Obama’s “I Won” seems likely to be a defining moment — at least in the early part of his presidency. Elected as a bipartisan — or post-partisan, or whatever — he and his supporters seem to think Republicans should be happy that they even pretended to care what we think. Now that they made a show of listening to us, we should dutifully back their craptastic bill and big government agenda (because he won, you see). But that’s not what they did when the roles were reversed. There’s no reason for Republicans to do it now. And sticking to our guns is far more likely to help us politically than to hurt us.
This all started out innocently enough. The President invited Republicans to offer ideas about potential economic stimuli. They took him up on the offer. And according to the Politico at least, everything was fine at the start:
At the meeting, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the No. 2 House Republican, passed out copies of the Republicans’ five-point stimulus plan. At first blush, Obama said, “Nothing on here looks outlandish or crazy to me,” Obama said, according to a source familiar with the conversation. He seemed particularly receptive to some Republican ideas about increasing benefits to small businesses.
It was only later that Obama decided he’d heard enough from the other side, and deployed the argument-ending “I won” line:
The exchange arose as top House and Senate Republicans expressed concern to the president about the amount of spending in the package. They also raised red flags about a refundable tax credit that returns money to those who don’t pay income taxes, the sources said.
The Wall Street Journal report is similar, but provides a little more detail:
The statement was prompted by Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona , who challenged the president and the Democratic leaders over the balance between the package’s spending and tax cuts, bringing up the traditional Republican notion that a tax credit for people who do not earn enough to pay income taxes is not a tax cut but a government check.
Obama noted that such workers pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, property taxes and sales taxes. The issue was widely debated during the presidential campaign, when Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, challenged Obama’s tax plan as “welfare.”
With those two words — “I won” — the Democratic president let the Republicans know that debate has been put to rest Nov. 4 .
The point is, the President and his Congressional leadership are entitled to do whatever they want — as long as it meets constitutional muster and gets a majority in both House and Senate. They don’t have to ask for our ideas. They can listen as long as they want, or not at all. But it seems that liberals view this as some kind of favor to the GOP, a chance to talk to Obama before voting for the Democratic bill. That’s ridiculous, and we’d be fools to see it as anything else.
Just think back a few years: George Bush won re-election by a decisive margin in 2004. He had campaigned on continuing to fight the war on terror, reforming Social Security by creating private accounts, expanding trade agreements, and other initiatives. But Congressional Democrats didn’t roll over and vote for the Bush agenda simply because he won. When they disagreed on principle they voted against it. And far more often they opposed him simply because they wanted to destroy his administration.
So why are liberals surprised that Republicans aren’t excited about voting for a plan that has none of their priorities? Over on the Left, they seem to think Obama is doing the GOP a favor. Obama was nice enough to meet with Republicans and listen to them, the thinking goes, so Republicans in Congress now have the fig leaf they need to vote for whatever Obama lays before them. It’s hard to tell whether they think that’s good policy, or whether it’s supposed to be good politics for Republicans. It’s neither, which is why Republicans should vote against any bill that doesn’t reflect their priorities.
This ‘stimulus’ bill is a misbegotten mess of pork barrel projects and waste. With each passing day we find more to hate, and the Democrats are still hiding almost all the details. It will do nothing to help the economy and it might do quite a bit of damage. Politically, American voters will not punish Republicans for voting against it, even if the economy somehow improves despite it. The more they learn about it, the more they oppose it. They will no more turn out Republicans in 2010 because they opposed it, than they turned them out in 1994 for opposing Bill Clinton’s stimulus plan and tax increases. They are likely to recognize that if anything good happens with the economy in the next two years, it’s likely to be due to the normal business cycle, rather than anything in this mess.
So for the Left, the message is don’t do us any favors. You think Obama has ‘disarmed’ us by demonstrating that he knows he’s in a position of strength. That’s fine; we’re disarmed. You think he needs to remember that the American public is with him? Cool. Knock yourself out. You have plenty of votes to muscle this through the House and Senate without a single Republican. Feel free to do so. We’ll risk the backlash.
That’s because we recognize that Obama is not negotiating with us because he wants to do us a favor. He’s doing it because he wants us all on the same hook together.
The likelihood is that this ‘stimulus’ plan will not work and that the people will recognize it. And once Obama has gotten his stimulus, has nationalized banks and car companies, has ‘fixed’ health care, and has increased the debt by $3 or $4 trillion, the voters will be ready for change again in 2010. And as long as Obama and the Democrats dictate terms and expect us to like it, we’ll be happy to bite the hand that feeds.
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Praying (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 9:59PM EST (link)into the letter I’m writing to my senators and representative? You make ALL the valid points that these yahoos need to hear – especially my own Lamar Alexander, who is not the most trustworthy of the GOP senators. I took issue with his being one of six GOP senators who voted to release the second half of the TARP funds, not that we’ll ever know what happened to the first $350 billion… I think all the Red State audience is convinced – but now, to get this message out to the American people and most importantly, to our elected officials in Washington. You are absolutely correct in stating that the dems can pass this pork barrel spending bill without a single GOP vote, but there should not be a single GOP vote (did you hear that, John McCain? Lindsey Graham?) – it’s a matter of principle!
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
What if Bush would have said this?
robmikpet (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 10:06PM EST (link)I have posted this comment many times but we are in a war. The Dems and the left treat it like a war, meaning the winner makes the rules.
How many signs do the Republicans need to finally grow a backbone and fight back as if your political life depended on it. The left wants total control with no opposition, period. no compromise. GROW SOME BALLS REPUBLICANS!!!
What ever happened to the interview when Obama said he is open to any and all ideas…….Only days in office and the amount of BS being spewed is incredible.
Oh and the “I won” comment how pathetically puerile is that comment.
And here is the first Obama misspeak of the Obama era.. during the signing of the Executive Orders he talked about the “secretary violence” in Iraq as opposed to “sectarian” think the MSM will report this, ya right.
Bush said almost the same thing...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 10:54PM EST (link)The Daily showed it last week.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
Yeah, well....
The_Rebel (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 11:09PM EST (link)Bush also had Teddy Kennedy over to watch a movie the first week in the White House in 2001. We all know where that got him. So, congressional Republicans, tell Obama to take a hike. We aren’t playing.
The daily Show? The comedy show?
robmikpet (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 11:10PM EST (link)Did they show the whole context of the quote or something to make it look relevant, it is a comedy show totally in the tank for Obama. Keep that in mind.
I believe Bush signed the Kennedy crafted education bill and McCain Feingold I am waiting for the Inhofe/(insert centrist Dem senator here if you can) bill
Reading your quote at the bottom of your posts does that mean you are a liberal in the European sense? As in FA Hayek, Mises, etc? That’s called conservative in the US.
If the Democrats want Armageddeon, let's give it to them!
Xasteius (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 2:15AM EST (link)No quarter. That’s my call. We may not be able to block a vote, but let’s raise a stink about it. Take our case to the people, just like the House revolt on high energy prices. And show some backbone, GOP!
Methinks many members of the GOP will join the ranks of the unemployed in 2010.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
EXACTLY... NO QUARTER! nt
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 2:27AM EST (link)Maybe I'm a bit off here, but........
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 10:12PM EST (link)Brian….. “The point is, the President and his Congressional leadership are entitled to do whatever they want — as long as it meets constitutional muster and gets a majority in both House and Senate.”
Agreed… but one thing keeps nagging at the bottom of my feet……. I think most of the top folks surrounding and including PBHO don’t actually care about The Constitution and The Bill Of Rights as the documents pertain to how they perceive our country is “needing” to be.
When, not if, but when they get their own SCOTUS justice or two in place, we’ll see if I’m right. God forbid I am.
Cheers !
I share your fear Kenny.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 4:00AM EST (link)“I think most of the top folks surrounding and including PBHO don’t actually care about The Constitution and The Bill Of Rights as the documents pertain to how they perceive our country is “needing” to be.”
….This is exactly the same fear that keeps troubling my mind.
I have this fear that the new Administration has some “covert” plans of changing the Constitution just to provide a legal basis for their stupid policies and forever destroy the Conservative America.
The stupidity of elected Republicans
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 10:22PM EST (link)When will they realize that any meeting with Obama is simply checking the box calling for bipartisanship – at least what passes for bipartisanship in America today. “Hey – we talked with them…what else do they want?”
Idiots. They should oppose the bill, state plainly the principles behind the opposition, vote “present” as a slap in the face to Obama, and let the chips fall where they may. If the stimulus plan works, nothing that I believe in from an economic perspective is correct.
Let's See What They Do Before We Call Them "Idiots"
IJB Friday, January 23rd at 10:45PM EST (link)There seems to be a lot of presumption on this board that most Republicans will just roll over, fold, and vote for the Dems’ stimulus bill.
There is very little that I have seen, especially lately, to indicate that that will be the case.
The few Republicans who might have been tempted to vote for something like this, generally the ones from New England, New York and Illinois, have essentially been wiped out in the last two elections. Mercifully. (And I, unlike many here, won’t miss them, and think we’re better off without them.)
So, before we jump all over the GOP and condemn them, why don’t we give elected Republicans a chance to actually do the right thing first. You might be surprised to see that they come to the same conclusions we do – that there is no upside for them to vote “Yes.”
Hmmm...let's see what they do, huh?
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 11:01PM EST (link)That’s just the problem. We have already seen what they have done.
What they should have done is gotten up and walked out after the Hologram of the United States made his little smartass comment.
Not only do I not think they have the brains to do what is right, they ave checked their self-respect at the door as well.
We’ll see.
If the Dems don't have republicans on board on the "stimulus" bill
phred (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 11:03PM EST (link)they will own any and everything that happens in this country over the next 2/4 years. IMO this borrowed infusion is nothing but big government fertilizer. The Dems deserve to smell like it and an obvious Republican opposition will at the very least, make Republicans smell better by comparison in 2/4 years. An unbridled and unsupported Dem “management” will demonstrate the negative objectives of the libs more than anything that our side could ever say.
Next cycle is Republican pwnage.
Liberalism: Equally shared misery.
Are you sure Obama didn't say, "I One"? nt
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 10:38PM EST (link)The Best Part Washington Monthly Link...
IJB Friday, January 23rd at 10:48PM EST (link)…Is getting another look inside the Leftie ‘echo chamber’.
Those guys are seriously out to sea. There is no question that they’ll go down with O’s ship.
But, the really best part is, they don’t even realize that the ship is already sinking. (I get the impression that the Lefties I come in to contact with are already worried, and begging that we “just give [Obama] a chance.”)
This will be *good* to watch.
"welfare" vs. "I won"
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 10:56PM EST (link)Before I get to my criticism of Cantor and my fellow repubs et al, let me try to preempt uninformed attacks with references to my body of work.
I wrote 6 columns in Sept-Oct opposing the Paulson bank bailout. I have recently wrote a column opposing the Pelosi pork as stimulus bill and advocating a FICA tax holiday and a supply side tax and reg cut stimulus.
But I also wrote this saying it is wrong to characterize tax credits for WORKING people as “welfare”.
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/09/gop-wrong-to-label-tax-cuts-as-welfare/
That does not excuse the boy president’s “I won” childish meeting ender, but Cantor and the GOP screwed up. I don’t pretend to know if Obama was or is open to supply side tax cuts, but this was major strategic mistake by the GOP to call these puny $500-1000 checks to working people “welfare.” Please read the above link before attacking me.
Nothing is more important than reviving this economy and I have deemed it vital to get supply side in this bill and think it is possible to divide Obama from Pelosi.
more later
But I will say this. If Obama rejects any supply side in the bill, this is war and we must oppose the bill.
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Good distinction!
Praying (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 11:19PM EST (link)n/t
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
thanks man-nt
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IF there were significant "supply side"
Adjoran (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 2:47AM EST (link)in the bill to act as an actual economic stimulus, I would probably acquiesce to the throwing around of a bit of cash to get it.
There is not.
It is simply not correct to consider the explosion of the EITC as a “tax cut” for “working people.” Yes, people have to have enough income to file a tax return to claim it, but that qualifies a heckuva lotta folks who aren’t “working” most of the time. And virtually none of those who qualify for it actually pay any federal income taxes; the overwhelming majority of recipients pay none.
You cannot give someone who pays NO taxes a “tax cut.” It’s a subsidy. Including this giveaway in the “tax cut” total is deceitful.
I will grant the term “welfare” is unnecessarily pejorative, and inaccurate. Welfare recipients must at least qualify under criteria of need and are subject to review. EITC is more of an unrestricted grant. It’s much worse than spending money on “welfare” for those who specifically qualify – the latter addresses a social need, however inefficiently, while the former merely sends out checks.
Neither is taking money from the productive through taxation (or from credit markets by borrowing) to give the less productive a gift in any way “stimulative” to the economy. The economy prospers when resources are used most efficiently, and no one is better qualified to judge a dollar’s most efficient use than the fellow who earned it.
There is not , yet. Yet. As of now, there is only a House bill
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 2:53AM EST (link)A House bill that stripped out Obama tax cuts. A bill that exerted Pelosi power over Obama.
Now, the Senate.
I fear that we blew it in the meeting with Obama with the “welfare” characterization that insulted the Boy King, but I readily admit that our efforts may have been doomed from the start.
But my point is that we must try until the end to get REAL stimulus in the FINAL bill for the sake of America.
If the final bill does not contain any real stimulus, then we must oppose.
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Bipartisan is a way to spread blame when it turns south
woodsman (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 11:03PM EST (link)A decent self-respecting R or conservative should fight something they don’t agree with, but then make sure their constituents know why and make the liberals known. I used both R and conservative in the above since it is appearing there are actually two parties within the same group and the R’s are not looking like anything like a conservative (for some time now, one just ran for President!)
Let the liberals crash and burn on their own. Any time you try to work with them that just means you expose yourself to blame they rightly deserve but will scapegoat someone else with.
My response is: You broke it, you own it.
Someone (or a group of someones) is smoking some really good stuff now and it looks like it’s not going to get any better over the next few years.
Brian, it is far beyond "I Won".
conservativemusician Friday, January 23rd at 11:27PM EST (link)It is that we conservatives have opinions at all. We lost, so we’re irrelevant. To me, this is what Obama really meant with this purposely demeaning comment. We are supposed to genuflect in Obama’s presence and be thankful for the crumbs dropped on the floor (i.e. being invited to this “bi-partisan” meeting). It is truly both sickening and frightening at the same time.
Obama is profoundly arrogant…far more than any Dem politician I’ve seen in my lifetime. There is no other point of view but Obama’s and the Dems, so I find it very curious that the Dems keep saying they want things to be bi-partisan. They certainly never were when Bush was in office.
They have wide majorities in both houses and a “mandate” given to them by the “52″ (even though they said Bush had no mandate at 51%), so it should be smooth sailing on all the socialist agenda…right? Why hasn’t all of this already passed? I thought all of this was supposed to be done before Obama took the “oaf” of office. Maybe some cracks are starting to form now…
Gridlock is now the new measuring stick of progress and I believe we have nothing to lose from opposing everything, so I encourage the GOP leaders to grow a collective pair and get on with being the true opposition party for once. I am encouraged by what McConnell said today in opposition to major parts of the “stimulus” (or as Rush said, “porkulus”) and I am hopeful that he will continue keeping up the pressure in the days to come.
I couldn't be a GOP Senator in that room
Erick Brockway (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 12:20AM EST (link)I doubt any of us could.
No way I could sit there after that.
What is the protocol for politely dismissing oneself from the President and walking away shaking one’s head?
Is there an eyeroll protocol?
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izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 12:27AM EST (link)is start coughing in unison with a disguised *ull*hit!!!
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Respect for the office is far different than respect for a supposed man who doesn't show any.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 12:57AM EST (link)The office, I respect and so does every American I know. What’s in it now, no way. Not now and I highly doubt I ever will.
One day soon, this mini-me despot in training who’s demanding respect he hasn’t earned is going to get his head handed to him verbally by a fifth-grader who’s actually obtaining an education and instinctively understanding what it is to be a free American.
Mr. President, I respectfully ask that you take your male PMS attitude and lose it rather quickly. Quite honestly, you’re coming across as still being in kindergarten.
Problem is, you and your highly-dangerous-to-liberty-and-freedom people are holding the keys to a kingdom that will crumble around you first unless you wise up and remember that the very freedoms you threaten to dissolve are what got you to this point.
Mr. President, it is becoming quite apparent that this is the first time in your life you have real responsibility and about two-tents of one micron of that reality is starting to hit you right between the eyes. I pray that you don’t fall on your face, because all of our lives depend on what little ability you have to see beyond some bizarre vision of a Utopian existence.
Cheers !
55555 - nt
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For me the only protocol is.....
rcov092 (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 9:20AM EST (link)do not barf on the carpet. That belongs to the people and not to the One, otherwise disrespect shown, disrespect returned would seem to be acceptable.
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speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 2:45AM EST (link)Bank on it……
please expand on this - nt
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I will be paying attention to the...
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 3:35AM EST (link)Repubs that vote for this so-called Stimulus….it’s Total BS
I will remember….I will not forgive…
amen with a caveat - We have not seen the final bill
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 3:41AM EST (link)and if by some miracle, we could get “enough” actual supply side tax cuts in it, I could support “it”
we don’t know what “it” is yet
and’llist
I never give up until the buzzer sounds
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I am sitting in my pumpkin patch...waiting
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 3:43AM EST (link)lol
Jeff does not believe in the Great GOP fairy...
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 3:50AM EST (link)http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Jeff_Emanuel_6D0BEB15-224E-4C28-BC7D-7BE1249F89B4.html
We desperately need a real stimulus bill, and given that
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 3:57AM EST (link)“public” works must, by definition be funded by the govt, I am all for accelerated public works as part of the stimulus, but I agree with Jeff re the pork that won’t be cooked for 3-5 years.
As to the New Deal, I don’t think the analogy fits exactly. Times were MUCH worse then, and the lifting of morale was crucial.
But I am working on a column on that…
As of NOW, I am against the House bill
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'llist, are you aware of the last second USC win
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 3:57AM EST (link)over the gators this week?
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what Linus should do: Interview striking investors
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 3:52AM EST (link)that went on strike when the dems took control of Congress in 2006 and interview unemployed workers that are qualified to take jobs the striking investors would create but for the lib dem policies.
The GOP NEVER does this. The dems do it 24/7. Clinton won the govt shutdown battle this way.
It may be that Obama would have agreed even if we didn’t expel the “w” welfare diatribe, but given his tax cuts that Pelosi cut out, I think we had and may still have a slight opening.
But given the desperate need for a recovery, we must TRY to get some real stimulus. People’s lives are at stake.
People flipantly say that “we” survived the Carter years.
Poppycock!
many people’s lived were ruined forever due to Carter.
I know many.
And so, we must try. We must think. We must be savy.
more later
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We already have....
rcov092 (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 9:23AM EST (link)hints of wasteful spending in the coming bill. The only reason they are not ready to roll it out yet is that they are looking at how they can hide all the “payments” for votes they are going to pack in it. If they want to “stimulate” the economy, they could begin to get the money into it tomorrow, cut the payroll tax in half for the next 2 years.
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'llist, this is my main point and what illustrates what distinguishes me from so many here in the peanut gallery
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 4:04AM EST (link)I am a fighter. I have won so many fights at the last minute and if I had taken the attitude of most of the conservative bloggers that seem more interested in being right about predicting doom, I would not have achieved all that I have.
And right now, I see so many people suffering and I am certain things are going to get worse, and so, I want desperately to try and make things better as soon as possible, no matter who gets the credit.
That means that investors must get incentives, and I am convinced that a smart strategy can get them. Its a longshot, I know.
But I have won lots of longshots, and I loathe scoffers and defeatists.
They make me sick.
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Agreed....no doom and gloom here..
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 4:17AM EST (link)I am craving strong leadership…..
Cons of all factions just want someone to follow…we have lost faith in our leaders…
I know people are hurting….tenants are coming late with rent….but nothing I’ve heard so far will help that……I have zero confidence
California is Sucking….
I am down to fighting for Principle…..I’ll see you tomorrow..zzzzzzzz
God bless - nt
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Re Redhot: I agree with Geraghty but would phrase it this way
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, January 24th at 4:36AM EST (link)The least worst choice was Obama
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