Fred Thompson takes Obama to task over the President’s latest amateurish flip flop — the green light that begins the process to provide the left its long-sought show trials of Bush Administration officials.
Listen to the following YouTube audio clip:
Fred really nails it.
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
If Only...
Freedomlover (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:04PM EST (link)Fred had been the Republican candidate in the last election. Sigh!
He hasn't exactly been silent the last several months
Lammo (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 7:28PM EST (link)Dare we hope for Fred ’12?
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
Fred is my favorite, too
redneck_hippie (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 7:34PM EST (link)From what I have observed, seems Fred thinks that presidential campaigns have become nothing but beauty pageants and I think he is right.
And we know what chance a pro-traditional marriage, 63-year old man has to win that.
Fred didn't give enough effort to get the nomination but I like his ideas. nt
Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 7:33PM EST (link)Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
My Fred still rocks!...nt
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:09PM EST (link)..
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Sure would be nice to have a MAN for president
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:18PM EST (link)Especially if his name was FRED!
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Or John Wayne. nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 7:36PM EST (link)Fred is a really good actor
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:29PM EST (link)I just don’t understand why he did not bring “Fred the actor” out to play last time up? Lefty’s love actors and Fred could have hypnotized a bunch of lefty’s into submission. If Fred the actor can show up with his fire & brimstone act then more people might get energized. Leave Fred the boring politician at home next time.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
The environment for Republicans was particularly poor last year
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 11:00PM EST (link)Churchill once opined, “America will do the right thing after it’s tried everything else.” Some folks only learn from the school of hard knocks.
The majority of the country was stricken last year by the grass-is-always-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence syndrome, following years of listening to unaccountable leftie complaints and the MSM.
How many sheep did you come across last year that when asked why they were supporting Obama & the Dems couldn’t muster anything beyond “um…it’s gotta be better…ahh…” Timing is very important, and perhaps Fred took the pulse of the American mood and came to sense that 2008 wasn’t the year to spend a significant amount of his presidential aspirations political capital.
This might be true.
larueladue (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:29AM EST (link)Perhaps wandering in the wilderness for 4 years will get people to pay attention to what they are doing when they pull the lever in 2010 and 2012.
Oh my Fred
peg_c (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:33PM EST (link)He could eat this narcissistic tool in the WH for lunch and have room left over for Emanuel. (Yeah, ok, then he’d need a double dose of Ipecac.)
I’m starting to think the ones who really want the presidency should never be allowed to have it.
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
Narcissistic, yes.
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 8:22PM EST (link)In recent days, also egotistic, naive, arrogant, and dumb. We can add indecisive, socialistic, and devious.
This whole flap has been brought up so that Obama can run against Bush for the next 3.5 years.
I hope and pray that it backfires. If the man is not a buffoon, he may well be a closet t——, because everything he does hurts his country.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Flagstaff it will backfire and here is why...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 8:26PM EST (link)The One doesn’t do well under as microscope and the TEA Parties and FOX News and we online in many, mnay venues have been NIPPING and RIPPING at his heels and he fails which is why his numbers are no better than Bush’s at this point and Bush had a very hard fought win! he will be destroyed by 2012 and I tell you I can feel the tide turning.
This cap and trade coming up will take his numbers below 50 because only 32 percent believe it is manmade and to have to PAY HIGHER electric bills etc will put the nail in the coffin of his RIDE!
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Dick Morris just called O's foreign policy "anti-American."
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 8:29PM EST (link)nt
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Well it is!!!
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 10:36PM EST (link)n/t
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Question for the audience
redneck_hippie (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:49PM EST (link)This is not rhetorical. If the truth commission meets in secret is it still considered a show trial? And if they do bar the press and public then they can leak and distort and slant everything that goes on. Hard to imaging that last, eh?
I think it would be the quintessential
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 8:30PM EST (link)show trial.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Flag, if you mean
redneck_hippie (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 8:42PM EST (link)that by shaming and discrediting Bush they shame and discredit all Republicans and those who wish to protect our nation, then yes, it is quintessentially a show trial. Rather lame since Bush/Cheney/Rove are no longer in power, but I guess they would rather have their show after the fact than not at all. Bastards.
Fred just didn't seem to have the energy
UpLateAgain (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 7:44PM EST (link)needed for a good campaign. I don’t know if it was his cancer,or what, but it was definitely our loss.
He does make a good point here too as well. If they insist on going ahead with this, it will be fun to see Pelosi admit under oath that she knew about and authorized the techniques.
I swear, every time Obama opens his mouth, he convinces me a little bit more that he is actually NOT “the smartest president we’ve ever had”, .
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
More and more people are agreeing with me.
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 8:07PM EST (link)“…every time Obama opens his mouth, he convinces me a little bit more that he is actually NOT “the smartest president we’ve ever had”, .”
Members of Congress will never testify in any kind of trial. They have Constitutional immunity and will never waive it.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
I'm not sure.
UpLateAgain (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 9:02PM EST (link)I know she’s immune from prosecution, but I think she can be subpoenaed as a witness, sworn in, and asked if she knew about and authorized the techniques.
The folks that ARE charged, since this would be a criminal and not a civil trial, have the right to call witnesses on their own behalf. Even hostile witnesses. Since she can’t be charged, she can claim neither immunity nor the fifth. She’d have to squeal. She just couldn’t be charged for how she responded, unless, of course, she lied under oath. Then her immunity would not apply and I think she could be charged with perjury, if not anything relating to her decision regarding the authorization.
Remember Clinton was impeached for lying under oath to the Justice Department, not for getting Lewinskied in the Oval Office.
In any event, the defendant could certainly testify to the fact that he advised Pelosi personally and she approved. If, in fact, she cannot be forced to testify, she would have to waive that right in order to refute the testimony of the defendant. If she didn’t, people would assume it was true. She knew and approved.
Any Constitutional lawyers out there know the answer to this one?
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
UpLate, IANAL of any kind, but
Flagstaff (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 9:34PM EST (link)what you wrote sounds very reasonable.
Since the whole process is basically a club being used to keep the anti-Bush campaign in place to feed the left, even though O has been elected, there may never actually be any trials. Given that it’s also almost entirely a partisan political action, if what you suggest is indeed the case, then many senior Democrats have some significant incentive to prevent any testimony from being taken, which may mean they’ll overrule Leahy and Conyers to C[T]A’s and avoid having to be deposed.
If it happens, it’ll destroy any chance at cross-party comity for a long time. It’s really worse than the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
NOT “the smartest president we’ve ever had” - not even close
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 10:38PM EST (link)Only the slobbering media says that: What did they give him an IQ test? Obama is the most devious president we have ever had. Sometimes that gets passed off as intelligence. Obama is just plain stupid.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Congress Approved CIA Interrogations
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 10:43PM EST (link)http://community2.myfoxdfw.com/_Congress-Approved-CIA-Interrogations/BLOG/253478/78592.html
Before members of Congress rail at the CIA’s coercive interrogation of terrorists, they might want to blame those who authorized the measures in the first place: themselves.
Yes, members of Congress approved the interrogation methods many of them now decry as torture.
That revelation comes from an article posted Wednesday on WeeklyStandard.com by senior writer Stephen F. Hayes, who reveals that Adm. Dennis Blair, President Obama’s national intelligence director, circulated a letter within the intelligence community last week that could prove embarrassing to both Democrats and the Obama administration.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
I might be alone in this
Aetius728 Wednesday, April 22nd at 7:46PM EST (link)But I think Fred should run again. He is the most articulate, unapologetic, and no nonsense spokesperson we have.
Yeah he is old, but he can paint Obama as the lightweight that he is. I know people will will point out lack of charisma, but I think the power of conservative ideas that are articulately expressed are powerful. People are anxious right now, They will appreciate a rock.somebody calm and steady, who they feel they can trust, whom they know will be straight with them no matter what.
I would recommend a very simple campaign slogan: “No BS.”
You are not alone
Lammo (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 3:21AM EST (link)and in addition to “No BS” might I suggest “No More BO!”
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
Bravo, Fred, for that rant
LDahl752 (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 9:13PM EST (link)Thank goodness Fred took BHO to task for opening the door to an investigation of “enhanced interrogation.” And, it’s a shame BHO didn’t just say” it’s in the past, let’s move forward.” But, I don’t doubt for a minute that The One knows exactly what conservatives’ reactions would be.
Could it be just another distraction? So many of the things going on in the 3 months since the Coronation get us all riled up. We spend days and days hollering about all of it; when, we should be directing our energy towards fighting his (and the Congress) socialist agenda. And now they’re on the virge of nationalizing the banks.
Remember the brouhaha over the AIG bonuses? Good grief, it isn’t done yet. How about his announcement to cut a paltry $100 million from his massive budget? Even some of his nominations who withdrew their names. All distractions.
Yes, we need to fight all these things as hard as possible. But, we cannot let any single “thing” consume us for days and days. There are HUGE issues that are then allowed to keep their traction and gain momentum. This president and Congress need to be watched 24/7 or their goal of more socialism, massive growth in government, bigger unions, thereby locking in huge voting blocs, will be accomplished.
Linda D, Henderson NV
5555555 nt
UpLateAgain (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 9:18PM EST (link)You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
Let's Use Fred's Rant as a Rallying Cry!
reddog53 (Diary) Wednesday, April 22nd at 9:58PM EST (link)I think we should flood our Representatives’ offices with email/phone calls that make three salient demands: 1) No action can be taken by either House until every member of Congress and the Senate certifies in writing that they have personally read the memos and the memos called for by Vice President Cheney. They must also certify that they have read and understand the statutes which deal with applicable law and regulation regarding the release of classified data. 2) Any truth commissions created must have the power to call for and compell the testimony of current and past Congressional members and Senators to determine what they knew and when. 3) Since the Obama administration has voluntarily ceded protection afforded by ‘executive privilege’, they must also furnish all memos writtten regarding the release of these documents to complete their desire for transparency–let’s see who pushed for this release and hold them accountable.
We should then consider taking out ads in the Washington Post to remind Obama political appointees that they will have, at best, 8 years before they are subjected to the same scrutiny over missile defense, bailouts, cap and trade and other issues. Hindsight is always clearer, but frequently not very useful.
Obama can legally kill national security threats.
UpLateAgain (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:24AM EST (link)In 1981, Ronald Reagan signed executive order number 12333, which outlined the duties and responsibilities of America’s Intelligence Services. Included in that order was Part 2, Paragraph 2.11, which prohibited assassination, including in “conventional, counterinsurgency, and counter-terrorist operations. ”
However, the order was amended by interpretation in 1989:
MEMORANDUM ON EXECUTIVE ORDER 12333 AND ASSASSINATION
Colonel W. Hays Parks, USMCR (Ret.)
In a Memorandum of Law originally dated November 2, 1989, W. Hays Parks, Special Assistant for Law of War Matters to The Judge Advocate General of the Army, examined national and international legal interpretations of assassination in order to provide guidance in revising a U.S. Army Law of War Manual.
The memo is not a statement of policy, but rather a discussion of the definition of assassination and legal issues to consider in its application, including levels of conflict and the distinction between assassination in wartime and peacetime.
It explores the meaning and possible application of assassination—which is prohibited as a matter of national policy by Executive Order 12333—in conventional, counterinsurgency, and counter-terrorist operations.
The memo concludes that the use of military force against legitimate targets that threaten U.S. citizens or national security as determined by the President does not constitute assassination, and would therefore not be prohibited by Executive Order 12333 or by international law.
So that interpretation says in effect that Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, and Obama have all had (and Obama still has) the legal authority to order a subject killed should he determine the subject to be a threat to national security or to a US citizen. Obama did so, in effect, with the Somali pirates. But nowhere does it limit the death order to hostage situations. In effect, where national security interests are concerned, the President (and he alone) CAN order assassinations. They just wouldn’t call it that.
It strikes me as more than ludicrous that the same man that can order assassinations where national security interests are concerned can be later prosecuted for ordering waterboarding.
Am I missing something here?
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
Congress Knew About the Interrogations
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 7:46AM EST (link)http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044188941045415.html
By PETER HOEKSTRA
…….An honest and thorough review of the enhanced interrogation program must also assess the likely damage done to U.S. national security by Mr. Obama’s decision to release the memos over the objections of Mr. Panetta and four of his predecessors. Such a review should assess what this decision communicated to our enemies, and also whether it will discourage intelligence professionals from offering their frank opinions in sensitive counterterrorist cases for fear that they will be prosecuted by a future administration.
Perhaps we need an investigation not of the enhanced interrogation program, but of what the Obama administration may be doing to endanger the security our nation has enjoyed because of interrogations and other antiterrorism measures implemented since Sept. 12, 2001.
Mr. Hoekstra, a congressman from Michigan, is ranking Republican on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
If we are again attacked
UpLateAgain (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:12PM EST (link)and it is later shown that releasing these classified documents interfered with obtaining intelligence that could have prevent ed the attack or otherwise abetted the attackers, can charges be brought against the current administration?
Remember, they could have brought charges if they wanted-to without making the documents public – essentially conducting a bi-partisan in-camera hearing. It’s clear this whole morass is strictly for political reasons to assuage the far left and probably George Soros.
But then again, why should I be surprised. For the past eight years Democrats have been willing to betray their country and its soldiers strictly for what they saw as potential political gain.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.