Yesterday we had Geithner and Summers saying “the deficits that we have brought on are too high, so we may have to raise taxes on the middle class” (well, they didn’t say the “that we brought on” part, but they should have…).
Now we have Gibbs overriding them.
Anyone believe Robert Gibbs/Obama?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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It doesn't matter if the admin. is lying anyway
scottbomb (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 6:07PM EST (link)Obama is the only politician I have ever seen who can just tell lie after lie and get away with it. It’s amazing.
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and "get away" with it? What is your definition of "get away" given that we haven't had the first
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Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 6:38PM EST (link)Beat me to it
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If ObamaCare Passes, The Middle Class Will Be Taxed Hard
DavidSage (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 6:32PM EST (link)There really is no way to pay for the type of health care Obama is pushing without substantially raising taxes on the middle class, unless you want to absolutely destroy the dollar. Even if you raised the top income tax rates to 70%, it still wouldn’t be enough to pay for this health care plan. My guess is he will try to say they aren’t tax increases but “fees” for health care access.
This pledge of Obama’s of “no new taxes for those who earn under $250k” will haunt Obama. I really don’t see how he’s going to be able to keep the promise with the Bush tax cuts expiring and deficits soaring because of his spending spree.
My fear is he’ll get these programs passed, and be able to get by without raising taxes until after the election.
Actually, the Obama health plan
eliminatedebt Monday, August 3rd at 9:39PM EST (link)Is paid for by consolidating the costs of Medicaid and Medicare as well as adding a surcharge to the top 1.2% tax bracket. So the middle class won’t feel it directly. Supply-side economic theory would say the middle class would feel it indirectly, however I have yet to see supply side economics work in the real world.
As much as I hate a 1 trillion $$$ plan, your numbers are whack man.
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Show me the numbers
Steven Willis (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 10:07PM EST (link)1. Since medicaid is at least partially funded by the States, how will the Obamacare plan combine it? Under what authority?
2. What is “the top 1.2% tax bracket”? I’ve been a tax lawyer for 30+ years and I’ve never heard that expression. I believe it is as meaningless as your arguments.
3. What is the “Obama health plan”? I understand that BO is leaving it to Congress to draft a plan. As he has said, many plans are out there.
If you haven’t seen supply side economics work in the real world, you haven’t been paying attention.
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Your Numbers Make No Sense
DavidSage (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 11:01PM EST (link)So the entire cost of Obama’s health care plan (the one where he’s pushing a public option) will be paid for by a small surcharge on 1.2% of taxpayers. You’re dreaming.
If that’s all it took, we would have had Universal Health care a long time ago.
No one said it would be 'small'
eliminatedebt Monday, August 3rd at 11:54PM EST (link)If it was small no one would care and as you said, it would have been done years ago.
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Biggest revenue drop since 1932
djemi (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 6:34PM EST (link)http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Graphic-shows-change-federal-tax-receipts-1980/photo//090803/480/55ddbd49a6c744cc9d88043ffe1f9eba//s:/ap/us_plummeting_taxes
Take a look at the graph and tell me who’s lying
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Drop in revenues
muffin Monday, August 3rd at 7:47PM EST (link)Couldn’t possibly be related to the high unemployment. Now let me think this out.
1. Decrease tax rates
2. More jobs created
3. More jobs mean more revenue for govt
4. Nah. Let’s just tax the middle class. They are used to it.
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That's one major nosedive
Richard Mullins (Diary) Tuesday, August 4th at 12:06AM EST (link)57% drop in corporate tax receipts after we had one of the better years for tax receipts in 2005 and we know why the Dems are bad for the country.
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The May Find A Way Around It With Semantics
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 6:37PM EST (link)There may not be a “income tax” hike. But people forget that they already raised taxes on the middle and lower classes via the cigarette tax, which is regressive. They’ll soak the rich, pass a VAT, and pass something like a “promoting childrens health act” that will tax sugars, soda and fast food.
And they will sit there and swear they didnt raise taxes on the middle class.
They could take another twisted approach
bk (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 6:49PM EST (link)They pass some huge tax increase on everyone — oops I mean on everyone who WORKS — and say it’s just TEMPORARY and therefore it doesn’t REALLY count as a tax increase.
It could be part of the Recovery from the Economy that was Actually More Unstable than Suspected (REAMUS) Act.
an income fee, of course only temporary cuz Bush made me do it. nt
Common_Cents (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 8:35PM EST (link)Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Don't take this the wrong way, bs
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 6:39PM EST (link)But whenever Robert Gibbs (or Geithner, or Holder, or Obama, or Biden, or……) speaks, your name comes to mind.
I cry, BS!!!!
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Bill S (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 9:02PM EST (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Be very afraid
10ksnooker (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 7:13PM EST (link)Of your health insurance company, says nanny Peloser.
Gibbs one of stupid types
Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 7:23PM EST (link)So there’s reason there going down, they have dumb idiots.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
I believe Gibbs
eliminatedebt Monday, August 3rd at 9:46PM EST (link)Because theres no way in hell Obama could increase taxes on the middle class, the Senate is smarter than that. Even the super liberal ones like Kennedy, Brown, Harkin, and Feingold wouldn’t dare touch that.
The Dems are more likely to end the Bush tax cuts a couple years early (something I believe Obama is against). I don’t know why increasing taxes is always the only option when it comes to reducing defecits, cutting spending works just as fine. Lets stop subsidizing coal, oil, food, mortgages, and federal scholarships for children from wealthy families. Lets scale back on offensive military actions and focus more on defense..
And lastly, lets give the President a line-item veto. That or just kick Cochran and Byrd off appropriations, that would save billions of dollars.
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Sure, but he's playing their hand and showing us their cards. nt
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Their cards mean nothing
eliminatedebt Monday, August 3rd at 10:01PM EST (link)If they have no power or clout to play them. Senate Democrats know we need a balanced budget and know raising taxes on anyone will get us there. Fortunately for them, they don’t get blamed for an unbalanced budget, the President always does. So they’ll do whats safe for them and not raise the taxes.
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Excuse me
Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 10:26PM EST (link)their cards still mean something because we’re taking this and using it against them. Until we finally shutdown the crud machine, thieir cards mean something.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Right.
Bill S (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 10:21PM EST (link)Like health care. And a $750B “stimulus” that stimulates nothing. And cap and trade.
Sure, the Senate won’t touch it.
Oh, and by the way – ending the Bush tax cuts will raise taxes on those making < $250K. You can be quite sure that many of us will politely (or not so) point it out.
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You know, when you think you know someone...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 10:42PM EST (link)you go and make a stupid comment like this.
First, Bill Clinton promised tax cuts for the middle class in 1992, yeah, how did that work out? Last I recall it when the opposite way.
Lets wait and see how Obama feels about the expiration of the tax cuts of the Republican Congress and President Bush from the good old years. I will bet you my taxes are going to sky rocket as a matter of fact my bonus this year was much smaller then last year after taxes for the same amount. Hmmm, 95% will not see a tax increase BS, I am in the 95%.
Offensive-defensive, the ability to wage war is not a stupid football game, offense is defense get it?
Lastly, NO line item veto for the President of the United States, you do that and you give the power of the President to punish states and certain programs, that is not the power the President should have, Obama would abuse it as he is doing with the Census. Man, I mean wow? I thought I had you wrong, now I am unsure.
You "..believe Gibbs."
janis (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 11:57PM EST (link)That concept just ruins whatever else you had to say. Give me one issue or story he has been solid on from the get-go, one decent press conference where he answered a question straight up and didn’t sound like a prevaricating fool.
Oh, and “scale back on offensive military actions and focus more on defense”? Does that translate into ” Hunker down, don’t offend anyone who might hurt you, and only start fighting when they’re coming through your personal front door”?
look
seesalrun (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 10:44PM EST (link)http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/03/video-liz-cheney-praises-righty-blogs-tears-into-obama-at-red-state-conference/#comment-2515149
hot air got the goods?
it's on youtube now.
seesalrun (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 10:46PM EST (link)pay attention people
It's amazing what one can do with a FlipVideo
ColdWarrior (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 11:14PM EST (link)in the front row of the RedState gathering!
Didn’t take them long to find it, either. <;^)
Thank you.
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seesalrun (Diary) Tuesday, August 4th at 12:05AM EST (link)I can’t believe the new trolls.
You know what they say though if no one is talking about you.
You aren’t making…
Hats off Cold Warrior, but why not Red State first?
Here's "why not Redstate first"
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, August 4th at 2:08AM EST (link)Got home.
Started uploading vids to YouTube. Liz Cheny clips first, then the Marco Rubio clips, then Michael Williams, then Nikki Haley (that’s all I had). In clips less than 10 minutes in length per YouTube rules.
Once you start, you can’t break away from the upload process or it kills all the streaming uploads. So although the Liz clips were uploaded, I had to be careful not to disturb the upload process. Some of the clips took twenty or thirty minutes to upload, even on a high-speed connection.
While I’m waiting for the rest to finish uploading, apparently someone had seen Erick’s video posting of the clip he shot with his iPhone and then did a YouTube search, finding the Liz Cheney clips I had uploaded.
While all of this is going on, I’m also working.
And helping my lovely wife with tasks relating to our four children.
Etc.
Just happy the vids are getting viewed!
Wish I had shot video of all the speakers, but my FlipVideo only holds about 25 minutes of video — will be getting a high capacity one soon.
And thanks for alerting us to the HotAir posting of the clips!
Thank you.
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ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, August 4th at 2:08AM EST (link)Got home.
Started uploading vids to YouTube. Liz Cheny clips first, then the Marco Rubio clips, then Michael Williams, then Nikki Haley (that’s all I had). In clips less than 10 minutes in length per YouTube rules.
Once you start, you can’t break away from the upload process or it kills all the streaming uploads. So although the Liz clips were uploaded, I had to be careful not to disturb the upload process. Some of the clips took twenty or thirty minutes to upload, even on a high-speed connection.
While I’m waiting for the rest to finish uploading, apparently someone had seen Erick’s video posting of the clip he shot with his iPhone and then did a YouTube search, finding the Liz Cheney clips I had uploaded.
While all of this is going on, I’m also working.
And helping my lovely wife with tasks relating to our four children.
Etc.
Just happy the vids are getting viewed!
Wish I had shot video of all the speakers, but my FlipVideo only holds about 25 minutes of video — will be getting a high capacity one soon.
And thanks for alerting us to the HotAir posting of the clips!
Thank you.
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Great job Cold Warrior! Your questions at our RS
penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, August 4th at 5:10AM EST (link)gathering were right on target and made excellent points. You know they are listening to you when the Congressman takes out a paper and pen and takes notes after you asked a question. IMO, your questions had significant impact and helped the speakers get a sense of what RS is about. It also helped those in the audience to identify goals they can work with.
My husband and I enjoyed meeting you and the talks we had. Your energy and efforts on behalf of our conservative goals is wonderful.
Now, now, I know you are going to ask me about that precinct captain thing…
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Man, you got me all wrong.....
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