I say fine go ahead with your DADT repeal, with one provision added to the law repealing it, the language should read as follows: “Any current member of the United States Armed Forces who feels that the inclusions of homosexuals in the military goes against their religious and moral beliefs can ask for and be granted immediate honorable discharge”.
I also think they should add the same provision that “No openly gay member shall serve in forward combat operation units” they believe they were born the wrong sex then let them follow the same rules as the female members of our military have about combat operations.
If we can “discriminate” against female military personnel by restricting which MOS they can work in, then that same should apply to openly gay members of the armed forces.
When I served there were individuals that we suspected of being homosexual, no actions were taken because they lived their life and I lived mine and as long as it stays that way there will be no problems, but what do you think happens the first time a homosexual soldiers approaches a straight soldier mistakenly assuming their sexual status? Can you say a beat down outside an E-Club? Can you say court martial? How many unstable PFC Manning’s would the military have to deal with? Sailors on subs? Sailors on carriers? It is an ambulance chasing lawyer hell hole just asking to be gone down.
The military should not be used as a social experiment, their job is to close with and destroy the enemies of the United States.
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An alternative suggestion would be for.....
Wubbies World (Diary) Wednesday, December 1st at 1:59PM EST (link)… requiring all showers and latrines become unisex. There will be no separate gender facilities if DADT is repealed.
I say that knowing full well it won’t happen.
As a retired military member, if I have to worry about being stared by a gay man in the shower, then women can share in that fun too. Yes, I know that lesbians bring that to the female side of it, but I am of the opinion that if DADT is repealed, then everyone can share in the pain it will bring.
This suggestion is just made solely to highlight the human behavioral psychological component that this entire issue presents. It is not a serious suggestion. Until the basic human behavioral psychological issues are addressed, this is a bad idea across the board from a military moral standpoint.
However, this is only my opinion. I served with people who I knew were gay, buy it was kept private and no issues were created. They were my friends and I have no issue with it. Once you are in battle field situation and gender type considerations are brought into the picture, there will be issues – big issues. That is the problem that needs to be addressed.
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Randy (Diary) Wednesday, December 1st at 2:29PM EST (link)I imagine before we are through we can come up with a whole list of “shared” sacrifice to repeal DADT.
The only reason I would be against the repeal..
brycerow Thursday, December 2nd at 11:22AM EST (link)Is that there are people in the military who will act maliciously to those who are openly gay in the military. In a perfecty world I see no problem with gay, straight and whatever serving together, so long as both (gays and straights) keep their private life, private. However there is still a great deal of hatred towards homosexuals and regardless of what the laws mandate I could foresee a great deal of ‘gay bashing’ in the military towards not only homosexuals but just those who might be mistakingly percieved as homosexuals. Suspicion and violence is not something we need in our military ranks right now no matter how backwards and discriminating not allowing openly gay men and women from serving may seem to the American public and to other countries who already allow openly gay men and women to serve might look at it. It’s simply not the best time to try it out.