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		<title>By: LJ "Beaglescout" Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ "Beaglescout" Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s one of the most lib papers out there and it&#039;s going up for sale. Know anyone with deep pockets who wants to do a turnaround on a big lib paper in the middle of a depression?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one of the most lib papers out there and it&#8217;s going up for sale. Know anyone with deep pockets who wants to do a turnaround on a big lib paper in the middle of a depression?</p>
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		<title>By: CTVoter2010</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>CTVoter2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: CTVoter2010</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>CTVoter2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone is saying otherwise. What I blame the media for is spreading their liberal talking points while parading around as noble, truth-seeking public servants. 

I know it is BS, and you know it, but I truly believe much of the country does not. They don&#039;t care what the historical foundation of the journalism industry is; they believe the job of the media is to disseminate facts and they believe what they hear.

Conservatives certainly bear responsibility for allowing the media to get away with it without adequately challenging them, and I don&#039;t blame the media for fooling me; but I blame them for taking the rest of the country down with them. I agree we need to make them pay, and I am happy to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is saying otherwise. What I blame the media for is spreading their liberal talking points while parading around as noble, truth-seeking public servants. </p>
<p>I know it is BS, and you know it, but I truly believe much of the country does not. They don&#8217;t care what the historical foundation of the journalism industry is; they believe the job of the media is to disseminate facts and they believe what they hear.</p>
<p>Conservatives certainly bear responsibility for allowing the media to get away with it without adequately challenging them, and I don&#8217;t blame the media for fooling me; but I blame them for taking the rest of the country down with them. I agree we need to make them pay, and I am happy to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody pays any attention to these appointments, but usually the Board of Regents is a gubernatorial appointment with legislative confirmation.  We need to make it a Party priority to pay attention, the Left controls these by default.  The &quot;Education Community&quot; suggests some Educrats and if they haven&#039;t given to the CPUSA or something, the Gov sends their name to the Leg..  If a Republican gives it any thought at all, he picks some rich guy who might give an endowment to the U and rewards him with a regency.

Likewise, State Boards of Education and State Superintendents of Schools where they&#039;re appointed, even where they&#039;re elected; it is that important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody pays any attention to these appointments, but usually the Board of Regents is a gubernatorial appointment with legislative confirmation.  We need to make it a Party priority to pay attention, the Left controls these by default.  The &#8220;Education Community&#8221; suggests some Educrats and if they haven&#8217;t given to the CPUSA or something, the Gov sends their name to the Leg..  If a Republican gives it any thought at all, he picks some rich guy who might give an endowment to the U and rewards him with a regency.</p>
<p>Likewise, State Boards of Education and State Superintendents of Schools where they&#8217;re appointed, even where they&#8217;re elected; it is that important.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a POTUS who effectively believed in nothing abhorrent to Democrats is precisely the killer.  And not just with F/F.  You can add in his comical, not-even-close-to-half-hearted attempt to &quot;reform&quot; social security.  Or his outrage at the NYT over printing classified material. Or...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a POTUS who effectively believed in nothing abhorrent to Democrats is precisely the killer.  And not just with F/F.  You can add in his comical, not-even-close-to-half-hearted attempt to &#8220;reform&#8221; social security.  Or his outrage at the NYT over printing classified material. Or&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unless the guy with the bully pulpit allows them to be.

Example:  Ronald Wilson Reagan.  The beating he took from D&#039;s and the media was 100 times worse than Bush ever got.  Yet on every - repeat every - major issue he prevailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unless the guy with the bully pulpit allows them to be.</p>
<p>Example:  Ronald Wilson Reagan.  The beating he took from D&#8217;s and the media was 100 times worse than Bush ever got.  Yet on every &#8211; repeat every &#8211; major issue he prevailed.</p>
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		<title>By: davo119</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>davo119</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we can buy *theirs*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we can buy *theirs*.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: itrytobenice</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>itrytobenice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>than a concrete block!!!!

Or is it torture?  Oh dear.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>than a concrete block!!!!</p>
<p>Or is it torture?  Oh dear.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAH!  I&#039;ve been waiting for MONTHS for a good chance to say that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAH!  I&#8217;ve been waiting for MONTHS for a good chance to say that!</p>
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		<title>By: itrytobenice</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>itrytobenice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I liberally (if you&#039;ll excuse the term) apply salt and take care of the problem.

I&#039;m doing everything I can to eliminate the market for the MSM.  I cancelled all my subscriptions, I don&#039;t read their websites and I do read their competition.

And I use Craig&#039;s List.  Just for a little extra salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I liberally (if you&#8217;ll excuse the term) apply salt and take care of the problem.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing everything I can to eliminate the market for the MSM.  I cancelled all my subscriptions, I don&#8217;t read their websites and I do read their competition.</p>
<p>And I use Craig&#8217;s List.  Just for a little extra salt.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ "Beaglescout" Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ "Beaglescout" Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How far does the Republican party need to go in order to match the Democrats for newspaper coverage? The newspaper business is tanking. Will a lively bunch of republican newspapers turn it around, or is this all about throwing good money after bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How far does the Republican party need to go in order to match the Democrats for newspaper coverage? The newspaper business is tanking. Will a lively bunch of republican newspapers turn it around, or is this all about throwing good money after bad?</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I&#039;m possessed of a less than pure heart.  I blame the slug, and I drop a great big concrete brick onto it.

I hope to do the same to the Treason Media, and I will curse them as they die ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I&#8217;m possessed of a less than pure heart.  I blame the slug, and I drop a great big concrete brick onto it.</p>
<p>I hope to do the same to the Treason Media, and I will curse them as they die ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who produce the reporters from J-school that slant their stories to the Left.  The mush-filled brains that emerge from universities now are so thoroughly indoctrinated in leftist propaganda that they can&#039;t help but write biased stuff.

I am convinced that the only way to sway the country back in the right direction is to recapture the education system, and I&#039;ll be damned if I can tell you how that could happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who produce the reporters from J-school that slant their stories to the Left.  The mush-filled brains that emerge from universities now are so thoroughly indoctrinated in leftist propaganda that they can&#8217;t help but write biased stuff.</p>
<p>I am convinced that the only way to sway the country back in the right direction is to recapture the education system, and I&#8217;ll be damned if I can tell you how that could happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is I don&#039;t expect any better from liberals in any position of power. That&#039;s just how they roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is I don&#8217;t expect any better from liberals in any position of power. That&#8217;s just how they roll.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The larger point is true - they have a right to be slimy, lying leftist Marxists who hate America.  And the follow-up point is also true -- that Republicans have been extremely cowardly and craven in response.

I say with you, make the bbbstards pay, hard.  And I do blame them as the primary culprit in the downfall of the GOP and the ascension of this despicable crowd that now runs our nation and desires, post-haste, to drive it into the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The larger point is true &#8211; they have a right to be slimy, lying leftist Marxists who hate America.  And the follow-up point is also true &#8212; that Republicans have been extremely cowardly and craven in response.</p>
<p>I say with you, make the bbbstards pay, hard.  And I do blame them as the primary culprit in the downfall of the GOP and the ascension of this despicable crowd that now runs our nation and desires, post-haste, to drive it into the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... what do you imagine their responsibility is? Let me answer that; none. The First Amendment&#039;s &quot;Freedom of the Press&quot; clause applies to them no more and no less than it applies to you, which means they have no more responsibility than you do to tell the truth or be impartial relayers of fact.

In fact, looking at the history of journalism in America the idea of a non-partisan objective Press is relatively recent. Most, if not all, newspapers began their lives as party organs. i.e. one of the first things any new political party in 1700s and 1800s would do at its inception was establish a network of newspapers and staff them with loyalists. How do you imagine those papers reported the stories of the day/week/month/year?

The issue now is that what&#039;s old is new again; the days of the partisan Press are back, and the GOP has been caught flat-footed. Most of Big Media - from the Big Three networks to the nation&#039;s major national, regional and state newspapers - is now owned, run and staffed almost exclusively by liberals, Democrats and people who contribute to Democrats. Naturally they would pass on Democratic talking points as facts and be cheerleaders for liberal candidates and agendas. 

I don&#039;t begrudge them that because I believe in private property and the First Amendment. 

The responsibility falls on us to make them pay. And we haven&#039;t even begun to do that. The only time a Republican made the effort was the speech given by Spiro Agnew in Des Moines nearly &lt;b&gt;forty years&lt;/b&gt; ago. Reagan was content to simply go around them instead of challenging them directly. Bush I and II didn&#039;t even bother to do that and they both ended up being filleted.

After all this time, the fact that the GOP continues to operate as if we have a Press Corps that is not anything but an adjunct of the DNC by the time it gets to campaign season (and a PR ally before that) that we have to force our message through is now entirely our fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; what do you imagine their responsibility is? Let me answer that; none. The First Amendment&#8217;s &#8220;Freedom of the Press&#8221; clause applies to them no more and no less than it applies to you, which means they have no more responsibility than you do to tell the truth or be impartial relayers of fact.</p>
<p>In fact, looking at the history of journalism in America the idea of a non-partisan objective Press is relatively recent. Most, if not all, newspapers began their lives as party organs. i.e. one of the first things any new political party in 1700s and 1800s would do at its inception was establish a network of newspapers and staff them with loyalists. How do you imagine those papers reported the stories of the day/week/month/year?</p>
<p>The issue now is that what&#8217;s old is new again; the days of the partisan Press are back, and the GOP has been caught flat-footed. Most of Big Media &#8211; from the Big Three networks to the nation&#8217;s major national, regional and state newspapers &#8211; is now owned, run and staffed almost exclusively by liberals, Democrats and people who contribute to Democrats. Naturally they would pass on Democratic talking points as facts and be cheerleaders for liberal candidates and agendas. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t begrudge them that because I believe in private property and the First Amendment. </p>
<p>The responsibility falls on us to make them pay. And we haven&#8217;t even begun to do that. The only time a Republican made the effort was the speech given by Spiro Agnew in Des Moines nearly <b>forty years</b> ago. Reagan was content to simply go around them instead of challenging them directly. Bush I and II didn&#8217;t even bother to do that and they both ended up being filleted.</p>
<p>After all this time, the fact that the GOP continues to operate as if we have a Press Corps that is not anything but an adjunct of the DNC by the time it gets to campaign season (and a PR ally before that) that we have to force our message through is now entirely our fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever heard of &quot;New Tone&quot;? 

As of January 2005, Bush had 55 Senators and 231 Representatives wearing Rs behind their names. His Treasury Secretary, like his predecessor had done in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that year came before Congress to complain about the danger to the economy posed by the two GSEs. 

Democrats, of course, like they&#039;d done before, went ape that a cash cow of theirs was being threatened with oversight and of course, Republicans in Congress, particularly our &quot;moderates&quot;, desiring nothing more than to be loved by their friends across the aisle (and invited to their swanky cocktail parties), backed down.

And as for Bush, he followed the &quot;New Tone&quot; philosophy, which posits that the American people desire nothing more than to see Democrats and Republicans holding hands and singing Kumbayah in DC. He also backs down, and continued to back down over the next two years until it all came crashing down around his head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever heard of &#8220;New Tone&#8221;? </p>
<p>As of January 2005, Bush had 55 Senators and 231 Representatives wearing Rs behind their names. His Treasury Secretary, like his predecessor had done in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that year came before Congress to complain about the danger to the economy posed by the two GSEs. </p>
<p>Democrats, of course, like they&#8217;d done before, went ape that a cash cow of theirs was being threatened with oversight and of course, Republicans in Congress, particularly our &#8220;moderates&#8221;, desiring nothing more than to be loved by their friends across the aisle (and invited to their swanky cocktail parties), backed down.</p>
<p>And as for Bush, he followed the &#8220;New Tone&#8221; philosophy, which posits that the American people desire nothing more than to see Democrats and Republicans holding hands and singing Kumbayah in DC. He also backs down, and continued to back down over the next two years until it all came crashing down around his head.</p>
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		<title>By: VanishingNYRep</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/ctvoter2010/2009/01/08/rove-relays-rarely-reported-reality/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>VanishingNYRep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are not getting it.  McCain never raised the issue because he doesn&#039;t and can not talk economics.  He is a national security guy.  He votes conservatively on economic issue because he doesn&#039;t know what else to do.  There is no way he could have debated this isssue without making a fool of himself.

As for President Bush, he never insisted on reforming the GSEs because he was too preoccupied with the Iraq and Afganistan wars.  Moreover, he never fought back against the Dems on any issue.  I beleive that this was a result of the VP&#039;s advise that good policy is good politicas and that he shouldn&#039;t worry about bad press.  Anyone who has ever runa campaign knows that in the ordianry person&#039;s mind, the unanswered attack, not matter how farfetched becomes the truth.  Witness the Katrina fiasco and the &quot;Bush doesn&#039;t like black people&quot; lie.  I am still mazed that people actually beleived it but they did and it was because the Administration didn&#039;t respond to its critics.

As onservatives, we must take the fight to the liberal-dems at every level: School Board, City Council, county Comm, State Legislature.  It is okay to fight and lose and election.  Let&#039;s not let the liberal-Dems win by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not getting it.  McCain never raised the issue because he doesn&#8217;t and can not talk economics.  He is a national security guy.  He votes conservatively on economic issue because he doesn&#8217;t know what else to do.  There is no way he could have debated this isssue without making a fool of himself.</p>
<p>As for President Bush, he never insisted on reforming the GSEs because he was too preoccupied with the Iraq and Afganistan wars.  Moreover, he never fought back against the Dems on any issue.  I beleive that this was a result of the VP&#8217;s advise that good policy is good politicas and that he shouldn&#8217;t worry about bad press.  Anyone who has ever runa campaign knows that in the ordianry person&#8217;s mind, the unanswered attack, not matter how farfetched becomes the truth.  Witness the Katrina fiasco and the &#8220;Bush doesn&#8217;t like black people&#8221; lie.  I am still mazed that people actually beleived it but they did and it was because the Administration didn&#8217;t respond to its critics.</p>
<p>As onservatives, we must take the fight to the liberal-dems at every level: School Board, City Council, county Comm, State Legislature.  It is okay to fight and lose and election.  Let&#8217;s not let the liberal-Dems win by default.</p>
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