Comments on: Who’s Doing More for Economic Growth: Barack Obama or George Bush?

By: Lynda

Lynda — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:55:11 +0000

to watch kingO Wednesday night as he gave his 264th speech since taking office 262 days before…..
But there has enough recapping of that speech that it really didn’t matter and to top it off, he felt the need to make another speech Thursday morning to nurses, “I just love nurses” he says….if I were Michelle, I would keep a close watch on him. We all know how Washington, D.C. seems to effect the libido of politicians, aides, secretaries and others who drink the water!!
kingO is working very hard to push thru HIS healthcare bill….he makes it sound like the sky will fall if it doesn’t get passed now even though it won’t take effect for several years!! What is the gosh darn hurry?? He has mentioned several times historical milestones, namely past Presidents who were remembered because of something they did. kingO wants to be remembered as the president who changed the direction of the United States of America and his second step is healthcare because it effects our economy in dozens of ways. If he can institute a change there, he can continue on with his plan! His first step, his stimulus package was just the first arrow that he has shot into our economy. It’s effects have been negative when you consider all of the Americans who are now out of work because of it. And during kingO’s remarks to his favorite kind of women, he mentioned the huge numbers of folks who have lost their health insurance in the last few months….I nearly fell from my chair when he said that. Does he really think that people are so stupid that they can’t or won’t see that they lost their insurance because of what he has done?? The folks who are struggling trying to find work know better than anyone who is responsible!!

By: michigan

michigan — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:49:24 +0000

The worst is yet to come I think as well. I remember the early 80’s with interest rates well into the teens after the Carter years; this could be a replay of that or worse. Some say hyperinflation is possible and even the Chi-Coms are so shaky on this administration’s policies, that they are making sounds like capitalists, warning us of dire results of this fiscal madness. Keynesian economics has been hijacked by the left as a vehicle to their political ends such as the Islamofacists have done with a religion.
I enjoyed your distillation of the different “flavors” of communism and images came to mind from years past beginning when I was very young of watching evening news clips showing the horrors of escaping East Berlin; individuals, couples and groups being shot down like game by tower guards. Nikita Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the podium, threatening to “bury” us. The threat of a USSR nuclear attack, duck and cover in grade school, a missile crisis in our hemisphere, the aggressive nature of that ideology to control humanity. Communism was demonized back then. That type of reporting and those burning images are gone from the contemporary MSM landscape.
When speaking to most young people about communism, there is usually a blank stare and they launch into the evils of capitalism. Of recent, Ed Schultz on his leftist radio program said “why are they afraid of a little Marxism or Socialism?” Bill O’Reilly stated a few nights ago interviewing Glenn Beck “communism isn’t a threat any longer in this country.” This is the mindset that opens the door to usher in what we now have in our highest office. Perhaps President Reagan did us, in the free world, a great disservice by eliminating a world model of evil by saying those famous words, “Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall.”
The metastasizing communist cancer has been reduced to an intellectual discussion, not even a debate. The youth that grew up without visual and aural reflection of it now infiltrate the newsrooms and halls of academia.
The exact human controls that are trying to be imposed on us now in this country and elsewhere throughout history were revolted against by the founding fathers of America.
I think a little Marx and Engels with coffee this morning would be appropriate.

By: Achance

Achance — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:26:42 +0000

on people with fixed incomes or who work for wages. Comrade Obama will be able to brag that there is no inflation because the CPI will be flat or even negative because shelter is such a huge component of BLS’ market basket. While there is no inflation as measured by the CPI, the cost of everything real people have to buy on a daily or weekly basis is going up. But, since the CPI isn’t going up, nobody on SS or who has a pension can get an increase because they’re all linked to CPI. Likewise, wage earners can’t get increases because of stagnant or falling demand for labor. Even unions won’t be able to get much out of private or third sector employers for the same reasons. If they pass Card Check there’ll be a whole lot of wage inflation in the early years as they “organize” new employers and get their first contracts from arbitrators, but after that, the employers will start shedding labor and that will drive down the price of labor.

It is going to be a grim, gray world for a very long time. I went through something like it after the oil price crash in ’86; it was miserable.

By: kyle8

kyle8 — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:12:37 +0000

even if we do get a small expansion, which I expect by end of year, it will quickly be stiffeled by the huge debt. There is simply no way that Geithner and Bernanke will be able to stop inflation.

There will be a growing political pressure to inflate the economy. I expect that he weaker dollar will cause much higher commodity and fuel prices and that will also stifle expansion.

By: Achance

Achance — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:09:02 +0000

The only way they can satisfy their mob of looters and moochers is to confiscate our property and income. The only real question is do they do it by direct state action, e.g., the ACORN guy comes over and tells you how many families are moving into your house, or do they do it by taxation or inflation. There really is no other alternative.

The worst part is that nothing Comrade Obama can do will actually satisfy them. The question soon becomes, “What have you done for me lately?”

By: kyle8

kyle8 — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:07:01 +0000

By: Brian Faughnan

Brian Faughnan — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:59:49 +0000

I trust that you are kidding, because the alternative is that you are a moron.

Just in case you’re a moron, this is how you read a CBO score: if CBO says that a given policy – such as Bush’s two significant tax packages – result in a ‘loss of revenue,’ it means a loss of revenue *to the federal government.* CBO sort of assumes that the money belongs to the government, so if the revenue is ‘lost,’ that’s CBO’s way of saying it somehow got left in the hands of the people who earned it.

Put simply, tax cuts=lost revenue.

You know what though? I apologize for calling you a moron. It probably would have been kinder to say ‘you think like a liberal,’ which means more or less the same thing, but doesn’t sound quite as insulting.

By: Mike gamecock DeVine

Mike gamecock DeVine — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:45:10 +0000

is now over. The other reason for the end of gdp losses was the reaching of the bottom in housing prices in selective areas, but the remaining areas that have not reached bottom are a major threat of a double dip.

But the main problem that puts a ceiling on any recovery os that ObamaDem policies discourage business expansion and formation; have since dems took over Congress in 2007 and have only gotten exponentially worse since Inauguration Day.

By: mom2oneson

mom2oneson — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:42:46 +0000

for some help with moving some heavy stuff out of my apartment to the dumpster. Occasionally through the years I have gone there and hired someone to help me with things like that since I can’t lift it all myself. I couldn’t believe how many posters were on there saying they would do any jobs.They were obviously the ambitious type looking for work posting on Craigslist not the waiting for a call type from an application they put in. Two years ago I was happy just to find someone that wasn’t a moving company and that had time!

By: archer52

archer52 — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:05:54 +0000

She is a talented artist and home designer/decorator. Been in business for years and this year she just flattened out. She gets up every day and starts all over trying to find work. Something I just admire in her, because I couldn’t do it myself.

In today’s market where good honest dependable people are harder to find she stands out as the type of person you would want next to you on a project; on time, on budget and in focus.

Yet, she is turned away again and again. Mostly the people she did do work for are now gone. Two thirds of the Chamber membership is out of business of left town to find work elsewhere.

This economy will recover, not as fast as those that didn’t take the stimulus route. I understand several are already out of the recession.

But with Obama driving this economy like a five year old with a sugar high, it may take longer.

By: Jack_Savage

Jack_Savage — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:01:55 +0000

My territory is in VA, which is in awful shape, but some of my good buddies are in FL and it has been very bad there for a LONG time. I can say without any fear of being wrong that under the current administration’s policies, commercial construction figures will be worse in 2010 than in 2009, and that is when we will see some people go under. A lot of them, in fact.

We hire the best to forecast for us, and do you know when they say things will turn?

2011.

I wonder why.

By: Michael Dugas

Michael Dugas — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:44:43 +0000

I’m just south of Tampa in Bradenton and work here is in serious decline. Praise G-d I’m working but it’s as close to dead as I have ever seen it an I’m 32 years in trade. My office phone and cell phone ring all day with people begging for work, offering to work at greatly reduced wages and willing to do anything. It tears me up.
We do mostly all commercial construction, some multifamily or custom residential if one of out commercial clients asks. We happen to have a really good reputation in this area and that plus our constant work at keeping overhead really low has enabled us to competitively bid what work there is and keep most of our hourly guys working with only a couple of short down times. Things are extremely tense and alot of us are very worried by the fact that what work we are getting is almost exclusively tax dollar infrastructure work. Schools, state and county projects etc. In the last 5 months I have only had one job that was a private business enterprise and that contract had been signed for 13 months.
The steady emptying of commercial/retail space all over the area and stagnant and or declining economic growth from private enterprise scares me …..seriously.
To go on television and try to pass off to the country that the recession is over and that we’re on the rebound is a self serving
lie with the only growth being the growth of government, growth of the deficit and the growth in the number of lies Obama is going to have to try and remember…or at least his speech writer will.

By: yoyo

yoyo — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:43:30 +0000

The only jobs he has saved are the ‘green jobs.’

Astroturf is green, right? ACORN trees are green, right?

By: yoyo

yoyo — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:37:31 +0000

I yelled it all night last night during his speech. LIAR LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!

I think I owe the President an apology for my lack of decorum and manners interrupting his speech. I have already apologized to my family….

‘:o)~

On second thought, NAH.

I was actually waiting for the lightning to strike him down a couple of times. There just seemed to be too much sunshine and roses for lightning, I guess.

Still, it doesn’t take away from the fact that kewe is, well, … never mind. “…nothing good to say, don’t say anything…” and all that.

Greg

By: Common_Cents

Common_Cents — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:59:29 +0000

That should replace MSM as MSM gives them wayyyy too much credit.

By: nessa

nessa — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:54:33 +0000

…and ending with “please do not insult the intelligence of your readers”, I don’t know, maybe not the best choice of words there. Still LMAO!

By: Rod_Patrick

Rod_Patrick — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:51:43 +0000

By: DONTREADONME

DONTREADONME — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:49:04 +0000

which leads me to believe that 1) he has no idea what he is talking about and 2) he never read the health coverage bill that he claimed in another thread where he said liar, liar.

Oclever, XBox sight, lol. I think he missed the point of this whole post. We pretty much can say that GW saved 30 million jobs after 2001 because he prevented further terrorist attacks. And the I can predict the weather tomorrow, Partly to Mostly cloudy, with a 50% chance of rain and it will be somewhere over 50F. I love these guys, the guy pulls a few quotes and Voila’ he’s a genius. Never ceases to amaze me.

By: Moe Lane

Moe Lane — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:46:44 +0000

My wife would laugh her head off if she ever caught me calling myself a ‘rational adult.’

Moe Lane

PS: Yes, he’s gone. While it’s amusing to see somebody rant about Birchers, it’s an amusement that soon palls.

By: nessa

nessa — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:45:32 +0000