
Knowingly taking illegal campaign contributions
Next93 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 2:49PM EST (link)I beleive that knowingly allowing his campaign to take illegal contributions is, in fact, an impeachable offense.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
Outstanding piece of work, Dan. Not sure
eburke (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 3:15PM EST (link)how people are reading into your diary more of the New Tone that got us to where we are today. All I see is ‘oppose vigorously but don’t become unhinged’. Unlike they do for the libs, the media will not cover for our ‘loons’ even if what they’re saying is true (ask Michelle Bachmann)
As for those who delusionally continue in their belief that the GOP just isn’t moderating enough – I would direct you to the CNN exit poll which show that McCain won 89% of the R’s but only 78% of self-described conservatives.
If we ponder that for a moment that tells us two things – 1) there are D’s out there who describe themselves as conservative; and 2) The Republcian brand has become so indistinguishable from the Socialist/Democrats that 22% of people who consider themselves conservative voted for the most openly Marxist candidate in our history.
Had we won the same percentage of conservatives that Obama won among liberals, we’d be discussing President McCain’s cabinet right now.
If that doesn’t tell you that we haven’t talked the conservative talk and walked the conservative walk I’m not sure what will.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
Personal inner turmoil is why people use alcohol, drugs, etc,
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 3:24PM EST (link)not because someone restricts access to them.
Just for the record, I’m not for prohibition type laws at the federal level, as you are aware. I am for, however, helping people find a real source of inner peace, and therefore will continue to voice opposition to the ideas that would lead people not to real liberty, but real bondage.
**First para second sent...can should be can't...n/t
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 3:26PM EST (link)n/t
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Moral Relativism
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 3:33PM EST (link)This is all about Moral Relativism. And I wish one of you really smart guys would start a blog about that.
Moral Relativism will take down the Left, in time. It is the moving force behind the “decline and decadence” that we are starting to see now. It’s what’s happening in Hollywood and on MSM.
And by opposing it, we will rise again.
I hope that someone will have a discussion on this because it’s important and I think it IS what’s going wrong in America.
A personal blog
Join the RedState Strike Force
true enough
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 3:49PM EST (link)I neither gamble, nor do drugs. but just because I disapprove of those things does not meant I should therefore futilely try to use law to stop them and by doing so take away my own rights.
It always comes down to this, you either believe in personal responsibility and personal liberty or you don’t. And the two go together. If a state allows marijuana, then they should treat it as they do alcohol and tobacco, with stringent guidelines and fines against DUI etc.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
People drink beer because of inner turmoil?
birdmojo (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 4:01PM EST (link)This is my problem with psychoanalyzing in the middle of a political discussion.
“Oh, they did a study and they found that people are conservative because they were harshly potty trained.”
“I hate those studies… how come they never say that people are liberals because they were allowed to pee on the carpet whenever they wanted?”
“I’m just reading the article, my man.”
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
people go to games painted up and half naked
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 4:09PM EST (link)because they are really conflicted neocon pacifists.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
I think that is the difference, though
tcgeol (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 4:26PM EST (link)Kowalski was giving advice (great advice for that matter) for how we should live during our wilderness journey, not how we must live. As mentioned above, there is a big difference between legal and moral. The first we should look at with great care, the second we should support.
You are right that these should not be legislative matters, but that wasn’t Kowalski’s argument in the first place.
Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger
Even the Left admits we’re Right
Your ideas have been tried & have failed!
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 4:30PM EST (link)You refuse to see the proof in LA, San Fran, Las Vegas, etc. Your ideas only produce the need for more government, not less.
reading is good....
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 4:33PM EST (link)If you had bothered to read my entries you would have known that in September I said that McCain would lose if he did not take the opportunity to bash Obama when McCain and Palin took the lead.
He had a chance to win but he blew it. That is undeniable now. You cannot beat anyone when their favorables are at 60%.
If you believe that saying he is not my President that makes me a fascist then you understand nothing of fascism and even less of political campaigns.
This thread has lost any entertainment value it had. Good night sir.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
They have?
birdmojo (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 4:37PM EST (link)Because, from my perspective, the cops are still kicking down doors and shooting labradors.
Where, exactly, have my ideas been tried?
To be quite honest, this strikes me as analagous to a friend of mine who told me that the defeat of the Republicans in 2006 and 2008 was a defeat of Conservativism, social, fiscal, and hawkish. I didn’t bother going into discussions of the propositions that “saved marriage” or about what’s going on with Iraq… because, quite honestly, I quickly assessed that his opinions were deeply deeply held despite a reasonable suspicion that there wasn’t a 1:1 mapping between them and reality.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
He's already beginnng to renege...
lonebeagle Wednesday, November 5th at 4:45PM EST (link)This is from the web:
The MSM is running stories on how Barack won’t be able to do any of the things that he promised during the campaign.
What a freakin joke! So there are stories all over the place about how the tax cuts (i.e., welfare checks) are going to have to wait since there the feds don’t have the money.
I sure hope that the 98% of black folks who voted for their Messiah don’t get too angry when their deliverance from slavery is delayed.
It’s day ONE of the Barack regime and the MSM has already begun to run interference for the Messiah! Talk about bait and switch and selling a load of defective goods.
You shouldn't be looking for entertainment in the first place...n/t
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 4:47PM EST (link)n/t
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
This surprises you?
larueladue (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 6:12PM EST (link)n/t
The best thing we can do
Puritan (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 7:42PM EST (link)for our cause as conservatives is to demonstrate how to be gracious in defeat, without giving up the fight. We cannot let ourselves be dragged down to the level of the unhinged left.
The left will be gloating for awhile, at least until reality sets in, but we will gain many converts if we remain loyal but true to our principles when the excrement hits the fan (and it will).
Yes, Obama will blame Bush for the problems he will exacerbate, but it will ultimately ring hollow just as it rang hollow when Republicans (rightly IMO) blamed the Democrats for the housing meltdown. Rightly or wrongly, the party in power always gets the blame when the economy tanks.
Premature before 2010
Republicanuck (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 8:59PM EST (link)Regardless of how the “high crime or misdemeanor” might be defined, any articles of impeachment passed by Congress lead to a trial in the Senate and only on conviction in the Senate can the President be removed from office. Without a Senate majority – this is a non-starter.
I'd put a caveat on that
The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:51PM EST (link)which is when we KNOW a Republican is on the wrong side of the law, kill him and kill him quick (politically speaking of course). Alaska wouldn’t have been a concern if Republicans had kicked his sorry butt to curb well before the election. Tolerating that kind of behavior is part of what robbed us of the moral high ground on the corruption issue.
But, yes, don’t throw them under the bus because a Dem says he has been offended.
Soviet Canuckistan no more!!!
Republicanuck (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:57PM EST (link)In case you hadn’t heard, which would not be surprising, we re-elected our Conservatives up here on Nov. 14. We do have a long legacy of socialist Liberalism that weighs us down and hampers our competitiveness, but were are gradually coming to our senses. I can only hope the same for Barackistan to re-emerge as the Good Ol’ USA come 2010, then 2012.
Oops - that should have read Oct. 14.
Republicanuck (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:59PM EST (link)n/t
Don't insult Mencken by calling him a journalist!
The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 9:59PM EST (link)He was a newsman and he would have told you so himself. Wesley Pruden at The Washington Times wasn’t so bad either. I wish he was still running the paper, but at least he still contributes the occasional column.
I never bought the "doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense" argument
The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 10:08PM EST (link)This argument is based on focusing on the “high crimes” part of “high crimes and misdemeanors” and somehow imparting that to the “misdemeanor” part as well. If that is to be the case I ask, what the h* is a ‘high misdemeanor’? Simply stating it plainly makes the idiocy of the statement clear. Taking foreign money to fund your campaign is clearly at least a misdemeanor and is therefore an impeachable offense.
That being said, Republicanuck has posted the definitive argument for not pursuing the impeachment route: it isn’t a legal punishment, it is a political act, and if you don’t have the votes to win it, don’t even start it.
You've managed to make a few cogent points, so I'll give you a chance
The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:09PM EST (link)1) No, I will oppose him at every turn unless it is distinctly to the advantage of me and my party to not oppose him. Obama is distinct from Bush and Clinton. Clinton was a liar, a thief, a coward, and an uber-liberal. Clinton was, just barely, the opposition. Obama is in a different class. He is Marxist, and he is an enemy. I will treat him as such. I have personally been threatened with physical violence by one of his supporters, someone I use to count as a friend. He is following the playbook of and all other totalitarians before him: promise the people to restore them to greatness while plotting your personal will for the whole of the country. He didn’t sit in Wright’s church for 20 years and not know the vileness proffered there. He either believes the same thing lock stock and barrel, or his is too stupid to know how vile it was. I don’t think he was too stupid. He believes implicitly that redistribution of wealth is both fair and necessary. He wouldn’t say it in the debates, or any time he appeared on camera during the election season, but before the election, when he believed himself in friendly territory he explicitly endorsed these actions as necessary and proper for government.
I know you and Dan disagree with me on this one, and don’t recognize the
distinction. If I were to assume he was only the loyal opposition, your arguments would be sound.
(3) I have mixed feelings about. I am suspicious of vote fraud, especially with all the prolonged early balloting and efforts from ACORN to undermine the voting rolls. I’ll suck up the election results, but I’m no longer sure we have enough people who are only voting once to be sure we are having fair elections. Yes, I know this is precisely the effect ACORN intends to have on faith in elections, but frankly, until every voter is required to provide ID at the polling place, and absentee balloting laws are tightened so you can’t be registered in more than one location at the same time, I can’t trust the polls anymore. The only reason I don’t carp on it more is that I reside in the People’s Republic of Maryland, where even if people are only voting once, I will still loose. But you are correct that it will mostly strike people as sour grapes.
(5) Actually, you’d rather have me mad than planning to get even. If I’m mad, I’ll always come straight at you and you might actually be able to defend yourself. If I’m getting even, you’ll never see it coming. As for the smartest people, nope, not anymore. I spent too much time with them in college and have no faith in them. I want hard working Americans in office, people like Joe the Plumber, whom I trust more than any Harvard educated graduate anywhere. Joe’s instincts will get him to the right solution when all the smart people are doomed to fail. But I’ll give you marks for effort on this one, it is the conventional wisdom.
(9) Here is where you need the most correction. I don’t give a d* what Obama says he’s going to do for my taxes, I care a great deal about what he will DO for my taxes. The only true statement you make is that Obama’s taxes will not look anything like Carter’s, but that is because Obama’s taxes will make Carter’s look positively sane. Obama is targeting for tax increases precisely the areas that are most sensitive to job creation. He says he’s going to reduce my taxes by putting them on the greedy businessmen who’ve been stealing me blind. I have news for you, news that Joe the Plumber understands: Whether the tax rate is 5%, 50%, or 95% doesn’t matter, businesses still don’t pay taxes. If you are a business, even a non-profit business, there are only two words on your cash flow sheet that you care about, and two numbers associated with them: Income, and Expenses. For a business, a tax is just one more expense. You pass the cost along to the customer. At the end of the day if you are a commercial business, your expenses, including wages and benefits to employees, must be deducted from your income and still leave enough profit so it is worth it to your investors, even if the only investor is yourself. So businesses either collect the tax for the government (and encourage further business bashing in the process with the people who are really increasing the cost of the product doing the bashing), or you go out of business. And every economist I know of agrees that according to the accepted definitions of progressive and regressive as applied to taxation, sales taxes of this sort are regressive taxes, impacting the less wealthy far more than the wealthy.
(12) If I had a life, I would get on with it. As is, I will continue to meander aimlessly, keeping my bills paid and hanging out with friends.
I do hope you enjoy your stay at Red State.
I take a different view of Obama
QueenOfCups (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:19PM EST (link)I don’t necessarily think he is Marxist per say, I think he used all those people to position himself for power. I think he found these people to be gatekeepers of power and he tapped into it.
I also think he will do what is expedient to keep that power. I think if we are vigilant about things that are making their way through the house or senate and we give adequate protest, he will back off.
But, it is necessary we start building grass roots movements to build this opposition now.
Lol! Well said
Hermes (Diary) Wednesday, November 5th at 11:31PM EST (link)I admire the efforts of Mr. Harper and company to retake Canada from the Euro-socialists who have controlled it for far too long and I wish him and all Canadians the very best of luck.
I am concerned that the PM will run into brick walls when trying to work with His Holiness, the President-Elect, however. At issue will be:
Afghanistan and Mr. Harper’s promise to withdraw Canadian troops by 2011. The gentleman from Illinois will hear of no such thing; rather he wants more troops there.
Our new Marxist President-Elect is not a free-trade type of guy. That doesn’t bode well for US-Canada relations.
Will Canadians continue to support their own PM over a US President that they seem to be in love with? I am very worried about this point.
Obamises... Yeah! Track them, Dan.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 2:54AM EST (link)To RS technical people, I hope we can have a corner in the website that tracks all these promises and check how Obama performs.
LOL bird, you complain about psychoanalyzing then
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 8:05AM EST (link)you turn around, and then tell me I’m living in a fantasy world.
You’re acting like a liberal saying “life isn’t fair & balanced” with your complaining about localized events involving the wrongful use of police force or the restricting of certain marrage benefits. Why don’t you move to these areas and personally change them if it bothers you so much that they don’t believe the way you do? Why does the federal government need to be involved?
Not getting off that easy
panthera (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 8:16AM EST (link)“For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.”
The Reign of Lame Falls Mainly on McCain
By Coulter
Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
No, not a fantasy world.
birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 10:17AM EST (link)I’m just telling you “you’re wrong”.
It’s like if I told you that we just finished living under an ideal Bob Jones Presidency these last 8 years and now it’s time for us to try something new.
My ideas have not been “tried”. They haven’t been “tried” in Las Vegas, they aren’t being tried anywhere else in the country.
As for why I keep invoking the Federal Government, it’s more that the Federal Government keeps invoking itself. Read Wickard again. Read Raich again.
This is why I invoke the Feds. I invoke them to tell them, once again, to read the 10th Amendment.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
The federal government isn't involking itself, "the people"
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 11:44AM EST (link)are involking their government through representatives just as the consitution allows them too.
one man's modus ponens is another man's modus tollens
birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 12:24PM EST (link)Was Bork being Borked an example of the politicization of the Supreme Court nomination process or was it an example of the will of the people being made manifest through the duly elected senators of their states?
Is the Supreme Court saying “this law, as written, is unconstitutional” an example of a check/balance written into the Constitution for that exact purpose or is is “legislation from the bench”?
If the will of the people is to vote in people who will overturn the 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 10th Amendments without a constitutional amendment doing so, is “they’re following the will of the people” a particularly good argument in defense of the laws being passed or is it a deflection from the topic at hand?
All that to say:
When you say “they’ve tried it your way” in reference to me, allow me to say, once again, “the heck they have!”
You are wrong when they say that. I don’t know if it’s because you don’t know what my way actually is or because you have a much, much different definition of “tried” than the one I am used to but I can tell you that, no matter which of those is the fundamental reason (or both, I suppose), you remain completely mistaken.
Which, allow me to point out, is not saying “you’re living in a fantasy world”.
It’s just me saying “No. You’re wrong.”
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
Do "the people" really care about the constitution?
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 1:00PM EST (link)I think they have answered this election with a resounding, NO! The people want what they want, and they’re not going to let a 200 hundred year old piece of paper, with some trivial rules about how to get things done, get in their way. So your refering to its authority would seem to be pointless.
Also, do you even listen to yourself? To say your ideas have not been tried in some form or fashion since the founding of our nation would either defy reality or merely expose them as being worthless having been reviewed/rejected by the people!
This is what you said:
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 1:22PM EST (link)“I quickly assessed that his opinions were deeply deeply held despite a reasonable suspicion that there wasn’t a 1:1 mapping between them and reality”.
This isn’t a reference to the fact that this person was mistaken, but simply living in a fantasy world not based on your view of reality.
I stand by that.
birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 1:31PM EST (link)I’d say the same about someone who argued that we’ve been living under Bob Jones IV these last eight years.
There’s not a 1:1 mapping between reality and their opinion of it.
Do you still hold the opinion that we’ve tried my way of doing things?
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
I answered your question above, and by the way
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 1:42PM EST (link)your quote that I posted was an inference to me living in a fantasy world, not just being mistaken. Not that it matters to me personally, but just so you know, I understand what you were saying even if you want to try and explain to me that you were just saying I’m mistaken.
And, again...
birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 4:12PM EST (link)If you think that they tried my way, then there is not a 1:1 mapping between your view and the reality of the situation.
I don’t know if the breakdown is in what you seem to think my way is or in your use of the word “tried” (or both) but there is not a 1:1 mapping between your view and reality.
If you want to interpret that as me saying that you are living in a fantasy world…
Well, once again, we encounter there not being a 1:1 mapping between your viewpoint and the reality of the situation.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
So bird, enlighting the world to your way that hasn't been tried? n/t
Vaughn Harold (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 4:25PM EST (link)What, you mean "liberty"?
birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 4:32PM EST (link)You mean a fulsome reading of the 10th Amendment? You mean an attitude that the Federal Government does not have the right to tax wheat that is grown on one’s own property to feed to one’s own horses?
I suppose, technically, we DID try it my way from around 1773-1820ish or something.
Is that what we’re referring to here?
The fact that, before 1906, we didn’t have an FDA?
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire
Agreed, but there are limits
Next93 (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 9:23PM EST (link)He’s my pesident, too. But that will change as soon as he tries to give the World Court authority over US citizens or allow the UN to levy taxes on the US (both ideas he’s promoted in the past).
If that comes to pass, the compact is broken and all bets are off. I won’t allow him to make me and my children subjects to unelected authority, even if it’s done in the name of “fairness”.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
You're playing into thier game
Next93 (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 10:04PM EST (link)The libs detest the very concept of private charities. They beleive that it ammounts to taking the table scraps that the fat-cats deign to dole out. It’s so much less demeaning to have the government take it and hand it over in the form of “entitlements”.
They don’t beleive that individuals will donate enough unless they’re forced to by the government, and that individuals aren’t smart enough to put it in the correct charities unless the “giving” is controlled by people who “know better”, i.e., people who have the proper Lib credentials. Plus, it doesn’t give the libs the opportunity to punish the people that they feel are responsible for poverty in the first place.
Think about it; if people like Obama beleived that private charities could be effective, they wouldn’t be libs, they’d be conservatives working with private and faith-based charities.
If you withhold your voluntary donations, you’re just proving thier point for them. And hurting what few private charities that don’t already have thier lips firmly affixed to the public teat.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
ARRRRGH! make it STOP!
Next93 (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 11:11PM EST (link)Just so you know, I’m having a real hard time liking Redstate 3.0
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
[THE DOG.]
youbastards Saturday, November 15th at 12:21AM EST (link)[Really, with a username like that, why pretend that you're anything but a schmuck? - Moe Lane]
It's Happy Bunny Time!!!
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, November 15th at 12:26AM EST (link)