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	<title>Comments on: Obama Betrayed by His Own Words on Market Collapse</title>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod_Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the O plays with the market, tax, etc.


.... never allow him  to play the balls of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Russia, Afghanistan, Venezuela, etc.

Geez.... we&#039;ll never know what will become of us even by just one single mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the O plays with the market, tax, etc.</p>
<p>&#8230;. never allow him  to play the balls of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Russia, Afghanistan, Venezuela, etc.</p>
<p>Geez&#8230;. we&#8217;ll never know what will become of us even by just one single mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on foreign policy!

At least the stock market cratering is only costing us money and increased suffering, not death and physical destruction! This kind of leadership in foreign policy?!?! No, I don&#039;t even want to think about it.

Yes, the Brits were offended, but being British, they&#039;ve been keeping a stiff upper lip about it. And once we&#039;ve got a real American for a President again we can apologize profusely and appropriately and maybe shore things up again. I mean, they got over that whole Revolution thing, surely we can overcome a dinner snub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on foreign policy!</p>
<p>At least the stock market cratering is only costing us money and increased suffering, not death and physical destruction! This kind of leadership in foreign policy?!?! No, I don&#8217;t even want to think about it.</p>
<p>Yes, the Brits were offended, but being British, they&#8217;ve been keeping a stiff upper lip about it. And once we&#8217;ve got a real American for a President again we can apologize profusely and appropriately and maybe shore things up again. I mean, they got over that whole Revolution thing, surely we can overcome a dinner snub.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carter didn&#039;t start with an economy that was cratering even though the media depicted it that way. Carter started with an economy that was having a little bit of inflation. It didn&#039;t really start to crater until half way through Carter&#039;s administration.

Obama on the other hand, is not even half of 100 days into his administration and the economy is already as bad as it was (relatively speaking) in the thrid or fourth year of Carter. Obama, with backing from Pelosi and Reed, has the potential to crater the economy even worse than the Great Depression, because none of them have any idea what reality is. I will grant that it is difficult to make Hoover look economically competent, but it looks like Obama is going to make a serious run at achieving that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carter didn&#8217;t start with an economy that was cratering even though the media depicted it that way. Carter started with an economy that was having a little bit of inflation. It didn&#8217;t really start to crater until half way through Carter&#8217;s administration.</p>
<p>Obama on the other hand, is not even half of 100 days into his administration and the economy is already as bad as it was (relatively speaking) in the thrid or fourth year of Carter. Obama, with backing from Pelosi and Reed, has the potential to crater the economy even worse than the Great Depression, because none of them have any idea what reality is. I will grant that it is difficult to make Hoover look economically competent, but it looks like Obama is going to make a serious run at achieving that.</p>
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		<title>By: anotherindyfilmguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>anotherindyfilmguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he was really paying attention he&#039;s shut up and have his &quot;team&quot; announce they were focusing foreign policy instead... and stop trying to kill the US from within... unfortunately he probably is paying attention and very, very smug with himself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he was really paying attention he&#8217;s shut up and have his &#8220;team&#8221; announce they were focusing foreign policy instead&#8230; and stop trying to kill the US from within&#8230; unfortunately he probably is paying attention and very, very smug with himself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/03/07/obama-betrayed-by-his-own-words-on-market-collapse/#comment-3869</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The college savings for my kids won&#039;t matter because in ten years, they will be in college, out of college and in the work force.

If you&#039;re 16 years old, ten years isn&#039;t that long. Most of us with money in the market aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The college savings for my kids won&#8217;t matter because in ten years, they will be in college, out of college and in the work force.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re 16 years old, ten years isn&#8217;t that long. Most of us with money in the market aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: paulincolo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/03/07/obama-betrayed-by-his-own-words-on-market-collapse/#comment-3868</link>
		<dc:creator>paulincolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with key ______________ (fill in the blank).  I don&#039;t know how many times, I hear this phrase, but it bugs the bejeebus out of me.  he said in the campaign, after election, at inauguration, every presser  AND IT MEANS NOTHING.  In fact, he shouldn&#039;t be communicating with these people, that&#039;s why he has people to do it for him.  Maybe he could then, oh I don&#039;t know, talk to another head of state without embarrassing the whole USA.

(rant over) Thanks for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with key ______________ (fill in the blank).  I don&#8217;t know how many times, I hear this phrase, but it bugs the bejeebus out of me.  he said in the campaign, after election, at inauguration, every presser  AND IT MEANS NOTHING.  In fact, he shouldn&#8217;t be communicating with these people, that&#8217;s why he has people to do it for him.  Maybe he could then, oh I don&#8217;t know, talk to another head of state without embarrassing the whole USA.</p>
<p>(rant over) Thanks for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/03/07/obama-betrayed-by-his-own-words-on-market-collapse/#comment-3866</link>
		<dc:creator>liberalrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 years?

Investing in securities is a long term deal.  

By the way, the low was 577 in 1975. The year before Carter. 

In Jan of 76, the dow was 975. In Jan of 77, the dow was 983. It went up Carters first full year. 

When Reagan took over...

Jan 1980 the dow was 875 and it dipped to 785 by March of Reagan&#039;s first term. 

Jan 81 it was 965. It was 1286 at the start of his second term</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 years?</p>
<p>Investing in securities is a long term deal.  </p>
<p>By the way, the low was 577 in 1975. The year before Carter. </p>
<p>In Jan of 76, the dow was 975. In Jan of 77, the dow was 983. It went up Carters first full year. </p>
<p>When Reagan took over&#8230;</p>
<p>Jan 1980 the dow was 875 and it dipped to 785 by March of Reagan&#8217;s first term. </p>
<p>Jan 81 it was 965. It was 1286 at the start of his second term</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/03/07/obama-betrayed-by-his-own-words-on-market-collapse/#comment-3865</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reagan had enough time and political capital to reverse the policies of Carter. And your comment makes my point:

&quot;What happened 10 years after Carter?&quot;

Ten years? TEN YEARS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reagan had enough time and political capital to reverse the policies of Carter. And your comment makes my point:</p>
<p>&#8220;What happened 10 years after Carter?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ten years? TEN YEARS?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Warren Buffet, who has proven to be smarter than all of them, says our best days are ahead and now is the time to take advantage of the idiots (my word) on Wall St.&quot;

You know what Mr. Turkey Vulture did last year? Spent $3 billion of his investors&#039; money on GE. Part of this deal let him buy GE stock at $25 per share at any time in the next five years. You know what it closed at Friday? Go take a look and tell me how smart he is now.

&quot;From the bottom of my soul, I reject any notion that the USA is damaged goods.&quot;

Again, the economic policies coming out of this brain-dead administration reward sloth and incompetence. Until these policies are reversed, and it may take decades, the U.S. is damaged goods. Period. The world knows this. All we are for the next four years is one bigass sub-prime borrower.

&quot;The mensa’s on Wall St, who got us in this mess...&quot;

No. People who had no business being lent money got us into this mess. Social engineering through the banking system (&quot;Everybody gets one before anybody has two!&quot;) got us into this mess. Freddie and Fannie got us into this mess. Wall Street is IN the mess, but hardly sparked it. If everyone was paying their bills we would not be having this conversation.

Go right ahead and put all your money in the market. I&#039;ll pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Warren Buffet, who has proven to be smarter than all of them, says our best days are ahead and now is the time to take advantage of the idiots (my word) on Wall St.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know what Mr. Turkey Vulture did last year? Spent $3 billion of his investors&#8217; money on GE. Part of this deal let him buy GE stock at $25 per share at any time in the next five years. You know what it closed at Friday? Go take a look and tell me how smart he is now.</p>
<p>&#8220;From the bottom of my soul, I reject any notion that the USA is damaged goods.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, the economic policies coming out of this brain-dead administration reward sloth and incompetence. Until these policies are reversed, and it may take decades, the U.S. is damaged goods. Period. The world knows this. All we are for the next four years is one bigass sub-prime borrower.</p>
<p>&#8220;The mensa’s on Wall St, who got us in this mess&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>No. People who had no business being lent money got us into this mess. Social engineering through the banking system (&#8220;Everybody gets one before anybody has two!&#8221;) got us into this mess. Freddie and Fannie got us into this mess. Wall Street is IN the mess, but hardly sparked it. If everyone was paying their bills we would not be having this conversation.</p>
<p>Go right ahead and put all your money in the market. I&#8217;ll pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know who you were responding to concerning wealth creation by Washington?

You just like to say &quot;no&quot; to be a contrarian on semantics when we actually agree.

feel better?

smile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know who you were responding to concerning wealth creation by Washington?</p>
<p>You just like to say &#8220;no&#8221; to be a contrarian on semantics when we actually agree.</p>
<p>feel better?</p>
<p>smile</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/03/07/obama-betrayed-by-his-own-words-on-market-collapse/#comment-3862</link>
		<dc:creator>liberalrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the American people who actually created the wealth and elected a competent president. 

Washington doesn&#039;t create wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the American people who actually created the wealth and elected a competent president. </p>
<p>Washington doesn&#8217;t create wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: liberalrepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/03/07/obama-betrayed-by-his-own-words-on-market-collapse/#comment-3859</link>
		<dc:creator>liberalrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 75, the market was at 600.

By 95, it was at 6000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 75, the market was at 600.</p>
<p>By 95, it was at 6000</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrepublican</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not denying we are in a recession or that things are serious.

Far from it.

What I don&#039;t agree is that Wall St is an accurate reflection of the future. 

Historically, Wall St ALWAYS over estimates recessions. EVERY TIME. (and ALWAYS over estimates booms). 

The worse the recession, the greater to over reaction. The better the opportunity to buy.

During FDR, people really, honestly believe the best days of America were in the past. A majority. 

On the brink of our finest moment to that point, they thought we were over?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not denying we are in a recession or that things are serious.</p>
<p>Far from it.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t agree is that Wall St is an accurate reflection of the future. </p>
<p>Historically, Wall St ALWAYS over estimates recessions. EVERY TIME. (and ALWAYS over estimates booms). </p>
<p>The worse the recession, the greater to over reaction. The better the opportunity to buy.</p>
<p>During FDR, people really, honestly believe the best days of America were in the past. A majority. </p>
<p>On the brink of our finest moment to that point, they thought we were over?</p>
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		<title>By: realityunwound</title>
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		<dc:creator>realityunwound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t able to tell what exactly you were getting at, but if the extent of it is that King Barry the Hopeful shouldn&#039;t be President because his real name is Barry and not Barack, please let this go. I believe Obama is going to give us all plenty of reason to get rid of him. When we grasp for straws like this, we look small minded.

I&#039;m  sorry for being harsh. I love the fact that you want to see real change, not Obama kind of change, but for the kind of change that I know you want to see, the HOW is just as important as the WHAT. Sorry again if I&#039;ve offended. That&#039;s not my intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to tell what exactly you were getting at, but if the extent of it is that King Barry the Hopeful shouldn&#8217;t be President because his real name is Barry and not Barack, please let this go. I believe Obama is going to give us all plenty of reason to get rid of him. When we grasp for straws like this, we look small minded.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m  sorry for being harsh. I love the fact that you want to see real change, not Obama kind of change, but for the kind of change that I know you want to see, the HOW is just as important as the WHAT. Sorry again if I&#8217;ve offended. That&#8217;s not my intent.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrepublican</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a once in a generation time to buy.

Fortunes will me made by people who bet on America these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a once in a generation time to buy.</p>
<p>Fortunes will me made by people who bet on America these days.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrepublican</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Market Professionals?

Like the ones running AIG and Bear Stearns? Like the ones who willing paid $57 for Citi a little while ago?

If you believe Forest Gump - &quot;Stupid is as Stupid does...&quot; you would have to admit that these &quot;professionals&quot; are among the stupidest finacial minds in the history of mankind.

They have nice suits, fancy diplomas and the prettiest wives modern surgery can make, but they have acted like IDIOTS. 

Seriously, paying attention to them is like looking to France for military strategy during WWII or asking the makers of the titanic for advice on rivets. 

The market is having a tantrum. No other way of saying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Market Professionals?</p>
<p>Like the ones running AIG and Bear Stearns? Like the ones who willing paid $57 for Citi a little while ago?</p>
<p>If you believe Forest Gump &#8211; &#8220;Stupid is as Stupid does&#8230;&#8221; you would have to admit that these &#8220;professionals&#8221; are among the stupidest finacial minds in the history of mankind.</p>
<p>They have nice suits, fancy diplomas and the prettiest wives modern surgery can make, but they have acted like IDIOTS. </p>
<p>Seriously, paying attention to them is like looking to France for military strategy during WWII or asking the makers of the titanic for advice on rivets. </p>
<p>The market is having a tantrum. No other way of saying it.</p>
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		<title>By: zsmvf6</title>
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		<dc:creator>zsmvf6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the donkey he rode in on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the donkey he rode in on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skorrent1</title>
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		<dc:creator>skorrent1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the long term.  But just as Carter gave us a great &quot;buy low&quot; opportunity in &#039;80, so did Hoover in &quot;30.  The question for today is whether the current economy will behave more like it did under Reagan or under Hoover/FDR.  The market saw where the Gipper was headed and led us out of a fairly substantial recession.  The market is looking at Obama&#039;s policies and may be thinking that he is leading us into another Carter &quot;stagflation.&quot;

In the &quot;long run&quot; we may not all be dead, but we may have suffered substantial pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the long term.  But just as Carter gave us a great &#8220;buy low&#8221; opportunity in &#8217;80, so did Hoover in &#8220;30.  The question for today is whether the current economy will behave more like it did under Reagan or under Hoover/FDR.  The market saw where the Gipper was headed and led us out of a fairly substantial recession.  The market is looking at Obama&#8217;s policies and may be thinking that he is leading us into another Carter &#8220;stagflation.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the &#8220;long run&#8221; we may not all be dead, but we may have suffered substantial pain.</p>
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