What if she wins?


It’s a simple question, but what happens if Ms. O’Donnell wins in November?

I’m actually curious to have a discussion on what it says if a very red candidate wins in a very blue state? Thoughts? This is a discussion we’ve had around the office and I’m curious what the RedState Community has to say……..



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johnconradarens (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 9:54AM EST (link)

…so who knows. I think there is a slight-to-significant chance that there will be a Conservative-Tea Party blow-out in November that marginalizing it in the culture will be impossible. In that case, O’Donnell will simply be part of the wave, and it means a tectonic realignment of conventional wisdom (think Scott Brown), and O’Donnell better get her butt in gear to prune the federal leviathan.

If, on the other hand, O’Donnell wins, and several other high-profile conservative grass-roots candidates lose (think Angle or Miller), then her victory will be seen not so much a victory for her, but a defeat of the Marxist whack-job she’s running against. Rasmussen has the race this morning at 52%-43% for the Marxist, so O’Donnell’s victory is very much within reach, and the more Delaware learns about this Marxist, the more they will be repelled by him. Remember, in Massachusetts, Coakley was up some 30% over Scott Brown a scant month before the election, and it wasn’t even close in the end.

In short, if she wins, as when every Conservative wins, the popular culture will trash her, marginalize her, smear her, belittle her and so on. Hopefully, though, there will be enough O’Donnell’s winning that night that it won’t matter.

 

Agreed

Randy (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 10:02AM EST (link)

I agree totally that if she wins the “mainstream” including some Republicans (think Rove) will continue their attacks and no one will ever say it was the conservative idea’s that won. And ultimately I think that is the great tragedy in these type races, it has become less about idea’s and more about who can make the opponent “unelectable”.

Not necessarily. The RINOs have good survival instincts.

acat (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 10:48AM EST (link)

They’ll figure out pretty quickly that the way to get ahead is to make Conservative noises. That’s how so many slipped into place immediately after the Reagan Revolution and the Contract With America movement.

They look and sound about right, but .. once they get to D.C. and realize they’re bigshots …

This is the real challenge we face – not that there are RINOs, but how to identify them and keep them from taking over – how to keep this conservative wave from receding.

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Someone who knows Delaware

Randy (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 10:03AM EST (link)

How blue is it, I mean we know it’s democrat, but is it leftist blue or pragmatic “country” blue like some area’s of the southern U.S.

It's very unlike the south

cordpt Thursday, September 16th at 10:52AM EST (link)

It’s a blue state, but not blue in the way that, say, California or even Massachusetts are.

More than blue or red, Delaware is Duponist, after governor Pierre du Pont IV (from the family that owns the chemical company). He outlined a political view that it’s still pretty much the norm for most people in Delaware – fiscal conservatism, low taxes, pro-business, very appreciative of bi-partisanship and a low key, but progressive, view on social issues. Basically, what’s good for DuPont and for the banks it’s good for Delaware. So pretty much every Delaware politician resembles the other. There’s basically one political party in Delaware (at least one that wins elections). That’s why you can see things like a republican like Castle and a democrat like Carper swapping places (when Castle replaced Carper in the Congress and was replaced by him as a governor). For this same reason, it’s extremely rare to see an incumbent losing elections in Delaware. I think the only one in the last 30 years or so was Bill Roth. They tolerated Roth for decades when he was a lot taxes warrior in Washington but once he voted for Clinton’s impeachment, he was voted out of the office.

That’s basically it. Unlike what happens in many blue states, in DE people don’t like taxes and government regulations, they tolerate safety nets, they tend to be progressive/moderate on social issues (except in one county, Sussex).

Make no mistake though

cordpt Thursday, September 16th at 10:58AM EST (link)

The consensus is Delaware is more pro-business than exactly pro-free market.

 

I actually agree with you about something

pilgrim (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 11:27AM EST (link)

Delaware is not Massachusetts. The people in DE don’t like more taxes and more government regulations.

I really think the voters in DE voted Castle out of office for his cap & trade vote.


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Randy (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 12:41PM EST (link)

Thanks for clearing it up, mostly here in the south (southern Arkansas) you get Democrats who are more socially conservative and more big government as this is a very poor area, I was just trying to clarify in my mind the differences. A lot of ear marks this way for ag industry.

 
 
 
 

While difficult, not impossible.

logus (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 10:32AM EST (link)

Look directly north to New Jersey. Chris Christie is quite conservative on any number of issues and a Republican, and he won the governorship in a quite blue state.

Blue isn’t always blue, so much as purple – or rather blue-violet as many Republicans have won state offices before in New Jersey and Delaware (as Mike Castle attests).

So it’s evident that citizens of Delaware don’t have a problem voting for a Republican. It’s whether they are willing to vote for a considerably conservative Republican.

And as others have noted, Brown won after having been quite low in the polls – though he’s certainly purple in a blue state. And, no doubt, O’Donnell and any other conservative “Tea Party” candidate is going to get trashed in the media if they win in November.

I wonder if Dick Armey and Freedom Works – who put on the 9/12 Tea Party event in DC – will come out with major egg on his face in November for evidently going with the political game over principles. As far as I can tell, he’s still not backing O’Donnell because she’s not winnable. Huh?!

Frankly, screw political strategery. Principles all the way, even if it means assured failure.

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Well Dick Armey already has some egg on his face

Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 11:32AM EST (link)

that being the Gubernatorial Primary here in Texas this year were he back Kay Baliey Hutchinson. He did what other current and former federal office holders did, back one of their own. A very stupid move if you ask me. I think that O’Donnell can win, since you can work on your opponents record of messing up. Having O’Donnell in the Senate isn’t a bad idea and hopefully will make the senate a better place. BTW, Rasmussen has O’Donnell back 11% to coon in current poll. One or 2 visits by Boss Reid should bring up the numbers for O’Donnell.

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Randy (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 12:43PM EST (link)

I do think your NJ item brings something to the front, but I also think that something that may help Ms. O’Donnell is the fact that ALL the beltway types from both parties are jumping on her personally and it sounds like the folks from DE won’t put up with that to well, and may make her the ultimate “outsider” in this election, should be a fun next few weeks.

 
 
 

New Poll

Randy (Diary) Wednesday, October 27th at 11:44AM EST (link)

Admittedly it’s inside polling, but if she is actually within 6 points five days out, is it actually possible that she can win? We’ve all noticed that “The One” and “The Dud” have spent a lot of time there and now he is actually running attack ad’s …. crazier things and all that….