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On Monday, Joe Biden’s wife – in an interview with Oprah Winfrey – divulged an interesting little secret: Obama promised Joe Biden an appointment as Secretary of State if he were to turn down the Vice-Presidential nomination.
Scranton Joe hushed his wife with a loud “shh!” immediately after the slip. (Apparently, only Biden men are allowed to make inappropriate verbal gaffes in nationally televised interviews). It was just so darn cute, though, that the audience erupted into laughter. Jill Biden went on to explain that they turned down the SecState job because it would require a lot of travel, and Jill just can’t stand being away from the big lug. At this point, I am guessing that the crowd let out an “awww” that hasn’t been heard since the Olsen twins first strolled out on the set of Full House (and into our hearts). And so, the nation enjoyed yet another endearing and heartwarming moment during the inspirational build-up to the historic inauguration of Saint President Barack Obama.
At least, that is the saccharine spin from the AP. There is, however, an alternative interpretation of this story – one that does not fit quite as well with the mood of excitement and anticipation at the coming Golden Age: Jill Biden inadvertently revealed a serious federal crime by the President-elect, and her husband quickly tried to shut her up before she divulged more details about the criminal act.
As many of you know, 18 U.S.C. § 599 sets forth the following election crime:
Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
This statute is the reason candidates never reveal their key appointments before the election, despite the obvious benefit of naming potential Cabinet members with large constituencies. It is also fairly well-known to the press – whenever one of the “talking heads” suggests that a candidate declare all or part of their cabinet appointments in order to give assurances on some pressing issue, the law will usually be brought up by another pundit as the reason such a strategy cannot be used. In short, both Obama and the AP knew or should have known that promising the State Department to Biden before the election is highly unethical and potentially criminal.
Now, I don’t think this will derail the Obama Express. The statute has not been tested with respect to a President’s Cabinet (presumably because all previous Presidents have been experienced enough to avoid the rookie mistake of explicitly promising Cabinet appointments). Also, the law’s vagueness allows plenty of weasel-room, and Obama’s staff has plenty of weasels to find that room and squeeze Obama through it. However, if the Obama administration even thinks about prosecuting brave servants of our country (including President Bush) for frightening terrorists with cups of water, then they should have no problem appointing a special prosecutor to investigate whether Obama violated federal law by pledging the State Department to a gaffe-prone blowhard so he could win an election.
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Absolutely pathetic
Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 6:28PM EST (link)Snob-bama should really teach the Bidens how to keep their mouths shut.
Didn't you here?
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 6:45PM EST (link)Those laws don’t apply to the democrats. It does not seem that many laws apply to the democrats.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
One way to learn things
woodsman (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 7:14PM EST (link)is to put a camera or microphone in front of a politician. They can’t refuse the airtime and you might actually hear what is going on.
It's The Guffaws and The Booing That Makes This Clip
IJB Monday, January 19th at 7:42PM EST (link)All the Obamabots in that audience were about 10 seconds away from tearing both Bidens limb from limb.
It’s going to be both fun and scary to see what the Obamabots will be willing to do over the next 4 years…
Distractions
angryred Monday, January 19th at 7:44PM EST (link)Looks like more distractions from the Historical event of our lifetime
1-20-13 Hope for Change
Meanwhile in the Oval Office...
Josh Painter (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 7:48PM EST (link)The Secret Service is securing all the lamps for Hillary Clinton’s first meeting there with the new president.
- JP
“An armed society is a polite society” – Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)
let 'em keep talking!
rick554 Monday, January 19th at 7:53PM EST (link)Just keep talking Jill and Joe. Hopefully next time it will be on The View or maybe even CSPAN! This crew is a pack of idiots. God help us.
Rick554
"Obama’s staff has plenty of weasels"
olsmithie (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 8:04PM EST (link)I’m sure Reno, I mean AG Holder will bring him on trial right after the immaculate inauguration.
After all , Reno’s chief job was firefighting for the crimes the Clintons “allegedly” committed. I am sure Holder is up to the job.
Perhaps they will assign the Park Police to investigate it as they did Vince Fosters death.
Regards
Two years in jail would be a godsend compared
Tbone (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 8:14PM EST (link)to having Biden as your VP for 4 years. Obama ought to cop a plea.
“for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
I'm pretty sure
BlueLandRed (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 9:04PM EST (link)that if called on this or any issue, Obama will immediately jump to the Nixon Defense:
Umm...I hate to say it...
RandomGuy (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 8:30PM EST (link)But the law says if he did it TO GAIN HIS SUPPORT. Biden no doubt endorsed Obama long before he offered him the VP slot.
It wouldn’t be a “serious federal crime” anyway, I’d say, because I bet you anything that law would be struck down as unconstitutional as applied if you tried to apply it in the way you are speaking of. It would squelch speech and association rights something fierce applied the way you want it applied.
The only thing alarming about this is that he actually considered Biden for Secretary of State…which is even more frightening then Biden as VP.
Draft Mitch Daniels for President ’12
Details, details...
czs (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 9:35PM EST (link)We have to start approaching this ‘thing of ours’ like a lawyer, not a judge (as has been our habit).
When the Left accused President Bush and his administration of crime after crime, they didn’t hold back because it was possible that a fair judge’s interpretation of the statute might not cover the action in question (e.g., the Plame affair). The only test they applied before launching an allegation of criminality is the “straight face” test I was taught to use when I practiced law. As you may have guessed, the test is: If you can argue that the law applies with a straight face, then you can (and should) argue it at the top of my lungs to anyone that will listen.
Let me demonstrate in addressing your two points:
(a) Obama secured Biden’s support within the meaning of the statute through his pledge. By making the two-pronged offer, Obama intended to secure stronger support from Biden in the case Biden turned down the VP nomination. Particularly, the intent was to make sure Biden was placated and ego-stroked enough that he would make additional campaign appearances, fundraising efforts, etc. regardless of whether he was the VP candidate. If this type of additional support, i.e., support beyond the simple act of voting for a candidate, were not “support” under the statute, the standard of proof would be impossible. (The prosecutor would essentially have to prove that the recipient of the bargain would in fact, have voted for the other guy unless the promise was made, which is a question of intent that is impossible to determine).
(b) Application of the statute to a private bargain during a campaign does not impinge on the First Amendment. While a similar state law was struck down when applied to a candidate’s public campaign pledge to cut pay for certain employees (Brown v. Hartlege), the Court explicitly stated that the same constitutional restrictions do not hold when the law is applied to private, individual bargains. If Obama’s offer was political speech and/or association, why did he not proclaim it to the rafters in that soaring voice of his? Because it was not speech but a private inducement to secure the support of Biden in case the VP nom. did not work out.
See? I made that argument, and I am not smiling at all. The straight-face test has been passed. (OK, I am smirking a little, but that doesn’t count).
Ahh yes, remember ... it's not the nature of the evidence,
cookcountyconservative (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 9:43PM EST (link)it’s the seriousness of the charge! We must begin an investigation of this matter immediately!
Unfortunately,
BlueLandRed (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 11:34PM EST (link)one (of the many) disadvantages of being a minority party in both houses, is that starting an investigation is going to be very difficult. And the odds of convincing the libural media to investigate Obama are not only extremely long, but probably won’t be well received by the sheople”. Expect this little revelation to vanish like fart in the wind.
Sort of like how the dems
The_Rebel (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 11:04PM EST (link)attempted to squelch Dick Cheney’s speech and association rights. Of course, it was ok for them to try it, though.
This was just another shot at Hillary
jeffstone Monday, January 19th at 8:36PM EST (link)A well acted and orchestrated shot.
Are we to really believe that the Bidens did not have advance notice of O’s questions ?
O has been genuflecting in front of O for so long.
What better way to show she still is than to have someone “in the know” point out that Hillary got sloppy-seconds? Probably whichever post she got, SecState or VP.
It's worse than sloppy-seconds
Cowboy (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 9:27PM EST (link)Had Joe taken the Sec-State gig Hillary would have been offered even less.
If their was ever going to be an offer to theVP slot it would have been made to her first. She was never considered. Barry O was smart enough not to go there.
Heck I thought that was just normal politics,
scottbomb (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 8:41PM EST (link)even if he did offer it to get Joe’s support. I suppose someone will now try to tell me that politicians taking money from campaign doners in exchange for favors is illegal too.
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Heh, it's reminiscent of Blago’s Pick!
cookcountyconservative (Diary) Monday, January 19th at 9:28PM EST (link)Rahm and the boys will come up with something really good to promise him that will shut the both of them up to be sure.
Actually, I wonder...
CJB68 Monday, January 19th at 9:42PM EST (link)On the other hand, how long do you think Biden will last before he gets booted from his VP seat? The name “Spiro Agnew” comes to mind…
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I had that thought too, but
AKSteveB (Diary) Tuesday, January 20th at 12:03AM EST (link)it really is gonna be fun seeing him be the Quayle of the left.
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