CPAC Blogger Lounge is open for business


Two words: MARCO! POLO!

The RedState contingent is alive and well at CPAC 2010, camping out in the (Redstate-sponsored) Blogger Lounge.  There are at least seven of us here so far, and more will float in and out during the day.

Note Moe Lane’s fingers on the keyboard in the foreground.

Estimates are at about 10K attendees for this year’s event.  So far we’ve had Marco Rubio and Jim DeMint addressing the crowd.  Both were fantastic, as expected, and got the audience fired up.  Rubio detailed several key ideas he has for how to turn the country back from the Obamination that we find ourselves experiencing today:

  • Reform the tax code, reduce tax rates across the board
  • Eliminate double taxation – abolish capital gains, dividends, interest, death taxes
  • Lower the corporate tax rate so it is competitive with the rest of the world
  • Stop big govt energy madates such as Cap & Trade
  • Put the consumer in charge of healthcare spending in America
  • Pass lawsuit abuse reform
  • Undertake serious measures to get control of national debt
  • Terrorists attack to impose their view of the world on as many as they can; America is standing in the way
    • We will do whatever it takes, as long as it takes, to defeat radical Islamic terrorism
    • We will stand with our allies like Israel
    • We will capture them (terrorists_, get useful info from them, bring them to justice in front of military tribunal at Gitmo, not a civilian courtroom in Manhattan (BIG APPLAUSE)

The agenda here is rich, and there will be more where that came from.  Watch the action on Twitter via hashtag #cpac10.  And watch the front page throughout the conference…we’re all working to bring the conference to you live!


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Rush just played sound bites of Marco Rubio's speech

Scope (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 1:31PM EST (link)

and it sounded like he brought the house down. Can we clone him?

 

Cough Flat Tax Cough

Alberta (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 1:59PM EST (link)

although on your war on terror, that made me blush. Really? Prepared to whatever it takes? Prepared to overthrow the monarchy in Saudi Arabia? Prepared to cozy up to the dictatorships in Egypt vs Egyptions? Prepared to emasculate the arab nations and bring them to heel? I dont know about that, I mean, the people are pissed they have to save Iraq and Afghanistan from themselves.

Im for it, but I dont know how many people are.

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln

heck, I am for a consumption tax only

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 7:22PM EST (link)

but I think a few accountants and lawyers would be against having to find new jobs. I believe that is the same problem with the flat tax

btw, I would take to dictatorship in Egypt over Egyptians that want to blow us up. Islam needs to reform itself, our job is to kill the enemy.

Molon Labe!

My main issue with a consumption tax

togaman Thursday, February 18th at 8:07PM EST (link)

is that in reality this kind of tax means that the middle class and poor pay a much higher tax rate than the very wealthy. If a man makes 50,000 a year in this country he is going to spend 99% of it just to get by, so he is in effect paying taxes on 99% of his income. A man who makes ten million dollars may spend 5 million dollars, but that means he is being taxed on only 50% of his income. This renders his tax rate at 50% versus 99% for the working class.

Now I would foresee the benefit to the country if the other 5 million untaxed money was then invested in a way that produced jobs or otherwise helped the country and economy, but as we have seen over the past decade or so, these days that other 5 million gets “invested” in bizarre credit swaps and poorly regulated ponzi schemes that benefit very few.

The consumption tax would only be fair if there were more regulation on untaxed money, and THAT is a nasty, unworkable solution, don’t ya think?

I don't agree with your assumptions togaman

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 8:31PM EST (link)

A consumption tax would incentivize saving and investment. And if someone making 50K spends 99 percent of his money, he is living beyond his means and not planning for the future.

Even though it is a slippery slope of regulation, I could see having a low tax on necessities like milk, diapers, and food along with a higher tax on luxury items only the rich could buy. But a consumption only tax would break the idea that income should be taxed, something we as a country did not do permanently until 1916.

Molon Labe!

I respectfully disagree with one thing Doc

togaman Thursday, February 18th at 10:12PM EST (link)

Expecting a man who makes 50,000 with any kind of family to save and invest is not reasonable. Where I live (Santa Clara County CA) the poverty level for a family of 3 is $45,000. Surely you would not suggest that a family just scraping by barely above poverty level should be held less than responsible for not “Investing”. Just bad car repair or illness to the breadwinner brings them close to homelessness here. Under the consumption tax, this family is paying taxes on virtually every penny the make because they have to spend it all just to survive.

but if a pure consumption tax also..

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 10:23PM EST (link)

did away with all other taxes, including payroll taxes, ssn etc. Then the worker gets about 20% more to his income immediately.

Furthermore, there would be much less of a tax compliance burden on business which may lead to more hiring.

I think it would be more efficient. As for poor people, well let us just say that under the current system, poor people, illegal immigrants, and various criminals are not paying their fair share of taxes. But with a consumption tax, then they would pay at least some.

It would make illegal immigration less of a burden on the public for that reason.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

very true Kyle

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 10:58PM EST (link)

so much money is wasted on tax compliance, that money would go back to productive uses. I am not talking about raising taxes, but lowering them. I am also talking about allowing money to go where it is most useful.

As I said before, there could even be tax free goods that allow those with less income to not be taxed much at all. There is something fundamentally unfair about taxation simply because one earns money.

Molon Labe!

 
 

not to sound cruel Toga

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:03PM EST (link)

but maybe people who don’t make a lot of money should not have three kids and live in Santa Clara. I am supporting the free market here I believe. Under our current system, a guy making $50K is not really making $50K. If Santa Clara needs the workers bad enough they will pay the number needed to attract them.

The tax code has become a labyrinth solely to keep 6 figure jobs for accountants, lawyers, and civil servants. It is also used as a weapon by politicians, interest groups, and lobbyists.

Molon Labe!

I respect your points Doc

togaman Thursday, February 18th at 11:20PM EST (link)

Thanks for the discussion

and I yours Toga, anytime :) -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:25PM EST (link)

nt

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

my plan (lol) would not tax health-care -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:29PM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

 
 

as to your post Doc, what if...

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 10:29PM EST (link)

we had a Progressive sales tax. What got taxed would not be the issue, instead we would simply say. the first dollar is always tax free.

then 1-100$ pays a certain rate. 101-10,000$ purchase pays one percent higher. 10,000 – 100,000 purchase pays one percent more, and maybe another bracket up to 1 million, then every purchase above one million pays the highest rate.

That way the people concerned with progressivity cannot claim that the rich are not paying their fair share as if you buy something very expensive you pay one or two more percent.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

the theory makes sense to me Kyle

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:04PM EST (link)

the rich should pay more than the poor I suppose. But should not EVERY man be allowed to decide when he pays? That is the power of the consumption tax, you get to decide.

Molon Labe!

 

Huh...interesting idea Kyle

togaman Thursday, February 18th at 11:24PM EST (link)

Combine it with Docs ideas about certain staples (milk, diapers, etc) being tax free or very low tax items, AND get rid of the many many tax loopholes which allow people (especially those wealthy enough to hire creative accountants and lobbyists) to game the system, Follow that with some of the regulation regarding responsibility and investment risk, and we might just have something here.

 
 

Doc, a consumptions tax would be moderately regressive

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 10:51PM EST (link)

but I, personally, would have no problem with that: the current situation under which ~50% of the voting-age population doesn’t contribute to our collective security is a dangerous place to be, and means that they will continue to vote for whoever has more bread and circuses in store, instead of for the person who will be the better steward of their finances.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

very true Aesthete

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:08PM EST (link)

we have a majority class with no skin in the game, that is very dangerous to democracy and liberty. If certain people are not taxed, why should they oppose tax increases?

Also, if we do keep an income tax, people should be forced to write a check each year. they would feel the pain of sending their money to the government and the gov would not have the free interest scam they have now.

Molon Labe!

 
 

How about not

conritwng Saturday, February 20th at 8:50AM EST (link)

having a tax on foodstuffs. No one should have their right to eat ( anything) taxed!

I’m either a birther or a moby, and the moderator doesn’t really feel it’s worth his time to determine which; both are insta-bans anyway.

 
 

credit swaps are not ponzi schemes

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 8:35PM EST (link)

the problem was that people sold them knowing that could not pay off in the worst case scenario. We need to find a way to ensure someone who sells a swap has the money to pay off, maybe they have to put it in some kind of trust.

the market has always had speculators, hell, it NEEDS speculators to take risk from those who can’t afford it. But when the bill comes due, those speculators have to be able to pay it.

Molon Labe!

Fair enough Doc

togaman Thursday, February 18th at 9:02PM EST (link)

The market NEEDS risk, but it has to be real risk, not simply gambling other peoples money then having the government pay off the debts when the risk goes bad. We need at least enough regulation of the market to ensure that risks are not too high, and that speculators DO indeed have the money to pay off the losses.

agreed toga

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 9:55PM EST (link)

at least on the part about speculators proving they can pay and that the gov (we) should not bail out those that go bust

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

I almost hate to bring it up, since no one else has yet

Finrod (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:27PM EST (link)

The FairTax, which is basically a consumption tax at its core since it’s on services and new goods, solves the mildly regressive problem simply by giving everyone (every citizen, that is) every month the amount of tax on $500 of goods. Sure, you could force everyone to send in receipts and have a gov’t agency go through them all before issuing checks, but just presuming everyone is going to buy that much stuff every month probably works out to be cheaper in the long run, and certainly is less hassle.

Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?

I'm still not sold on the FairTax

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:41PM EST (link)

As you point out, there are some advantages to the FairTax, and I prefer the idea of being taxed for consumption instead of for your property, but it also seems like it would be a less-than-dependable source of income for the Federal governent. I’d like to see places where such a system is in effect and works well, before I endorse it. The discussion is probably theoretical, anyways, as it would require at least a Constitutional amendment to be enacted in the manner that is envisioned.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

aesthete, you are not going to see a place where it works

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:46PM EST (link)

because no one else want’s to give up the gravy train. We are always asked to make due, why can’t the government?

Molon Labe!

 

The FairTax Book by Neal Boortz and Georgia Congressman John Linder (Barnes & Noble

usa2day (Diary) Friday, February 19th at 9:04AM EST (link)

The FairTax Book by Neal Boortz and Georgia Congressman John Linder (Barnes & Noble) might be of interest to those in this tax discussion. More information at http://boortz.com/nuze/200506/06102005.html.
I look forward to seeing a “For Lease” sign on the IRS Building in Washington, DC.
USA2Day

 
 

finrod, I see nothing about it that goes against

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 11:48PM EST (link)

what I and others have said and thought. I need to look into it more, but it seems certainly like an improvement. My only concern is that everyone should pay some taxes, if only to realize taxes should be lowered.

There is no area of government that is not fraught with waste and abuse. It is time they learn to cut costs before they start asking us for more money.

Molon Labe!

 

Everyone recieves a prebate each month.

rickindenver Friday, February 19th at 1:42PM EST (link)

From fairtax.org “All valid Social Security cardholders who are U.S. residents receive a monthly prebate equivalent to the FairTax paid on essential goods and services, also known as the poverty level expenditures. The prebate is paid in advance, in equal installments each month. The size of the prebate is determined by the Department of Health & Human Services’ poverty level guideline multiplied by the tax rate. This is a well-accepted, long-used poverty-level calculation that includes food, clothing, shelter, transportation, medical care, etc.”
Anyone who earns less than or equal to the poverty rate pays no tax.

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq_answers#3

 
 

Given your comments

edniceville Friday, February 19th at 7:55AM EST (link)

I take it you have not read “The Fair Tax” book. I highly recommend you read it. It is by Neal Boortz and John LInder. It explains everything very well.

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” – Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Fair tax? What is fair there?

voicefromthevoid Friday, February 19th at 3:29PM EST (link)

The whole idea that “poor” have to have less of a burden then “wealthy” is still a creepy communism.

The idea that there still must be some governmental entity that sends out checks and decides how big those should be is still a big nanny government advocacy.

If there’s got to be tax at all, it must be flat and paid regardless. It’s that simple, make that more complicated and you end up with a replica of today’s tax code before you know it.

Oh come off it

Finrod (Diary) Monday, February 22nd at 11:46PM EST (link)

If you are in any way comparing a government that is deciding what the size of the one single check that is the same size for everyone with the government that is getting every single detail of our financial transactions and has made such a monstrosity out of the tax code that absolutely no one understands it, much less can explain it–

Then I have nothing to say to you, other than that you’re trying to compare a zit to an erupting volcano. The FairTax is as simple a tax as we’re ever going to get and trying to criticize it from that perspective is well beyond ridiculous.

Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?

 
 
 
 
 
 

Marco Rubio to Erick Erickson: You are a

nelsa (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 5:15PM EST (link)

“Big Guy”! LOL Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey posted video of Rubio at the meeting with bloggers after his incredible speech at CPAC. Here is the link to video and watch Erick respond to Rubio.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/18/rubio-meets-the-bloggers-and-more/

That was an interesting meeting

Bill S (Diary) Thursday, February 18th at 9:45PM EST (link)

Several RSers were at the meeting, as was Ed, Melissa Clouthier, and a couple of others. The video pretty much speaks for itself. The interesting thing was how Rubio draws press like flies. I think they can sense that he’s the real deal and will be a force in the GOP into the future. The meetup started just as us bloggers and ended with a LOT of very expensive cameras and mics…put my little Flip to shame.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

Here is the latest drivel from the Crist camp

edniceville Friday, February 19th at 8:01AM EST (link)

about Marco’s appearance at CPAC. Amazing how you can take a series of comments out of context and turn it into a real pile of dung!

REMARKS BY FORMER FLORIDA HOUSE SPEAKER MARCO RUBIO BEFORE THE CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (CPAC)
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 2010 – WASHINGTON, DC

***Not Prepared for Delivery, Not Embargoed Until Delivery***

Good morning. Thank you for that warm welcome and the opportunity to speak to you about why I’m running for the U.S. Senate. [WAIT FOR APPLAUSE]

Since my campaign began, I’ve had the privilege of becoming the latest cover boy. Ask my lobbyist[1] colleagues — I’m a capitalist (at least when it comes to benefitting financially while claiming to serve the people of Florida[2]). And, capitalizing on that wave, I have successfully painted myself as a political outsider[3]. Our success in convincing voters that I am a new voice in Florida politics is surprising even to me. It seems that people are quick to forget (and I certainly won’t remind them!) that I was elected to the Florida House of Representatives in 2000 and rose through the Republican leadership ranks to become the Speaker of the Florida House. All of this by a spry 36.

I owe most of my recent success from a single photograph. I say, ‘image is everything’ – and luckily, I found a photo with the Governor of Florida greeting the President of the United States. And Presto! Instant candidacy for moi! Sure, my opponent was aware Florida was facing a $6 billion dollar deficit and supported getting Florida our fair share of federal money. And, sure, I admitted I would have accepted the stimulus money too in a recent interview[4] (Stimulus! See, just like that, I say the word whenever I can). But that’s the Magic of Marco – I just back-tracked. I find it’s easier to criticize when you are out of office than when you are in office. I’m glad I was not Speaker at that time, or else I would have joined my Republican colleagues in the Florida Legislature and supported the stimulus money for our state, which would have been much harder to back track. That’s what you call lucky.

Concerned about out of control spending in Washington? Me too! Pay no attention to the fact that I sent my opponent, Gov. Crist, our state budget loaded with hundreds of millions in special interest earmarks – Crist vetoed $459 million of it[5]. I’ve helped support enough earmarks[6] during my time in Tallahassee to make even Shamu’s head swim! I even tried to score some new turf for my flag football league[7] (who wouldn’t want me on their team? I deliver![8]), but that was found out and promptly vetoed too[9]. I even spent over half a million dollars of Republican Party of Florida money just on my 100 ideas book[10] – including about $175,000 to seek other people’s ideas[11] and another $150,000 for other people to write them all down[12].

We all hate taxes. I hate them even more. Like when I proposed the largest tax increase in Florida history[13] – boy, I hate that. Lucky Grover Norquist doesn’t hold it against me that I raised taxes when I was in local government too[14].

I enjoyed speaking to some of you prior to my remarks. Besides the issues I just touched on, I heard directly about your concerns relating to illegal immigration and cap and trade. I want to touch on both topics now.

When it comes to immigration, I am all about talking tough[15] – my approach stems from the fact that it is easier to discuss the issue than to fix it. I had a bear of a time back in 2007 with this issue. Six Republican members introduced legislation that would have cracked down on illegal immigration in our state[16]. Frankly, I had no appetite to deal with this, so I never called one bill up for consideration[17]. Pay no attention that my more lenient views on immigration were well documented by many at the time[18]. I supported legislation that would have given illegals in-state tuition discounts instead of out of state costs[19]. I even won the support of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO) – they gave me their highest award in 2007! They do seem to be a bit miffed at me lately, they claim I’m not the same guy I was in 2007[20]. Whatever … Stimulus!

I now say cap and trade is wrong, but I supported a carbon tax[21]. May sound strange (does to me too), and I know that shakes many of you to the core, but it’s true. Before I became a candidate for U.S. Senate I supported giving Florida’s Department of Environmental Protection agency a mandate to go out and develop a cap and trade program including a carbon tax[22]. This position was to get ahead of what would be coming down from Washington[23]. Clearly I read the political tides wrong, but I cannot stand by my comments from March 2008 or all of you will see right through me, I mean, that’s a lifetime ago in politics. Moving on …

More than anything else, my political rise provided me with the ability to influence public policy and see firsthand why Americans are tired of insider deal making[24] and self-interest influence[25]. We must put an end to this type of influence in today’s politics. There is no one who understands this more than I – a lobbyist while serving Floridians in the House[26].

I am not naïve when it comes to dealing with this kind of corruption in the political system. I have learned these lessons from firsthand experience. You see, when I was Speaker of the House, I tried to influence the political process by inserting language into three pieces of legislation to help a campaign contributor and close political ally be able to secure business with the Florida Turnpike[27]. I’m sure many in this room during a recent trip to Florida became familiar with the Florida Turnpike. I slipped this language in to the different bills with the hope it would not cause a concern. However, my actions hindered my chance of helping my donor and unfortunately all the bills were vetoed by Gov. Crist[28] (three separate pieces of legislation, it can’t get better than that- sorry buddy I tried!).

Being out of office now has benefits, though. I’m able to crisscross Florida any time I want because of the flexibility I have from my current job at Florida International University[29]. Education is very important to me. Although I never really paid FIU any attention before[30], as Speaker, I made it a priority during my two years to funnel millions of dollars to FIU[31] so that they could be leaders within our state university system. I knew they were counting on me[32] and, let me tell you, my partnership with them paid off big time. I was so excited about taking a part-time job, thankfully unadvertised, with FIU making $69,000 a year with full health benefits[33]. I hear the challenges of folks every day when it comes to health care. I’m just glad I was taken care of. I showed my good pal Ray Sansom, my successor and hand-picked budget chief[34] how to do this too – unfortunately for him, he wasn’t near as sly as I was.

I’m thrilled many of you don’t know me or what I’ve done during my 8 years in Tallahassee. My record is irrelevant in this campaign. My previous statements and actions serve no purpose in this campaign[35]. The fact that I’m a lobbyist and lobbied during my time in the Florida House has no place in this campaign. Many sundry things about me are out there but they have no place in this campaign. As I’ve said before, everything is done in the context of the moments in which you’re living[36]. So, anyone who brings up the fact that I have a record or even refers to me as Speaker must be running the most negative campaign in the history of modern politics, and, because of such, I refuse to talk about my past. I’m like the Great and Powerful Oz – pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! All you need to know is that I’m an outsider, I mean Conservative Outsider! [APPLAUSE]. (Oops, I almost forgot that one). I’m the new guy. I just hope this best kept secret remains just that. Despite my experiences and time in Tallahassee, I thank you for your support.

[STAFF ENTERS WITH THRONE]

——————————————————————————–

[1] Miami Herald, “Marco Rubio, Lobbyist,” 1/22/10
[2] St. Petersburg Times, “Senate run puts Rubio’s ties to FIU under fiscal scrutiny,” 12/13/09
[3] Ibid.
[4] NBC Tampa Bay Interview, 12/10/09, http://www2.tbo.com/video/2009/dec/09/political-slugfest-88039/video-news/
[5] Tampa Tribune, “Crist takes aim at Rubio’s bona fides as conservative,” 2/12/10
[6] Miami Herald, “Miami-Dade made out well this session,” 5/13/07
[7] St. Petersburg Times, “Rubio Rhetoric, Record Diverge,” 11/8/09
[8] St. Petersburg Times, “Senate run puts Rubio’s ties to FIU under fiscal scrutiny,” 12/13/09
[9] Ibid.
[10] Palm Beach Post, “House Speaker bets political future on tax plan,” 6/5/07
[11] Ibid.
[12] Ibid.
[13] Tampa Tribune, “Sales Tax Swap Survives In House Relief Measure,” 4/17/07
[14] St. Petersburg Times, “Rubio has several pro-tax votes,” 11/25/09
[15] Miami Herald, “Rubio’s immigration stance faces scrutiny,” 11/6/09
[16] Ibid.
[17] Ibid.
[18] Ibid.
[19] Sarasota Herald-Tribune, “Census has Crist and Rubio at odds,” 2/3/10
[20]Miami Herald, “Rubio, Crist differ on who should be counted in Census,” 2/5/10
[21] Face to Face Interview, 3/13/08, http://www.wfsu.org/tfc/f2f-2007.html
[22] Ibid.
[23] Rubio Speech before Florida House of Representatives, 3/27/07, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z852N1MP0o
[24] St. Petersburg Times, “Senate run puts Rubio’s ties to FIU under fiscal scrutiny,” 12/13/09
[25] Miami Herald, “Rubio’s Budget Wording Benefits Ally,” 4/7/08
[26] Miami Herald, “Marco Rubio, Lobbyist,” 1/22/10
[27] Miami Herald, “Rubio’s Budget Wording Benefits Ally,” 4/7/08
[28] St. Petersburg Times, “Crist puts veto pen to work for Public,” 6/18/08
[29] St. Petersburg Times, “Senate run puts Rubio’s ties to FIU under fiscal scrutiny,” 12/13/09
[30] Ibid.
[31] Ibid.
[32] Ibid.
[33] Ibid.
[34] Miami Herald, “Marco Rubio may be called to testify in Ray Sansom case,” 2/11/10
[35] Rubio AP Day Remarks, 1/27/10
[36] St. Petersburg Times Video, 12/7/09

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” – Daniel Patrick Moynihan

 

The Solution

nedescon Friday, February 19th at 8:39AM EST (link)

The Fair Tax HR 25 would solve these problems and much more.
# Reform the tax code, reduce tax rates across the board
# Eliminate double taxation – abolish capital gains, dividends, interest, death taxes
# Lower the corporate tax rate so it is competitive with the rest of the world
# Stop big govt energy madates such as Cap & Trade
# Put the consumer in charge of healthcare spending in America.

It would also fix Social Security and Medicaid/care, Stimulate our economy, and create jobs! Mostly what it will do is return the control of Government back to the citizen from the politician. It has about 60 or so supporters in Congress, mostly Republican. It allows the American citizen to control spending and THAT is why our Politicians are scared of it! I’m voting for the FairTax regardless of what party or movement has the candidate Gee, what if CPAC got behind the solution….

Keep 100 percent of your paycheck
Save money tax-free for your retirement and family
Help America become No. 1 in global trade competition
•••••
Support the Fair Tax (www.fairtax.org)

 

Wish I were there ...

racvt Friday, February 19th at 9:45AM EST (link)

… but decided not to attend this year because I believe Mr. Keene still has some explaining to do by allegedly attempting to “sell” his “influence vote” to the highest bidder in a FedEx-UPS issue last year.
I know he’s not missing my $750, but feel he should account for his action.
Is anybody at RedState questioning him on this?

racvt

 

Fixing The Economy

irish2dabone Friday, February 19th at 10:25AM EST (link)

The St. Pete Times in FL recently asked its reader’s to comment on how they would fix the Economy. Before discounting what someone had submitted below, think about the billions already wasted with the stimulus $$ and what hasn’t been spent as yet… and what this Admin is asking for again in stimulus $$. Point in fact, in central FL alone I believe $150M was spent for turtle crossings under highways. Call me lazy, or just someone looking forward to being put on Obama’s Social Welfare, programs, but $2-3M each wouldn’t break their stimulus coffers

“Mr. President,
Please find below my suggestion for fixing
America’s economy. Instead of giving billions of dollars to companies that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan. You can call it the “Patriotic Retirement Plan”:

There are about 40 million people over 55 in the work force. Pay them $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:

1) They MUST retire. Forty million job openings – Unemployment fixed.

2) They MUST buy a new American CAR. Forty million cars ordered – Auto Industry fixed.

3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage – Housing Crisis fixed.

It can’t get any easier than that!!
P.S. If more money is needed, have all members in Congress pay their taxes…

Mr. President, while you’re at it, make Congress retire on Social Security and Medicare. I’ll bet both programs would be fixed pronto”

The only way the economy will be fixed

izoneguy (Diary) Friday, February 19th at 10:47AM EST (link)

is to retire Obama. Pelosi & Reid and the socialists for evah….

Break the dependence of drones from welfare.

Don’t make unemployment comfortable.

If you really want to work – you can.

The moron who flew his plane into a building was blaming his problems on the IRS & the government. So I ask – where did he get the money to buy an airplane? If you are self-employed you MUST set aside 30% of your income for taxes. This idiot was a computer programmer but could not do basic math.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 
 

Poisoning's on SC Military Base

irish2dabone Friday, February 19th at 10:40AM EST (link)

Let’s see how I can be Politically Correct here… a group of 5- individuals; all of the same religious denomination, have been held for poisoning the food supply on a SC military installation… then there was the Ft. Hood shootings by someone who practiced the same religion… and let’s not forget the infamous “underwear-bomber” who also practiced the same religion.

Thank goodness the above individuals weren’t NRA member’s or Christians, or they would be labeled “militia-extremists”. Looks like its time to bring the TSA in to start swabbing every 80+ yr old grandmother and their 2-yr old grandchild visiting our bases for gun, explosive and poison residue.

 

Where are the defending fathers?-Herman Cain

Common_Cents (Diary) Saturday, February 20th at 9:12AM EST (link)

“The founding fathers did their job, we need some defending fathers.

Anyone see Herman Cain? He had a good message.

“We no longer elect statesmen so we need to be active and vocal in between elections.”

“stay informed and learn history or you will drink the liberal koolaid.”

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

He also framed healthcare well

Common_Cents (Diary) Saturday, February 20th at 9:26AM EST (link)

We don’t have a health care crisis, we have a health care COST crisis, and govt/current dem initiatives make costs worse.

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 
 

CPAC or Contract With America?

merling (Diary) Tuesday, February 23rd at 9:52AM EST (link)

I do not hear anyone offering a Bank Consumer Protection Bill or Insurance Consumer Protection Bill for us “little” guys or us grass roots voters. Congress bailed them out with OUR money…now who is going to protect us from these crooks? The GOP or a Third Party???

Banks deduct checks & debit card expenditures BEFORE giving us consumers credit for our deposits. This is to screw us into having ISF. WHO is going ot make the banks give us credit for our deposits FIRST then take out our checks & debit card expenses???

These ISF means millions of us on SS have to pay these fees instead of buying groceries or medicine!! Who care??? Does the GOP or CPAC?