Mike Lee cancels debate hosted by Lonsberry
Cherilyn Eagar challenges him to man up and show what he’s got
SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH, March 5, 2010. Yesterday morning should’ve been a banner day for the Eagar or Lee senate campaigns, with one camp boasting of a clear victory in a one-on-one debate on KNRS talk radio. This much-anticipated clash of titans, to be hosted by Bob Lonsberry, was cancelled when Mike Lee withdrew without explanation.
Lee and Eagar were invited to debate on Utah’s top conservative talk radio show, a challenge readily accepted by both. Eagar went so far as to accommodate Lee’s schedule for March 4 during the 8:00 a.m. segment. On Tuesday, March 2, Lee had a sudden attack of the vapors and backed out.
Eagar and Lee are the challengers most often given the best chance to unseat 3-term incumbent Bob Bennett. Neither, however, is yet viewed as certain to win, so this face-to-face was a key moment: With hundreds of political junkies listening, it was a perfect chance for one to draw supporters away from the other and to win still-undecided voters.
In announcing the event-that-wasn’t, Lonsberry said, “I thought these two, head to head, side by side, would be useful.” Lonsberry, like Eagar, accommodated Lee’s choice of date. “And, then . . . the Mike Lee campaign withdrew. Why withdraw? Well, not really an answer. And, one answer that was given may have been for an event that, actually, upon verification, wasn’t taking place. So, he just decided not to come. And, you know, so, we said to Mrs. Eagar, ‘The other guy backed out’.” Stating that he is not a fan of either contender, Lonsberry added, “I’m typically not impressed by a fellow who runs away from a fight, and I find, typically, the fellow who says, ‘I don’t want to fight,’ is not the one who would’ve won the fight. You know what I mean?” He also made a point of Lee’s refusal to reschedule.
“If Mike Lee was serious about winning this election,” said one caller, “he’d want every opportunity to get his message out . . . If he was unprepared, he shouldn’t be running.”
Another caller wondered if Lee was like the “high school kid who trained for wrestling, gets down on the mat, looks up and realizes he has to wrestle a girl . . . ‘Now, what? What if she beats me?’ . . . instead of getting out there and fighting a good fight and doing the best he can, whether she wins or loses, he knows he fought the best fight. Why not try? He doesn’t want to try, he just kinda’ gives up.”
It is apparent that the Lee campaign does not want a live debate in a public forum such as the Bob Lonsberry Show. What is Mr. Lee hiding? Why pull out of a wonderful opportunity for the voters to hear him and see what his supporters have been raving about?
Cherilyn Eagar’s challenge to Mike Lee remains open. She is ready to debate Lee live on Lonsberry’s show. “I ask Mr. Lee to join me,” she said, “to stand up like a man and debate me.”
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utah_liberty Friday, March 5th at 2:51PM EST (link)I find it interesting that Mrs. Eagar’s vernacular consists of taunts such as “stand up like a man”. I would expect more from a “conservative woman” running for the U.S. Senate.
I’ve been fortunate enough to be able to attend a couple debates already between the candidates, and Mike has performed extremely well in all. To inflate this “clash of titans” to create controversy where little exists shows how little substance the rest of Mrs. Eagar’s campaign really has.
It has become increasingly clear in recent weeks that Eagar’s campaign depends upon tearing Mike’s down. Mike is getting the national attention Eagar so desperately wants, and I’m told by one staffer that he is receiving donations, endorsements, and volunteer and delegate commitments from hundreds and hundreds of people. His campaign has momentum; Mrs. Eagar’s has leech-like dependency. Mike has one, two, sometimes three campaign events daily, drawing anywhere from dozens to hundreds of people; Mrs. Eagar depends heavily on “group events” to get a sizable crowd interested in attending. As I stand on the sideline and observe the candidates, their staff, and volunteer/supporters, I remain convinced that Mike Lee will be the only one able to unseat Bob Bennett.
The fact that Mrs. Eagar’s sights are set so heavily on Mike shows that she is concerned about his campaign and sees him as a political threat. Rightly so, in this commenter’s opinion.
Free or Fair Trade...
arc_ut (Diary) Friday, March 5th at 5:50PM EST (link)A scheduling conflict was one possible reason. Lee told a reporter that is was that the others running weren’t going to be on the show.
Perhaps the Lonsberry discussion of Fair vs Free trade was part of the reason Lonsberry was dropped by Lee.
Lee wouldn’t reschedule at the time. As far as Lonsberry, he wouldn’t. Eagar will go up against one of the other candidates.
Backwards
becounted Saturday, March 6th at 4:26PM EST (link)It seems to me that you have things backwrds, just as in this vitrolic post, it is yourself and other Lee proponents that are tearing others down. Since you all cannot persuade with honest argument, you resort to name-calling and trying to smear the opponent. Clearly it was Lee that refused to debate the issues.
I never see anything in these blogs where Eagar supporters are being nasty to Lee, only Lee supporters being nasty to Eagar. You are the ones running a negative campaign — over nothing. How much are you getting paid? And tell me, how is Energy Solutions doing for good ‘ole Mikie? How is that working out for youi guys?
Utah needs a principled Senator. One that is willing to debate the issues and stay focused on the issues. And that really isn’t Lee.
At this point I might favor Bennett over Eagar (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, March 5th at 2:52PM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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Politics 101
baronphoenix Saturday, March 6th at 12:13PM EST (link)A campaign is not about getting along, it’s about demonstrating that you are better than your competitors.
I hear that 90% of winning is showing up. Eagar has been doing that for almost a year. Lee intentionally didn’t show until January because he was betting other challengers would wear themselves out before he got in. (I know that because Lee said it to me personally.) Eagar may be a little sleep-deprived these days, but she’s far from worn out.
Eagar has been in this race since June — I saw her first call for volunteers — and she has consistently shown up at major events (last year’s GOP state convention), medium events (lots of Lincoln day dinners) and hundreds of small events (neighborhood and precinct meetings with a dozen or two dozen attending).
Favor Bennett over Eagar? Favor an abortion funder over the woman who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade? Favor one of the most liberal Republicans in the Senate over the potential only conservative woman in the Senate? Favor the status quo over the real changes America wants and needs? You must be joking.
Give facts, not just innuendo
davidmiller Friday, March 5th at 3:35PM EST (link)I can’t tell if these words came from Bob Lonsberry or from Cherilyn Eagar but since this was posted by Cherilyn I’d like to ask her to clarify what was meant by:
“And, one answer that was given may have been for an event that, actually, upon verification, wasn’t taking place.”
If this verification has been done thenplease tell us what non-existent event Mike used to excuse himself – or is this a classic case of the angry underdog twisting the facts to suit herself.
This dominant confrontational tone from the Eagar campaign is one of the things that has made me like her less than Bennett.
"...an event that, actually, upon verification, wasn't taking place"
justcase Friday, March 5th at 6:11PM EST (link)davidmiller:
This comment came from Mr. Lonsberry himself. It is a recorded interview that you can download for yourself. It was also played on:
http://bit.ly/bCwzW9. Bob says it much better than I can.
As far as I’m concerned, Mike is out of the race. I like Cherilyn’s principled stances taking on Mike Lee at his time.
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jstanard Friday, March 5th at 3:55PM EST (link)I see so much more attack and negativity from the Eager campaign then from any other, and it is really starting to turn people off.
One thing I greatly appreciate about Mike Lee is his commitment to not try and tear down any other candidates. As he says, he does not call them opponents, he calls them colleagues. This of course does not include Senator Bennett.
Positivity will win over negativity, I am certain of that. Mike Lee is an incredible candidate. He has shown VERY strongly at every event I have seen all the candidates speak at (4 or 5 now). He can hold his own, quite well, and I am convinced he is the best candidate for the job.
I also agree with the sentiment that Mike Lee is the only candidate gaining national recognition and ground, and the other campaigns are fearful and jealous of that. That is why we see these types of comments.
Utah, and the United States NEEDS Mike Lee for the US Senate for 2010. If you have not seen Mike Lee speak, find out when he will be near you and go do it. Make up your own mind.
My concerns re: Lee
suze1229 Friday, March 5th at 11:00PM EST (link)Mike Lee is appears to be a decent man. But I don’t see his professional experience showing how “the United States NEEDS Mike Lee for the US Sentate…”
To be perfectly honest, the last thing we need back in Washington is one more attorney. It is great that Mike got to clerk for a Supreme Court judge. And Mike seems very plugged into the Washington scene. And when I hear he promises not to serve longer than 18 years, I don’t feel particularly comforted. I fear that he may be just another Bennett in the making.
Connections to Energy Solutions, that Lee has in common with Bennett, are also a source of concern for me. Energy Solutions has been far too involved in the political process. It would be refreshing to see a candidate refuse to take any contributions from corporate America. Perhaps Lee has done this; if so, he is to be commended.
I have heard Lee speak on a few different occasions. He is competent enough in that regard.
It would also be interesting to see an accounting of where Lee’s campaign contributions are coming from. If someone could direct me to where it is listed, I would be appreciative. As I understand, it is because of the timing of when Lee finally decided to make his candidacy official, the financial statements won’t be available until into April.
It is not my intent to attack or be perceived as negative. These are just my concerns about the candidacy of Lee.
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Interesting that you say...
baronphoenix Saturday, March 6th at 12:32PM EST (link)… Lee is the only candidate gaining national ground. How can you judge that, except by endorsements? In fact, he has only one — former Rep. Dick Armey, to which most of us reply, “Dick who?”
Eagar, on the other hand, has a number of impressive nods: Phyllis Schlafly, who is more responsible than any single person for the defeat of the ERA; Glenn Kimber of the Thomas Jefferson Center; Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher; Independent Conservatives [www.indycons.net]; 912 Candidates [www.912candidates.org] and Art Wayland’s “912 Truck Project.”
Check out those people and be impressed — be very impressed!
Fact or Fiction
solutions Friday, March 5th at 5:51PM EST (link)Why did this sound like an Eager Add?
Mike is very prepared. He has a confident voice. He is very informed. I spoke with Mike last night and asked him about this situation. It was pointed out that he debated with Eager several times already. His staff did give a full explanation of the schedule conflict but Lonsberry neglected that part. Lonsberry is famous for stirring up confrontations. He is about ratings and not searching for truth. Again partial truths were given. I would NOT listen to Lonsberry. I don’t have time to waste on half truths. I have too many important things to do with my time.
True, but
baronphoenix Saturday, March 6th at 12:35PM EST (link)It’s true that Lee did give a full explanation of his absence — full of holes.
You want a "nice guy" representing you?
justcase Friday, March 5th at 6:26PM EST (link)I find it interesting reading comments about how Cherilyn is on the “attack” or is “aggressive”. It seems to me that’s exactly who you want in Washington fighting for your issues and causes. What’s that old saying? “Nice guys finish last”.
Here’s another interesting set of facts with regard to why Mike Lee bowed out of this debate:
1. At first, he gave no reason
2. Then he said he had a prior engagement
3. Then that engagement was proven to be false
4. Then he’s now stated that he didn’t go on because he wanted to be “fair” and only debate with all the candidates. Right. If that was the case, wouldn’t it have been more credible to say it up front rather than go through all this humiliation?
Pick your excuse . . . none of them work for me. I don’t care if you like Lonsberry or not. It’s the principle that doesn’t impress me. I thought he was suppose to be this knight in shining armor. Hmmm. Guess not.
I want a fighter, a winner and someone who is not afraid of getting into the ring. I want someone that is willing to get dirty even if the fight isn’t “fair”. Mike, did you know that Congress doesn’t play “fair”?
Volcano
mking Friday, March 5th at 6:28PM EST (link)I’m disappointed in the way Eagar’s campaign has been running. She spends too much time taking shots at other candidates and it makes her appear weak. She needs to stand upon her own merits rather than tear down others. Clear back when Shurtleff entered the race she was doing this. It strikes me as a selfish move. Other campaigns have avoided negativity because they all know that whoever ends up running against Bennett in a primary (a likely situation) will need all the help they can get. If the opponents tear each other down before the primary it will only help Bennett in the end. It seems to me that Eagar is more interested in being a Senator than in making real change. Lee probably backed out so as not to make her look foolish.
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"Lee probably backed out so as not to make her look foolish"
justcase Friday, March 5th at 8:36PM EST (link)You have GOT to be kidding me. Mr. Nice Guy is now not only concerned about being “fair”, but is now concerned about making her look “foolish”?
It appears that all the Lee “converts” are making up excuses for him to protect his “clean” status.
When is the last time you saw Michelle Bachman be very sweet and nice? She’s tough and agressive and is why she gets so much air time. I’ll bet you hate Sarah Palin too. We need more women in the Senate who will stand up against the liberal left. We don’t need “nice guys”.
SHILL cleanup on aisle 5!
barry915barry (Diary) Friday, March 5th at 9:54PM EST (link)JUST “a shill for Eaga”r, in CASE you didn’t know! Wow, you have made quite the impression these last two months, JC.. You caught the big guys attention with your very first posted comment….
(http://www.redstate.com/cherilyneagar/2010/01/05/cherilyn-eagar-calls-for-end-of-political-back-room-deals/#comment-28)
an attempted thread-jack just a couple of days ago….albeit a pretty weak one seeing as it was 8 days after the fact!
(http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/02/23/save-the-date-march-23-2010-we-begin-taking-back-the-gop/#comment-58808)
And non-stop rhetoric, with only supporting link in 11 posts.
You previously wrote: “Here’s another interesting set of facts with regard to why Mike Lee bowed out of this debate:
1. At first, he gave no reason
2. Then he said he had a prior engagement
3. Then that engagement was proven to be false
4. Then he’s now stated that he didn’t go on because he wanted to be “fair” and only debate with all the candidates.”
Do you by chance have any links that actually SUPPORT your conjecture?
JC……As a member of the Eagar staff, I was wondering……..are you well paid?? You are ONE TOPIC poster. Hmmmmmm, either from the campaign, or perhaps just a “bit” obsessive.
I was hoping that perhaps in the future you might consider actually posting something substantive, WITH SUPPORTING LINKS.
In the mean time, at least be honest enough to acknowledge your obvious ties to the Eagar campaign.
Lee did WHAT???
baronphoenix Saturday, March 6th at 12:40PM EST (link)“Lee probably backed out so as not to make her look foolish.”
Really? That worked well — all he did was make himself look foolish. By the way, when Lee and Eagar have appeared together, Mike Lee has done a lot of things, but making Cherilyn Eagar look foolish has never been one f them.
(And if he had, more power to him! That’s part of his job as a candidate.)
Chill out
jbburr Friday, March 5th at 9:15PM EST (link)This is one of those “tempest in a teapot” things. Mike Lee agreed, on the spot when Lonsberry asked him to participate. At that time,Mike could not access his iPhone to look at the schedule to confirm, and made some assumptions. Later, when he found out he had a prior commitment, he called to cancel. Simple as that. Rest assured that Mike Lee is not afraid to debate Ms. Eager, or anyone else. Mr. Lee does that for a living, and does it very well. Ms. Eager ought to be the one grateful for the cancellation it seems to me. Then, of course, Lonsberry is right on the spot to make a bigger deal of it than it really was, in reality. A simple conflict of schedule. There will be plenty of times later to square off in a verbal debate. Count on it.
Interesting
baronphoenix Saturday, March 6th at 12:29PM EST (link)That you should say he backed out because of a prior commitment. Lonsberry says that it doesn’t appear he had one. Interesting that you say he agreed on the spot. Were you actually at that spot with him? Did you not hear that Lonsberry suggested Tuesday, Lee said he couldn’t and both Lonsberry and Eagar shifted their schedules to accommodate Lee? That must have taken several phone calls, at least, to arrange, during which, according to you, Lee never checked his iPhone or his handlers and didn’t know what his schedule was.
Sad sad showing by Lee, no matter how you slice it.
Biased Much?
lordjeb Friday, March 5th at 10:58PM EST (link)This article seems like very one-sided reporting. No response from Mike Lee’s campaign? No attempt to even contact them? Links to the Eagar campaign at the bottom. I think this belongs on the Eagar campaign, not masquerading as news.
On the flip side, I would love to see a Lee/Eagar debate as I have no doubt which would come out looking better. Lee is a very smart, Constitutionally sound candidate, and he presents himself that way. I’ve only hear Eagar speak a few times, but in my humble opinion she doesn’t come off very well.
Um
Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, March 5th at 11:10PM EST (link)The article is posted BY Cherilyn Eagar. One expects it to represent her and her campaign.
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Halliburton!
Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, March 5th at 11:09PM EST (link)Oh wait
Energy Solutions!
Eeeevil! Down with Cheney! er, Lee!
Eeevil!
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EnergySolutions
arc_ut (Diary) Saturday, March 6th at 6:38PM EST (link)Harry Reid and Bob Bennett are both taking campaign funding from EnergySolutions,
Cherilyn Eagar isn’t opposed to ES existing, nor properly storing Utah’s hazardous waste, or perhaps hazardous waste from another state, providing we have some control over it. (Saftey).
Lee is stating that Rep. Jason Chaffetz is wrong to co-sign a bill that stops it at the federal level, and saying Utah can’t stop it at their level.
Bennett, who has got $50,000 from ES, et all for campaign funding for this race period, is sitting on the bill that passed the house.
Lee may not be getting campagin funding from ES, and has stated he has not. We can’t read the FEC report as he planned for at least 2 months to announce after the FEC quarterly filing deadline so we don’t get to see his report until after the state caucus meeting.
We do know he is the attorney representing ES to bring the Italy waste to Utah. He knew that some had issue with this prior to announcing he was in the US Senate Race.
At least we can see if this is a big deal with the delegates prior to convention, and not wait to find out if it is a big deal with the voters later and get a democrat to replace Bob Bennett.
Well, this has been fun.
baronphoenix Saturday, March 6th at 12:42PM EST (link)Seriously, I have never had so much fun replying to comments on this website. I want to thank Lee’s people for giving me so much to work with.
Well, have a life, gotta’ get back to it.
Is there something peculiar in the water in Utah?
janis (Diary) Saturday, March 6th at 12:55PM EST (link)Because so many of the ones who show up here to shill for their candidate are just plain obnoxious. Although that could be because so many of them seem to be either working for a campaign and lying about it, or they truly have no idea how to present information on their candidate without being offensive to pretty much everyone else on the site.
I thought Utah was loaded with nice folks. How come RedState keeps getting so many of the other kind?