Comments on: Roll Call: Voinovich Out of ‘Compromise’ Talks

By: Achance

Achance — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:26:54 +0000

as an advocate were those without the authority or confidence to negotiate a resolution. They would take cases to hearing that they should have settled and I’d beat them like a rented mule. My favorites were the union reps that thought they were defense attornies and tried to make their obviously guilty grievant as pure as the driven snow while saying, prove it. Well, my standard ain’t resonable doubt it’s preponderance or at most something like clear and convincing for a dismissal or big suspension. So, arbitrator or ALJ has a choice between the union saying let him off scott free and my sometimes even unreasonably harsh discipline. They ain’t going to let them off scott free.

By: Mike gamecock DeVine

Mike gamecock DeVine — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:04:32 +0000

as a trial lawyer. I had to win cases and get confident enough to walk away from the table, knowing I would beat them in front of a jury and when I really got good was when they knew it and caved.

By: Achance

Achance — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:51:26 +0000

ain’t really in that “hail fellow well met” character. Practically every new elected or appointed official I ever worked for right off the bat told me something along the lines of, “don’t get any grievances.” Well, I know how to do that – give them whatever they want. Even that only works for so long cause you really can’t give them enough to keep them happy.

Occasionally one shows up in a legislature with real negotiations skills. He/she either takes over the place or gets very quickly run off.

By: E Pluribus Unum

E Pluribus Unum — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:46:54 +0000

In the car sales analogy, moderates are people who go into the dealership fully intending to leave in a new car.

Ultimately a deal will be had, and they will most likely have gotten fleeced. They will not, and cannot, leave the table.

By: Martin Knight

Martin Knight — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:43:28 +0000

By: Brian Hibbert

Brian Hibbert — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:10:48 +0000

If you tell them that you think they shouldn’t reduce taxes, it might re-enforce the idea for them on the next bill.

By: Crowe

Crowe — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:54:09 +0000

If the idea is to get them to vote against the bill, would it make more sense to tell a Dem Senator’s staffer that it is a bad bill because all that special interest spending won’t be in the least bit stimulative, or because the tax cuts in it are unacceptable at a time when we need the government to have more resources, not less, to create jobs…?

Which line should I go with when trying to get a Dem to vote the right way? The principled and correct one? Or the ridiculous one that is more likely to speak to their idiotic notions about economic recovery?

By: KeepOhioRed

KeepOhioRed — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:04:12 +0000

Been trying to reach his office because I know what a RINO he can be. Got right through to my other Senators number (Brown-D).

By: TxCon

TxCon — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:39:46 +0000

when he made his announcement?

By: Kowalski

Kowalski — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:32:08 +0000

Time to vote no, and urge your Congresspeeps to vote no. I was holding out until the bitter end, hoping we were going to get some intelligent movement out of the Democrats, but nothing of the kind has happened.

Vote No.