Comments on: How Badly Has Congress Screwed Up Ethanol?

By: JoeG

JoeG — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:17:33 +0000

I assumed that the computer must have a sensor to identify the fuel mix and adjust the mixture and timing as needed to run right on higher alcohol mixes.

By: ststeever

ststeever — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:48:22 +0000

how they feel about gov’t involvement in everything they do. Or read the following. If you are a conservative, please consider that there are heck of a lot of farmers that are on your side, and they don’t all wear corn rings.
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NDFB Says No to Farm Payments — In a vote for less government intrusion, delegates to the North Dakota Farm Bureau annual convention passed policy stating that all government farm program payments should be eliminated. “Our people were adamant that darn near everything that’s wrong today in our country is wrong because government’s got their fingers in too much of what we do,” said NDFB President Eric Aasmundstad, “To me, this is a heck of a strong statement that just says let us do what we do best and get out of our hair, and no, we don’t want your money either.” Aasmundstad says the policy against farm program payments was driven by young NDFB delegates.
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The following statement was issued November 21 by NDFB President Eric Aasmundstad:

“Delegates to the North Dakota Farm Bureau convention unanimously approved a policy at the 67th annual convention and requested that it be sent immediately to the Senators Kent Conrad and Byron Dorgan.

“The policy is as follows:

We oppose a government takeover of the health care system, support tort reform and free market competition, oppose socialization of medical health care option, and oppose inclusion of any public option of national health care.

U.S Representatives and U.S. Senators who are creating a nationwide health care program should be required to also be covered by that nationwide plan.

“Our membership has spoken very clearly on this issue, and the message was sent today following the conclusion of the delegate session.”
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Read it in full here:
http://www.ndfb.org/news/default.asp?ID=494

By: youthgrunt

youthgrunt — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:20:34 +0000

first, does not lubricate adequately and will dramatically shorten the life of your engine. Second, cooking oil would probably fill the place that Soy Biodiesel fills, but that does not satisfy the RFS 2 demands.

By the way, if you use higher than 5% biodiesel, your engine manufacturer will probably not honor your warranty.

By: olddog

olddog — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:51:21 +0000

design cars and fuels and economies,. is like letting non military C.I.C.’s design battle plans, incrementally like Nam ,like Afghanistan etc..
Yeah that’ll work!!! How’s that change working for you?
One Old Dog

By: Neil Stevens

Neil Stevens — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:08:52 +0000

By: Vladimir

Vladimir — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:03:04 +0000

By: mschmitt

mschmitt — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:49:34 +0000

This would never be a problem for them.

Perhaps the easiest way for the country to absorb all the excess ethanol…

By: mschmitt

mschmitt — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:37:50 +0000

answered [Link Edited - NS] my own question.

By: mschmitt

mschmitt — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:30:20 +0000

… just trying to scam people into buying your amazing do-nothing miracle product? Just wondering…

By: LDahl752

LDahl752 — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:23:05 +0000

It happened in a Twin Cities suburb. So, they decided to leave them running overnight. How’s that for an efficient use of fuel?

By: LDahl752

LDahl752 — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:19:10 +0000

ethanol was promoted and subsidized, wasn’t it? I remember reading a couple of years ago of the rising concern about the diversion of corn to ethanol production would lead to global food shortages. And I know of ethanol plants being built in Minnesota nearly ten years ago.

By: jamesmlowe

jamesmlowe — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:02:20 +0000

The EPA and DOE are "sitting on" a major invention called the PreIgnition Catalytic Carburetor at this time that would extend and improve the use of ethanol as it is right now. They are forbidding it to come on the open market in the USA. They are deliberately stalling on it and NOT letting it be sold to Americans thereby keeping the price and efficiency of Ethanol artificially high. Tests have shown the test vehicle presented to the DOE and EPA to get Over a hundred miles per gallon from virtually any ethanol mix. Ethanol could be used in even higher mixtures than already exist PLUS all the fuel is burned in the engine making SUV, Pickup trucks and regular cars give off NO pollution and water vapor pure only. Is the government stupid, paid off or what?

By: mosander

mosander — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:59:53 +0000

Once again the political establishment should stay out of rearranging fuel. Ethanol gas has cause the destruction of many lawnmowers, marine motors and weed whackers. Why? Because ethanol causes O rings and fuel lines to swell rendering operation impossible. It is not good for automobiles either. Marine and aviation fuel does not contain ethanol because of this. Most people operating small engines just buys from a regular gas pump. A good mechanic can fix these engines, but most people just throw them away. I know because my husband retrieves them and fixes them. A better solution is biodiesel for DIESEL vehicles. It is clean, smells like french fries and is much less poluting. Hard to use in cold weather without preheaters.

By: ubetcha

ubetcha — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:36:10 +0000

And it does run pretty smooth in a diesel motor. I hear the ones with a “pre-combustion” chamber are preferred like the v-8 put in the Fords that was made by international.

By: kyle8

kyle8 — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:53:12 +0000

certain parts like O-rings that might corrode with high alcohol fuel are made from more expensive products that are more corrosion resistant.

By: mbecker908

mbecker908 — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:52:30 +0000

on E85 is significantly higher than the cost to drive with gasoline. The mileage is significantly lower with E85. The exhaust is apparently hotter than with gas and the catalytic converter will likely go away in about 50K miles as opposed to 160K with gas.

Oh, and have you found a pump that sells E85?????

By: JoeG

JoeG — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:46:31 +0000

Wifey’s minivan is E85 capable, but I’ve never run E85 in it, it has only seen E10.

By: JoeG

JoeG — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:43:57 +0000

The federal government insists that ethanol is poisoned unless a consumption tax is paid.

The federal government would rather poison you than let you get away with tax evasion.

By: NightTwister

NightTwister — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:57:02 +0000

Part of it is the nature of being from the Eastern Plains. The other part is, everyone is against everyone else’s government handout, but not their own. Until that attitude changes, our government representatives won’t.

It’s why I’m excited about the candicacy of Diggs Brown . He’s been a small businessman. He’s fought for us in Afghanistan. From what I know of him, he’d do what he can to put a stop to these handouts from Washington and get back to small governance.

By: tinkerbell2479

tinkerbell2479 — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:02:07 +0000

Gardner did support the bill which mandated that all gas contain 10% ethanol – direct subsisdy no but government interference in the free market absolutely.

He also worked with Ritter on the Energy Office which is pushing the windfarm “green energy job” – maybe he should have talked with Pickens first who lost an enormous amount of money trying to make wind energy work.

He also added an amendment to the energy office bill to fund universities in the area of energy – how about letting the free market do this instead of subsidizing higher ed??