Trust me lib, I know there are Democrat patriots, but they do not lead the party, they do not fund the party, and are not the ones pushing the agenda.

“They care more about the enemy than our own troops!” I’m left by some standards and I can assure you that both I and many of my liberal friends and associates care deeply about our troops … we’re ex-military so we were the troops once. But I take it you used that line rhetorically and I understand your bigger point.

My concern is that to bring them to this country would potentially integrate them into our domestic criminal justice system which may not be equipt to deal with those that wish to destroy the very system that would grant them due process.

Not so much anymore. Let there be no mistake, the liberal run cities like Detroit and New Orleans, and states like California prove that they have no sense left at all.

They will absolutely let the entire train run into the ditch and continue to promote purely political reasons over anything smacking of common sense.

But I take some exception to releasing them in the US. If they are “innocent,” we basically kidnapped them from their native countries and should return them from whence they came.

I understand asylum: from the former South Vietnamese Army Major with whom I spoke on a plane a month ago (many of his friends were tortured and never heard from again; he came to America months after the fall of Saigon) to Russian Jews who bought their way out of the USSR to Israel, then emigrated to the US.

I understand citizenship … like the Phillipino who lived for years alone on South Pacific islands while spotting the Japanese fleets for America, but got drafted from his cane-cutting job in Hawaii for our “police action” in Korea because his WWII service was not recognized.

Perhaps … if the innocents are asked (without mentioning consequences) “do you absolutely and entirely renounce allegiance to any foreign potentate of whom or which you have been a subject or citizen; that you will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that you will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;” and they answer in the affirmative, then they might be granted entry to the US.

If they don’t agree … send them home and let their own countries deal with them.

Note: the above quote is an abbreviation of the US Oath of Citizenship.

Under the Geneva Convention, organized troops who lay down their arms in surrender are given a “pardon” and kept until the end of hostilities. This works well: German troops were treated well in Texas prison camps, American airmen shot down over Germany were kept alive until they were returned.

Of course, Al Qaeda never signed the Convention … they are simply murderers (common criminals) … when they capture Americans, they torture their prisoners with cigarettes, hack off their limbs, cut off their heads, burn their bodies, drag them through the streets, and hang them from bridges.

So … with few exceptions … our soldiers stop shooting at a zealot who lays down his arms because that is what our soldiers are trained to do … and the captive is turned over to a courts system that doesn’t know what to do.

That zealot may have murdered men, women and children … civilians and foreign or American soldiers … but there are no witnesses, there is probably no provable “opportunity, motive, or intent.” Heck … maybe the guy never killed anybody, and the picture he drew of an airplane going into a building doesn’t have his signature.

We are civilized. Let the perps go. Of course, if freedom is restored ten thousand feet over the Atlantic because the perp’s home country won’t take him, or we don’t want to turn him over his own local authorities, so be it: the perps can certainly swim to a friendlier shore.

http://www.bouhammer.com/2009/05/exclusive-cpt-roger-hill-in-his-own-words/

Also look into the treatment of the Marines that were at Haditha as well. “Guilty until proven innocent” seems to be the standard once a JAG officer gets going.

Dems call sleep deprivation, “attention grasp”, and the like torture. Both and more were done to the Haditha Marines as well as being refused visitation with their families.

The brass when it comes to criminal investigations already treats servicemen like or worse than most terror suspects.

The ONE or two things that all the policies that Obama has left in place or -re-affirmed from Washington thru Bush, are war powers and/or executive powers.

more later

“Yeah , man I,.. I was just thinking about knocking over the ‘Bazra 7-11 when all these soldiers came by , man, and grabbed me.,man, I mean, I wasn’t doing nothing with this IED and this AK-47, man….D*mn, wound up in Kansas,man… I ain’t smoking that stuff no more….”
-With apologies to Cheech and Chong

The inmates are definitely running the asylum.

Regards

But of course, it would be a miracle if we didn’t capture innocents by mistake.

The Bush Admin admitted that we had some innocents but that their home countries and no others would take them. We actually have released some known innocents to other countries and some known guiltys we THOUGHT were no further threat, I might add.

The point is that humans make mistakes and we have and remember, I have THREE criteria, with one being that they pose no threat. That is not a low threshold.

see here for more detail

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law–Politics-Examiner~y2009m3d28-America-must-free-the-innocent-at-Gitmo

If they are “innocent” and “pose no threat” then how did they end up in GITMO to begin with? It was my understanding that this is where we house the “worst of the worst”. If they have done no wrong, shouldn’t they have stayed in Afghanistan or Iraq?

I have also said that any detainees that we know are innocent and pose no threat and who we can’t send elsewhere, should eventually be released in the US.