Comprehensive Immigration Reform Slated for Fall Action


Can Democrats Pass a Bill After Poisoning the Well?

According to the Hill, Congressional Democrats are planning to run up a trial balloon on comprehensive immigration reform in June, and then take a crack at passing a bill late this year or next:

Senate Democrats may be close to 60 votes on a measure that would represent the first step towards immigration reform under President Obama.

The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act is a concept dear to Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin’s (D-Ill.) heart, and while health care reform may get this summer’s headlines in Washington, the DREAM Act may be a sleeper…

The White House has scheduled a June 8 meeting among members of Congress on immigration reform. And President Barack Obama, a close ally of Durbin, has publicly declared his commitment to the overall idea…

Strategically, the [DREAM] legislation is likely to be rolled into an overall immigration bill to attract votes. Durbin says he has the votes to pass the bill, for example, but prefers to do it as part of a comprehensive immigration package…

The only sticking point appears to be timing and logistics — Democratic leaders are unsure if a comprehensive bill can be drafted before the end of the year. Schumer’s subcommittee will insist on input, as well as possibly other committees, and the looming fight over health care reform may push the issue into 2010…

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) appears on board with the idea, telling the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in a recent speech that he is “committed to offering this year comprehensive immigration reform that is strong, practical and fair.”

The Senate’s new math has put an overall immigration package within reach: At least 57 senators from both parties are likely to support such a comprehensive approach, with another 7 on the fence.

Newly converted Democrat Arlen Specter (Pa.) is “reviewing the legislation and considering his position” but is “in favor of comprehensive immigration reform in general,” according to a spokesman, and in other cases election results or appointments have put the necessary 60 votes within reach…

Far be it from me to suggest that Democrat leaders would ever do anything disingenuous, but I can’t help but wonder if they’re promising passage of legislation that they expect will fail. It’s clear that there’s a lot of active opposition to immigration reform including amnesty, and that the opposition becomes louder, more organized, and more effective the closer Congress comes to a vote. Durbin, Reid, Pelosi, Obama, et al, are certainly aware that Democrats in swing states and districts regard this as an extremely dangerous vote – one that can cost them their seats. Notwithstanding the decisive Democrat margin of control in the House and Senate, this will be an extremely heavy lift.

Given those circumstances, a cynic might suggest that Democrat leaders are raising false hopes, with the full knowledge that their own members will desert them when it comes time to vote. They won’t portray it that way, of course; they’ll do their best to pin the blame on Republicans. And hey: it worked under President Bush – when there were plenty of Republican leaders who supported the goal.

Comprehensive immigration reform will have far less Republican support this time around, because President Obama and his allies in the latino community attacked John McCain shamelessly during the campaign, with ads like this one:

Whether you agree with the goal or not, McCain stuck his neck out on a politically risky issue, and Barack Obama attacked him for it in a vicious, shameful, dishonest attack. And McCain’s ‘friends’ in the hispanic community said nothing. As a result, Obama and the Democrats will likely have to pass immigration reform almost entirely on their own, and it’s not at all clear they can manage it.

If they fail, do you think they’ll own take the blame for poisoning the well of bipartisanship?


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It'll be 1200 pages long

snewb098 Monday, May 25th at 11:23AM EST (link)

and they will submit it Friday Labor Day weekend
and then vote it through the following tuesday.
That’s their game. 2 years ago it failed because we
had 2 weeks to hear what was in it.
Now they just rush these things through and
they will try that with Cap & Trade and
HealthScare reform. Someone in congress should
pass a law requiring 2 weeks for everyone to read a bill
before voting on it. Make sense?

 

I dont agree with you Brian, they can pass anything they want

kyle8 (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 11:40AM EST (link)

on immigration at any time they want to. Let there be no doubt what this is, we will eventually lose all of our South western states to a strange melange of spanglish speakers with little connection to the rest of the united states, and a willingness to blindly give their vote to the Democrats.

This is what they democrats want. When Texas finally becomes California there will be no way to come back.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

We'll see

Brian Faughnan (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 2:18PM EST (link)

The Democrats promise, and promise, and promise on this. But as long as they do not pass it, they have a political issue with which to hammer Republicans as racist and xenophobic. It worked for them in 2008, when they ran against the most pro-amnesty GOPer in modern history, and nevertheless ran up huge margins in the hispanic community.

Until things change, they have the best of both worlds: the Blue Dogs in marginal seats can vote to protect the borders (when an amnesty vote would cost them their seats). And they can wave the ‘bloody shirt’ of supposed Republican racism. If you’re a Democratic leader, why would you want to pass an amnesty, and ruin a great thing?

The key thing is the latino leadership: they continue to protect Democrats who promise the moon and deliver nothing. And Democrats are doing better among latino voters, whose leaders won’t tell them the truth: that Democrats will continue to use them as long as they can do so with no cost.

I think this is a dead-on analysis.

jeffreywturner (Diary) Tuesday, May 26th at 12:05AM EST (link)

In a similar vain, do you ever wonder why Democrats are so opposed to attaching minimum-wage to inflation with automatic adjustments? It is because they would rather keep the issue alive to use as a weapon.

I think it is the same with immigration. They don’t actually want to address it, they just want to be able to use it as a weapon to paint Republicans as racists.

I doubt they will actually pass it, even though I am sure they could if they actually wanted to. If they actually do, they will probably cause Pennsylvania & Ohio to become solid red states and Arizona & New Mexico to become solid blue.

“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”

 
 
 

If the Democrats pass amnesty they can kiss the House goodbye

spainishirish (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 11:51AM EST (link)

in 2010 and the Senate and White House goodbye in 2012. And they probably know it, so this is just a pander to left-wing interest groups like La Raza –which also probably realizes this will never happen.

how you figure?

kyle8 (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 11:56AM EST (link)

Most Americans will be hunky dory that they “did something” about the problem and didn’t punish those poor hard working latinos.

Not even all conservatives will be angry about it. there has always been a large number of big business Republicans who love unhampered immigration.

No, it wont hurt them one bit, likely in the long run it means continued Democrat control of the house for a few generations.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

They will lose swing districts where the issue

spainishirish (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 12:00PM EST (link)

is toxic. I disagree with you here, kyle. It will hurt them. In the long-term, as you pointed out, it would give the Dems a lock but short-term it is a killer in poll after poll. This is probably kabuki.

Would "help" them long-term.

spainishirish (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 12:01PM EST (link)

Brain freeze.

I disagreee

jeffreywturner (Diary) Tuesday, May 26th at 12:07AM EST (link)

Once they pass it, they won’t have the issue anymore, and Latinos might actually start looking at Democratic stances on other issues, where they are much more in line with the GOP.

“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”

 
 
 
 

Doubt it.

mikefisk (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 12:47PM EST (link)

You realize the mobilizing factor of the mainstream Democratic base voter is not anything to do with policy – it’s the blind, all-consuming hate for any politician that doesn’t have a D next to their name. My concern is that not only will this pass, but they will use their lap-dogs in the mainstream media to make this sound like a revolutionary endeavor, and they end up gaining seats rather than losing them.

I dislike going into hyperbole, but what we are seeing in this country is a plain and simple personality cult the likes of which hasn’t been seen in America before. These things have happened in the past in Latin America, most recently Venezuela, but not here.

…sadly, I think the path of the modern Democratic party is not to serve as a foil to Chavez’s Bolivarian Revolution but rather to outpace it.

“Once within the maw of Leviathan, degree of digestion is irrelevant.” – Michael Fisk

9.25, -4.77

 

They Have No Intention Of Passing CIR

rcov092 (Diary) Tuesday, May 26th at 12:25AM EST (link)

this will just be the next distraction to keep us looking in another direction while they try to sneak something equally evil through and in the bargain use the effort to paint us as racist.

Not even the Unions (rabid open borders advocates) are willing to go out on this limb now with unemployment topping 9% and facing the prosepct of losing millions of jobs at Chrysler, Government Motors and the suppliers.

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

But Then Athought On How they Can Help The Poor Downtrodden

rcov092 (Diary) Tuesday, May 26th at 12:27AM EST (link)

Move The Chrysler and Government Motors plants to Mexico and build jobs there and make the bloated cancer infested UAW laden dead car manufacturers more competitive.

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

 
 
 

This is treason

DerKrieger (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 11:58AM EST (link)

The willful destruction of the United States is a treasonous act. In my opinion the importation and granting of citizenship to tens of millions of foreigners with no desire to become Americans in the true sense of the name should be punishable by a long term in federal prison.

That the Democrats would undermine our country to perpetuate their own power is simply stunning. Do they not care about their own children? Do they not care about the long term viability of our nation?

For a glimpse of our future one need only look at what’s happening in Europe with regard to the colonization of the continent by Muslims.

Speaking out against mass immigration there can literally get you thrown in jail. The Eurocrats in Brussels are as arrogant and disconnected as are our own Democrats. When, if, normal Europeans ever decide to take back their countries many a Eurocrat will head to the guillotine.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690

 

It Would Destroy The Democrat Party In The Short Term

DavidSage (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 1:58PM EST (link)

Years out, it would no doubt benefit Democrats, but the next few election cycles, Democrat politicians would be thrown out of office en masse if it passed. It would also instantly destroy Obama’s popularity. Even in good economic times, amnesty is opposed by about 70% of Americans. In bad economic times, that number is undoubtedly higher. It’s also an emotionally charged issue that voters will remember. I still to this day believe that Bush’s popularity tanked and never recovered because of his push for amnesty.

Usually, politicians of any party are more worried about their own skin then they are what will happen to their party a generation in the future. I would think most Democrats that are from Red and Purple states are telling their leadership, “Don’t you dare try to pass amnesty.” They know voters will throw them out of office out of rage towards their party if amnesty passes.

Just bringing the issue up will scare a lot of Americans into the Republican camp, and it if ever came to the floor, my doubt is around half of the currently elected Democrats would vote against it.

We still need to be on guard, but I think it would incredibly stupid for Democrats to pick this fight right now.

I really don't see that at all

kyle8 (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 3:08PM EST (link)

Not at ALL. This is only a tough issue among conservatives, and not even all conservatives think so.

I see NO evidence that the general public is anything but swallowing the koolaid on our wonderful multicultural nation and the need to have as many immigrants as possible.

And if you bring up any doubts at all your a racist.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

Why Did So Many Democrats Vote Against It?

DavidSage (Diary) Monday, May 25th at 6:05PM EST (link)

The last go around, all sorts of Democrats that were up for reelection ended up voting against the bill. Even Obama when he was a Senator voted against it. The polls showed that three-fourths of Americans were against it, and that was when the economy was doing quite well.

I’m not saying it won’t happen, but if it does pass, I guarantee you it will not be popular and Democrats will pay a price at the next election cycle.

Also, although it would be tough, most of the amnesty plans have some sort of time period and benchmarks to meet before people are granted full fledged citizens. My guess is a change in power could allow lawmakers to make that criteria more difficult, “moving the goalposts”, so to speak.