I wonder what other parents would think if they knew the teacher was indoctrinating their children that post-9/11 patriotism was all about hating muslims. maybe you should write them all a letter.

about our country, the truth, and politics as you are, Cameron. No matter what happens, stand fast with your beliefs. You’re a great addition to RedState.

And your teacher should be fired from their position for subverting the truth and indoctrinating the students. We’ll be interested to hear what your principal has to say to you about it. Keep us informed, please.

…unless you take a stand. I’m not telling you to be belligerent or get yourself in trouble, but if your class is in a debate, don’t EVER let something like that go, because an idea like that isn’t some obscure philosophical concept–it’s tantamount to calling people like you and I racist.

Senior year of college, I got into a similar debate in a seminar class. I brought up the fact that rallying to patriotism after 9/11 was due to love of country, not hatred aimed at another group of people. For the next HOUR, I proceeded to defend myself as my professor and several of my classmates had a go at me for being an emotional racist. In the end I won, but then again, you can get away with A LOT more in college.

Good luck with your principal. Your teacher should not be allowed to get away with this kind of garbage.

that Clinton did not bomb Iraq I got her email address sent her a link from his bombing in 98 and TOLD her to get her facts straight before telling a bunch of students a lie. It is only when WE stand up to these LIARS and call them by name that WE will win the argument. WE must never pretend this is just a fluke this is happening everyday in every classroom around the nation.

My suggestion is to always have a recording device to get them on tape!

Do you have a campaign manager yet?

I wish I could say I’m surprised, but I’m not.

In your next few years of schooling, you’re going to get more of this type of “logic” and “information”. As Amy said, don’t get yourself in trouble when arguing these points, but do keep arguing them. Make sure you keep calm when pointing out such fallacies as “America’s hatred for Islam”, you’ll lose in a shouting match (in more ways than one). Make sure that facts are on your side and stick to your guns. You’ll do fine.

Also, be aware that in some cases, disagreeing politically with the teacher or professor will get you a low or failing grade in your class. But at least in college, you can retake a class with a different instructor for a higher grade. Just remember that your principles and honestly are more important than your GPA. If your parents are conservatives too, and you explain what is happening, they’ll agree.

I pray that they are as wise and courageous as you.

Young man, stay the course, and perhaps, someday, consider a career in politics. Already you show more wisdom than nearly all of the Democrats.

Take Care, mailloux

Not to characterise a group (several of my best friends are teachers!), but many public school teachers are some of the most uneducated people I have ever known, with a frightening lack of intellectual curiousity about the world and reality. The best and the brightest do not come from education colleges…

I can imagine what you must have to go through with teachers like that. I remember when I was in school, the teachers were actually smarter than the kids. Teach your teachers, grasshopper. You give me hope — I mean the good kind.

Thank you all for all of your replies. The teacher later talked to me about it. He said i seemed upset which is why he wanted to talk to me. He said hat there are many different sides of that argument and that no one meant it in a mean-spirited way. He also explained that he “hopes” that Americans came together for love of their country instead of hate, but he said that most likely hate is the reason Americans congregated together. I disagreed, then he told me that i couldn’t prove my point. Then i said that we are America. He didn’t have a response to that.

That took a lot of courage for you to stand up to your teacher and to your class. Color me impressed. Oh, and by the way, excellent diary.

Good for you! Diary recommended.

I’m dating myself here, but back in my high school days, I had a history teacher who spent six weeks on the Viet Nam War. Our only grade for the entire period was on one essay — we had to write a paper comparing the Viet Nam War to the Civil War. And that paper had to reflect her views, or it would earn a poor grade.

This teacher spent six weeks not teaching the history of either war, but with opining daily how the Viet Nam War was a civil war across the Pacific in which America had no business interfering. America was wrong; we were imperialist warmongers; and our soldiers were babykillers.

There was no mention of French Indochina or of how Ho Chi Mihn came to Truman after WWII and asked for American support against the reimposition of French colonialism; no mention of how he was turned away (to suck up to DeGaulle for some inexplicable reason) and thus pushed into the arms of the Chinese communists; no discussion of the corrupt South Vietnamese regime — nor, on the other side, any mention of the way American servicemen’s hands were tied by ridiculous rules of engagement, or the treatment of our POWs at the hands of the Viet Cong and NVN; or the politics of “escalation”…. I could go on and on. None of that did I learn in her classroom, however.

Nope; I only began to learn all that years after, when I spent 20 years with a man who was at Long Bihn when it was overrun at Tet; when the guy with the key to the ammo was in town; when they had to call in for permission to fire back at snipers trying to kill them in the guard towers.

I digress; but my teacher was committed to spending six weeks turning her class into anti-war protesters who would march on the Pentagon or the White House. Her message was that my country was wrong.

That was over 30 years ago. Some things never change.

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We came together because of hatred? I would have never in a million years come to that conclusion and am quite surprised anyone else would.

We judge others by knowledge of ourselves.

If you steal, you think others steal….

“… the reason Americans congregated is out of love for our country.” Cameron3332, you have wisdom. So many, much older than you, teachers included, have never had or uttered a quotable thought.

When I discuss 911 in the future, I will quote your wise words. Thanks!

but he just had a disagreement with you. His opinion is faulty and he couldn’t support his argument either, but… as long as he doesn’t give you bad grades because of this or something like that I don’t see the use of talking to the principal. He’s a liberal, so what? He is entitled to his own opinion and as long it’s not unconstitutional he can express it in a discussion in school.

I’ve seen way too many kids swoon over nothing more than the imagery.

We have to win this fight one conversation at a time. Cameron, at the very least you instilled some doubt in your classmates, which will serve them well if they keep their eyes and ears open.

This is what happens when one point of view is allowed to dominate schools. I know not all teachers believe this way. But a very large number have been brainwashed by militant left wing educators and environments spread every kind of anti-American dogma out there. The next thing they will be doing is introducing is Hitler really wasn’t a bad guy. the holocaust is an exaggeration. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Now that I am done venting. Your courage is an example to your peers. As you go on in school you will run into more anti-American academics. Stick to your convictions. Your conviction is definitely right on.

As a college professor, some of my students take notes with this pen, which also records the class. The computer dock transcribes the written notes and spoken words into computer files for sharing:

http://www.livescribe.com/

I use it for meetings that I would like to keep a record of. I think that many people would be interested in what goes on in that class, including your parents and school administrators.

Good luck, DB

I have been in several in various cities, and the same left-wing nonsense can be found in Religion and History/Social Studies.

My present school has an aging female hippie teaching precisely those 2 courses, and the kids receive daily doses of comments e.g. “America wasn’t hated by the world before W. Bush was president” or “Abortion is just one issue in deciding whom to vote for: Obama is anti-war and for the poor and homeless.”

And she marched around with a gruesome green and brown Obama Button for several weeks.

My solution for her and all liberals: if you voted Democrat, hand over most of your income, so it can be given to the poor and homeless and pacifist groups. If you like Marxist pacifism so much, let the government decide that you “need” only $300. a week to live on, and save the planet with the rest!