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		<title>By: olsmithie</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-706</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of what the Republican candidate is, or was, it still wasn&#039;t someone, especially true conservatives, could stand behind, and say in good conscience he&#039;s our man.
Our candidate only got the votes he got was because he was the lesser of two evils, and also for Mrs. Palin.

Obama got his vote by any means possible.
The evidence is overwhelming.
And I don&#039;t think he got elected President.
I think he won American Idol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of what the Republican candidate is, or was, it still wasn&#8217;t someone, especially true conservatives, could stand behind, and say in good conscience he&#8217;s our man.<br />
Our candidate only got the votes he got was because he was the lesser of two evils, and also for Mrs. Palin.</p>
<p>Obama got his vote by any means possible.<br />
The evidence is overwhelming.<br />
And I don&#8217;t think he got elected President.<br />
I think he won American Idol.</p>
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		<title>By: phxg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>phxg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our candidate, good or bad was a stop gap to the onslaught of rampant leftist policies. And for all the conservatives that chose to abstain or even vote Obama because they were wooed by his oration, marks a difficult  realization; everything that this man stood for and did in IL was on display and available. 

So for all the banter about no candidate we could stand behind and if that is your position then by all means , rejoice in what will be delivered to our doorstep on 1/21/09. 
McCain may not have been great, heck, it pained me to vote for him. And the divisive posts and comments here leading up to his selection were monumental (Dam the RS upgrades). We lost some truly amazing exchanges getting to RS 4.0. But go back and read some of the Adam C and EPU posts. It took a good measure of sucking it up to come around to McCain. 

But what of the states like VA which has voted republican back to the 1960&#039;s going democrat? Perhaps the problem was one of &quot;punishing&quot; the republicans for straying too far. No matter what, we, as a party are at fault because for everything Obama is, his positions were not unknown. Trying to be something to everyone in the middle without a clear case as to what a core belief is was what McCain delivered, and it failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our candidate, good or bad was a stop gap to the onslaught of rampant leftist policies. And for all the conservatives that chose to abstain or even vote Obama because they were wooed by his oration, marks a difficult  realization; everything that this man stood for and did in IL was on display and available. </p>
<p>So for all the banter about no candidate we could stand behind and if that is your position then by all means , rejoice in what will be delivered to our doorstep on 1/21/09.<br />
McCain may not have been great, heck, it pained me to vote for him. And the divisive posts and comments here leading up to his selection were monumental (Dam the RS upgrades). We lost some truly amazing exchanges getting to RS 4.0. But go back and read some of the Adam C and EPU posts. It took a good measure of sucking it up to come around to McCain. </p>
<p>But what of the states like VA which has voted republican back to the 1960&#8242;s going democrat? Perhaps the problem was one of &#8220;punishing&#8221; the republicans for straying too far. No matter what, we, as a party are at fault because for everything Obama is, his positions were not unknown. Trying to be something to everyone in the middle without a clear case as to what a core belief is was what McCain delivered, and it failed.</p>
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		<title>By: madsjim</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>feel much better about the future state of the economy when hearing Reagan&#039;s words.  I just can&#039;t believe that it is even possible to spend over a trillion dollars, let alone the couple of trillion predicted.  Obama lets it roll of his tongue just like it was one of his campaign promises.  You should have your son study economics along with civics to help him understand monetary and fiscal policy, deficits of this size couldn&#039;t possibly help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>feel much better about the future state of the economy when hearing Reagan&#8217;s words.  I just can&#8217;t believe that it is even possible to spend over a trillion dollars, let alone the couple of trillion predicted.  Obama lets it roll of his tongue just like it was one of his campaign promises.  You should have your son study economics along with civics to help him understand monetary and fiscal policy, deficits of this size couldn&#8217;t possibly help.</p>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>gekster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: phxg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>phxg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And also to remember how tough it was to do business from 1981-1985. Just imagine how bad things would have been if the natural economy building as promoted by Reagan was replaced by this Obama spend till we feel good plan. That amazing growth period after 1988 pretty much till 2006 would never have occurred. 

Personally, I&#039;m not all that bothered by where we are right now as my business improves as the economy declines. However, this is natural. I am afraid of what the US economy will look like in 2015-2025 if this spending takes place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And also to remember how tough it was to do business from 1981-1985. Just imagine how bad things would have been if the natural economy building as promoted by Reagan was replaced by this Obama spend till we feel good plan. That amazing growth period after 1988 pretty much till 2006 would never have occurred. </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not all that bothered by where we are right now as my business improves as the economy declines. However, this is natural. I am afraid of what the US economy will look like in 2015-2025 if this spending takes place.</p>
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		<title>By: Praying</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Praying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much we needed Ronald Reagan right now... For more inspiration from Reagan, visit Heritage.com.  Even my 16 year old misses this great leader, and he wasn&#039;t even conceived yet when Reagan was in office (the benefits of private Christian school as opposed to our government schools. He also scored 98 on the Civics quiz that was going around a few months ago - the one that the average congressional score on was something like... 44! (yes, 44 out of 100.  Sad)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much we needed Ronald Reagan right now&#8230; For more inspiration from Reagan, visit Heritage.com.  Even my 16 year old misses this great leader, and he wasn&#8217;t even conceived yet when Reagan was in office (the benefits of private Christian school as opposed to our government schools. He also scored 98 on the Civics quiz that was going around a few months ago &#8211; the one that the average congressional score on was something like&#8230; 44! (yes, 44 out of 100.  Sad)</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have a fight with your wife over the Cardinals versus the Royals in the 1985 World Series.  That was a near-divorce experience in our house...

(Sorry for that almost-certain threadjack, but I had to do it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have a fight with your wife over the Cardinals versus the Royals in the 1985 World Series.  That was a near-divorce experience in our house&#8230;</p>
<p>(Sorry for that almost-certain threadjack, but I had to do it)</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain in 2000 made W in 2000 look great by comparison. Nobody was all that excited about W... till McCain came on the scene trying to court bored Democrats by ripping on tax cuts and flip-flopping on abortion. No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain in 2000 made W in 2000 look great by comparison. Nobody was all that excited about W&#8230; till McCain came on the scene trying to court bored Democrats by ripping on tax cuts and flip-flopping on abortion. No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: birdmojo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>birdmojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But let&#039;s compare the debate, once again, to the Pro-Life debate.

Remember the abortion debate, originally, hinged on the whole &quot;but what about rape/incest/mother&#039;s life in danger?&quot; question.

Nobody was arguing that there should be partial-birth abortions. It all had to do with rape/incest/mother&#039;s life exceptions.

And, next thing you know, there are debates over whether states have the right to make partial birth abortions illegal. Not whether states have the right to make them *LEGAL*, but whether to make them illegal again.

Compare back to the Fiscal Conservative debate.

&quot;Surely, without this $700B package, the world, as we know it, will end!!!&quot;

And it gets passed.

And now folks are expressing surprise at what happens next.

That sound you hear are The Gods of the Copybook Headings clearing their throats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But let&#8217;s compare the debate, once again, to the Pro-Life debate.</p>
<p>Remember the abortion debate, originally, hinged on the whole &#8220;but what about rape/incest/mother&#8217;s life in danger?&#8221; question.</p>
<p>Nobody was arguing that there should be partial-birth abortions. It all had to do with rape/incest/mother&#8217;s life exceptions.</p>
<p>And, next thing you know, there are debates over whether states have the right to make partial birth abortions illegal. Not whether states have the right to make them *LEGAL*, but whether to make them illegal again.</p>
<p>Compare back to the Fiscal Conservative debate.</p>
<p>&#8220;Surely, without this $700B package, the world, as we know it, will end!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>And it gets passed.</p>
<p>And now folks are expressing surprise at what happens next.</p>
<p>That sound you hear are The Gods of the Copybook Headings clearing their throats.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy Geithner created the original TARP program while he was the hed of the Fed Bank in New York, it wasn&#039;t Bush or Paulson.

Granted Bush pushed the plan to congress and Paulson sold it by claiming disator if it failed, but in reality Obama&#039;s new economic team is headed by the man who created the plan.

Also I don&#039;t really think that the President or Congress really had to authorize the TARP plan since it really wasn&#039;t a matter of monetary policy, it was a matter of the Fed doing something, which they could do because they are independent of the Government for the most part.

I think both the R&#039;s in congress and the President did themselves the disservice of allowing this to be hung around there necks...which is more about them being stupid then anything else.

You know I am no fan of the TARP or any other bailout by any other name, but the point of my post is that McCain failed to show that Obama&#039;s character should indeed be questioned, this allowed Obama to lie without any chance of the people catching on or even questioning whether or not he was lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Geithner created the original TARP program while he was the hed of the Fed Bank in New York, it wasn&#8217;t Bush or Paulson.</p>
<p>Granted Bush pushed the plan to congress and Paulson sold it by claiming disator if it failed, but in reality Obama&#8217;s new economic team is headed by the man who created the plan.</p>
<p>Also I don&#8217;t really think that the President or Congress really had to authorize the TARP plan since it really wasn&#8217;t a matter of monetary policy, it was a matter of the Fed doing something, which they could do because they are independent of the Government for the most part.</p>
<p>I think both the R&#8217;s in congress and the President did themselves the disservice of allowing this to be hung around there necks&#8230;which is more about them being stupid then anything else.</p>
<p>You know I am no fan of the TARP or any other bailout by any other name, but the point of my post is that McCain failed to show that Obama&#8217;s character should indeed be questioned, this allowed Obama to lie without any chance of the people catching on or even questioning whether or not he was lying.</p>
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		<title>By: ZootSuit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>ZootSuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so there is no misunderstanding, in the 2000 Republican Primary in New Hampshire, I voted for Bush but my wife voted for John McCain. I started a fight with her because of that.

I know think that, despite all his failings, between the two, McCain would have been the better President in 2000 (and 2004).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so there is no misunderstanding, in the 2000 Republican Primary in New Hampshire, I voted for Bush but my wife voted for John McCain. I started a fight with her because of that.</p>
<p>I know think that, despite all his failings, between the two, McCain would have been the better President in 2000 (and 2004).</p>
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		<title>By: ZootSuit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>ZootSuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, with that big-government liberal in the White House named George W. Bush, I don&#039;t think any Republican could have done better no matter what they did.

The problem is the liberal Bush Presidency that we conservatives failed to condemn when it was showing itself as liberal. Let&#039;s remember, it was George W. Bush (and neither Obama nor McCain) who came up with these &quot;bailout&quot; ideals.

Truthfully, I wish John McCain had one the Presidency in 2000: I now think he would have been a much better President than George W. Bush. Gitmo aside, I think McCain would have handled the GWOT better than Bush (see: &quot;surge&quot;) and at least with McCain we would not have gotten MediCare Part D. George W. Bush even signed CFR into law.

And I say this as someone who started his posts on RedState by saying &quot;I hate McCain ...&quot; and how started a fight with my wife in 2000 because we lived in New Hampshire and voted for McCain instead of Bush, like me.

I hate to admit that she was right but she was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, with that big-government liberal in the White House named George W. Bush, I don&#8217;t think any Republican could have done better no matter what they did.</p>
<p>The problem is the liberal Bush Presidency that we conservatives failed to condemn when it was showing itself as liberal. Let&#8217;s remember, it was George W. Bush (and neither Obama nor McCain) who came up with these &#8220;bailout&#8221; ideals.</p>
<p>Truthfully, I wish John McCain had one the Presidency in 2000: I now think he would have been a much better President than George W. Bush. Gitmo aside, I think McCain would have handled the GWOT better than Bush (see: &#8220;surge&#8221;) and at least with McCain we would not have gotten MediCare Part D. George W. Bush even signed CFR into law.</p>
<p>And I say this as someone who started his posts on RedState by saying &#8220;I hate McCain &#8230;&#8221; and how started a fight with my wife in 2000 because we lived in New Hampshire and voted for McCain instead of Bush, like me.</p>
<p>I hate to admit that she was right but she was.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article:
&lt;blockquote&gt; Most likely, this tepid response from Republicans represents both a typical conservative reluctance to increase government spending by such a large amount, as well as a negative reaction to the fact that the plan is being pushed by the Democratic president-elect.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How perceptive of them, especially on the first part...which was the point of this diary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:</p>
<blockquote><p> Most likely, this tepid response from Republicans represents both a typical conservative reluctance to increase government spending by such a large amount, as well as a negative reaction to the fact that the plan is being pushed by the Democratic president-elect.
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<p>How perceptive of them, especially on the first part&#8230;which was the point of this diary.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.gallup.com/poll/113701/Majority-Americans-Favor-775-Billion-Economic-Stimulus.aspx

I choose to &quot;opt out&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>http://www.gallup.com/poll/113701/Majority-Americans-Favor-775-Billion-Economic-Stimulus.aspx</p>
<p>I choose to &#8220;opt out&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>against McCain who I detest.  You can get going on Fred because he is my favorite political teacher.  I am still a Fredhead, and will always be.  Also, gazillions of us played the good soldier part and wore our gas masks to the voting booth, I almost wore rubber gloves as well, as I would not ever want my fingerprints on a vote for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>against McCain who I detest.  You can get going on Fred because he is my favorite political teacher.  I am still a Fredhead, and will always be.  Also, gazillions of us played the good soldier part and wore our gas masks to the voting booth, I almost wore rubber gloves as well, as I would not ever want my fingerprints on a vote for him.</p>
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		<title>By: phxg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media failed to present the Obama as he is. The hype of Obama captivated the ignorant (and not so ignorant) with a belief that he is capable of things heretofore never been accomplished. Fellow citizens have been cowed to believe that a democrat, any democrat will deliver onto them the euphoria of Bill Clinton&#039;s &#039;90&#039;s again. 

66.8MM people cast a vote for Obama. How many of these people really believe that The One will deliver to them cash, prosperity and bliss? I know members of my family (not blood relatives of course) believe 100% that Obama is going to take care of them. And they are in positions to be hurt by his policies on wealth redistribution. And I explained till I was blue in the face how they can and will be hurt, but to no avail. 

So whether we voted for or against Obama we as a nation have now a problem that will affect every person, young, old black or white. That our nation will move left towards socialism and ultimately the failings of what socialism is will bring about greater pain then what our current financial problem has. 

We as Republicans and as a nation deserve this because we as a group did not stand and demand from our media, our state representatives and our national officials to follow the ideals we desire. The ideals that are America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media failed to present the Obama as he is. The hype of Obama captivated the ignorant (and not so ignorant) with a belief that he is capable of things heretofore never been accomplished. Fellow citizens have been cowed to believe that a democrat, any democrat will deliver onto them the euphoria of Bill Clinton&#8217;s &#8217;90&#8242;s again. </p>
<p>66.8MM people cast a vote for Obama. How many of these people really believe that The One will deliver to them cash, prosperity and bliss? I know members of my family (not blood relatives of course) believe 100% that Obama is going to take care of them. And they are in positions to be hurt by his policies on wealth redistribution. And I explained till I was blue in the face how they can and will be hurt, but to no avail. </p>
<p>So whether we voted for or against Obama we as a nation have now a problem that will affect every person, young, old black or white. That our nation will move left towards socialism and ultimately the failings of what socialism is will bring about greater pain then what our current financial problem has. </p>
<p>We as Republicans and as a nation deserve this because we as a group did not stand and demand from our media, our state representatives and our national officials to follow the ideals we desire. The ideals that are America.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/01/09/10000-rpm/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really miss him and his timeless wisdom.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the housing market had a great deal to do with the eventual financial collapse I just decided to save myself the keystrokes.</description>
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