Comments on: Only 15 more Senate votes needed for cap and trade

By: AceInTX

AceInTX — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:42:26 +0000

but I don’t disagree with any of it

By: tanstaafl1019

tanstaafl1019 — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:11:16 +0000

but I will say this: A lot of people out there vote with their wallets. I gave up long ago trying to predict the outcomes of elections (I’m the editor of a small town newspaper, and I have a hard time even guessing which city council and school board members will be elected), but I do know that if we start seeing gas up around $3-$4 a gallon, sharp hikes in natural gas and electric bills and prices of foods and other goods spike because of energy costs, you might be surprised how many people turn out in ’10 to get rid of the officials who foisted C&T on us.

By: 6eorge Jetson

6eorge Jetson — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:40:45 +0000

“There’s an industry out there that would like to profit from govt manufactured hooey.” Of course, the hooey will cost the average American, but those in the industry positioned to siphon some of the unnecessary activity and money are strongly for it. As are their congressmen.”

The industry happens to be Wall Street.

By: zachv

zachv — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:49:53 +0000

Feingold – Yes.
Kohl – “Has not issued a statement yet.”

Call Kohl’s office.

By: AceInTX

AceInTX — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:16:06 +0000

Porkulous wasn’t filibustered because of Snowe, Collins, and Specter as you correctly pointed out…

By: muffin

muffin — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:29 +0000

Received an email from Nelson this morning stating he will vote YES on cap & trade. He spewed quite a bit of “global warming” in his email. I will respond back to him that when it comes to his reelection, he will lose my vote, my husband’s vote, and I will campaign against him by letting everyone know exactly why they are having trouble paying their higher electric bills.

I have yet to hear from Mel Martinez.

By: Achance

Achance — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:54:29 +0000

comes up. That is about the only thing that would stop him from running and if he runs, he’ll win. What are the odds of a man that age completing the term?

He’ll want the vindication of getting his seat back even if he knows he isn’t likely to complete the term. He justifiably believes that it was stolen from him. I know lots of purists here don’t like him, but Alaska could sure use him in dealing with Comrade Obama’s agenda and the Country would be a whole lot better off with Stevens in that seat than the Boy Senator from Anchorage. Begich has no natural constituency here as he owes his seat to the USDOJ, so he has to be a tool for Comrade Obama and Harry Reid.

By: AceInTX

AceInTX — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:46:22 +0000

and I don’t disagree…even with that portion of it…because there is someone in all those corporations and banks who will profit from this…it just makes me cringe a little when I here Rush…(or read in this instance)…talking about Main Street vs Wall Street

By: 6eorge Jetson

6eorge Jetson — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:24:16 +0000

and not 60 percent. Nay and unable to attend have the same effect. In either case, that Senator’s vote doesn’t count toward 60.

By: Trelaina

Trelaina — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:18:40 +0000

Note on RedHot says she is a possible NO vote. I would have figured her for a Reid sheep, but if there’s a chance, I’ll gladly burn up her phone line and website.

That said, her main website is working but her contact page is down. Interesting

Well, I got the phone number, and understand she’ll be in my hometown over the recess.

By: Joe_Cor

Joe_Cor — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:16:36 +0000

the Weeklystandard blog quoted a Congressional Republican strategist who said this bill was dead in the Senate. And now I read they have 45 votes already, with 23 fence sitters to pluck 5 more votes from? How won’t this thing pass, if those numbers are true? Are the numbers true, or are Republicans strategists really that clueless? Are they banking on wishful thinking instead of devising a real strategy to try to stop this monstrosity?

By: bk

bk — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:11:45 +0000

By: bk

bk — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:10:51 +0000

By: pilgrim

pilgrim — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:02:03 +0000

Sometimes things get taken out of context when only a portion of what Rush said is repeated. Here is a little more of the transcript for you.

Now, I find myself in an odd position because I’m a huge capitalist and I always have been as you well know. I’m a huge supporter and believer in the free market, but something seems rigged here. The whole piece of legislation is rotten, it is horrible, it is a disaster. In fact, there’s a story in Bloomberg today, it is going to increase our oil imports, where the objective is to decrease them. You know how it’s going to increase our oil exports? People who produce domestically are going to have to shut down and transfer the jobs overseas to avoid all the taxes. Meaning we’re going to have to import even more oil. The usual unintended consequences of the brainiac wizards of smart in the US House.

By: pilgrim

pilgrim — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:21:13 +0000

By: asmith1022

asmith1022 — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:44:20 +0000

Byrd would vote against it as is, that is if he wasn’t in the hospital, however im worried about Rockefeller. Of course if he was to vote for it, it would probably be the only chance to ever unseat him, but I don’t think he would be that stupid.

By: 6eorge Jetson

6eorge Jetson — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:00:17 +0000

By: 6eorge Jetson

6eorge Jetson — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:56:45 +0000

1993-1994? Clinton was mostly stymied after DADT (passed by executive order, if memory serves.)

Under Bush 2007-2008, Repubs had the veto, which meant Republicans only needed 1/3 rd in both houses to block any clearly Democratic-favored legislation (the override).

Under Bush and Clinton 1995-2006, Republicans had at least a majority in the House, so any Democratic-favored legislation could be killed there.

Thus, in my lifetime, the Republican filibuster has been the main weapon only in 64-68, 77-80, 93-94, and 09.

All present Republicans but Snowe & Collins filibustered Porkulus.

By: 6eorge Jetson

6eorge Jetson — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:37:47 +0000

The only exception to WV strongly favoring Blue is when Blue wants to shrink or shut down the coal industry. When faced with a Blue coal adversary, WV turns Red in a hurry.

By: Pomme

Pomme — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:27:27 +0000

“…one of these days, you and I, are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”