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		<title>By: LoveThatConstitution</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>LoveThatConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...its all about hope and change. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;its all about hope and change. <img src='http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LoveThatConstitution</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2584</link>
		<dc:creator>LoveThatConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big three are having their biggest expansion outside the US. 

Not outside the scope of imagination that they may someday be a foreign automaker, leaving the UAW sitting in Detroit with no employer:

http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big three are having their biggest expansion outside the US. </p>
<p>Not outside the scope of imagination that they may someday be a foreign automaker, leaving the UAW sitting in Detroit with no employer:</p>
<p>http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189</p>
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		<title>By: roscopico</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2583</link>
		<dc:creator>roscopico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was only intended as a placeholder until the socialists gain the power to fully nationalize the Detroit Jobs Program.

I suppose further gifts will then count toward both &quot;jobs saved&quot; and increased GNP (as gummint spending figures in the cals&#039;s)

Dear Lord, why didn&#039;t I join the union?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was only intended as a placeholder until the socialists gain the power to fully nationalize the Detroit Jobs Program.</p>
<p>I suppose further gifts will then count toward both &#8220;jobs saved&#8221; and increased GNP (as gummint spending figures in the cals&#8217;s)</p>
<p>Dear Lord, why didn&#8217;t I join the union?</p>
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		<title>By: roxer</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2582</link>
		<dc:creator>roxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;“We have no documents, no contact with the federal government,” he said.&#039;

That&#039;s because the money goes to the CAR company you WORK for, not the union that makes nothing without an EMPLOYER...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;“We have no documents, no contact with the federal government,” he said.&#8217;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the money goes to the CAR company you WORK for, not the union that makes nothing without an EMPLOYER&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2579</link>
		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well how could you go wrong with genius moves like this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also Monday, GM selected a Korean company to provide lithium-ion batteries for its Chevrolet Volt electric car and said it will set up a plant in Michigan to eventually package the batteries into the large assemblies needed to power the vehicle.

GM said the plant will be located in Michigan, giving a boost to its beleaguered home state. It chose LG Chem Ltd. to supply the batteries, passing over an American company that was in the running, A123 Systems Inc., of Watertown, Mass. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So GM thinks it&#039;s a good idea to build a new plant -- in Michigan of all places... filled with UAW employees, no doubt -- to build battery packs for its $40k subcompact car, which is certain to be a huge hit. Will they even make any money on them at $40k a pop? Or is this another one of those things they have to sell at a loss (like the EV-1) to show how green they are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well how could you go wrong with genius moves like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Also Monday, GM selected a Korean company to provide lithium-ion batteries for its Chevrolet Volt electric car and said it will set up a plant in Michigan to eventually package the batteries into the large assemblies needed to power the vehicle.</p>
<p>GM said the plant will be located in Michigan, giving a boost to its beleaguered home state. It chose LG Chem Ltd. to supply the batteries, passing over an American company that was in the running, A123 Systems Inc., of Watertown, Mass. </p></blockquote>
<p>So GM thinks it&#8217;s a good idea to build a new plant &#8212; in Michigan of all places&#8230; filled with UAW employees, no doubt &#8212; to build battery packs for its $40k subcompact car, which is certain to be a huge hit. Will they even make any money on them at $40k a pop? Or is this another one of those things they have to sell at a loss (like the EV-1) to show how green they are?</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2578</link>
		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ref: &lt;a href=&quot;http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/12/17/postponing_reality?page=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Townhall column&lt;/a&gt; last December
&lt;blockquote&gt;Detroit and Michigan have followed classic liberal policies of treating businesses as prey, rather than as assets. They have helped kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. So have the unions. So have managements that have gone along to get along.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The UAW continues to treat the Big Three as prey, with the Dems continually supplying the ammunition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref: <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/12/17/postponing_reality?page=2" rel="nofollow">Townhall column</a> last December</p>
<blockquote><p>Detroit and Michigan have followed classic liberal policies of treating businesses as prey, rather than as assets. They have helped kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. So have the unions. So have managements that have gone along to get along.</p></blockquote>
<p>The UAW continues to treat the Big Three as prey, with the Dems continually supplying the ammunition.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just start talking about fair trade and the sweatshop working conditions in those places.  I&#039;ll guarantee you, I know the cant well enough from hearing it for all those years that I could give a union organizing speach that would have a tear in your eye and your pen poised over an authorization card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just start talking about fair trade and the sweatshop working conditions in those places.  I&#8217;ll guarantee you, I know the cant well enough from hearing it for all those years that I could give a union organizing speach that would have a tear in your eye and your pen poised over an authorization card.</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing saved by the bailout was the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing saved by the bailout was the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: General_Confusion</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2575</link>
		<dc:creator>General_Confusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seems quite clear to me that they pretty much have a never ending series of blank checks, er I mean economic stimulus infrastructure payments coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seems quite clear to me that they pretty much have a never ending series of blank checks, er I mean economic stimulus infrastructure payments coming.</p>
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		<title>By: tankertodd</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/01/14/uaw-on-concessions-lets-not-get-hasty/#comment-2574</link>
		<dc:creator>tankertodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to Gettelfinger comment on UAW contract negotiations is like listening to the tapeworm discuss its plan on how much sustenance to rob from its host.  You don&#039;t want to kill your host but then again you don&#039;t want to pass up an opportunity to get fat at someone else&#039;s expense.  The host exists for your benefit.  The UAW is nothing more than a parasite upon the firm.  A punishment for a bad choice that never, ever leaves you.

The UAW is bad for America and it needs to be gone.  That is on my top ten list of executive actions should I ever be elected generalissimo of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to Gettelfinger comment on UAW contract negotiations is like listening to the tapeworm discuss its plan on how much sustenance to rob from its host.  You don&#8217;t want to kill your host but then again you don&#8217;t want to pass up an opportunity to get fat at someone else&#8217;s expense.  The host exists for your benefit.  The UAW is nothing more than a parasite upon the firm.  A punishment for a bad choice that never, ever leaves you.</p>
<p>The UAW is bad for America and it needs to be gone.  That is on my top ten list of executive actions should I ever be elected generalissimo of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: 10ksnooker</title>
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		<dc:creator>10ksnooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A company known for retirement and healthcare should have a car assembly plant or two so they don&#039;t look like they are just a company of retirement and healthcare.

Was there anyone who didn&#039;t know that if the demands of the host company were too high, the host company dies? Unions have lost their usefulness in a modern society.

Bankruptcy. It&#039;s the only solution for businesses that are no longer going concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A company known for retirement and healthcare should have a car assembly plant or two so they don&#8217;t look like they are just a company of retirement and healthcare.</p>
<p>Was there anyone who didn&#8217;t know that if the demands of the host company were too high, the host company dies? Unions have lost their usefulness in a modern society.</p>
<p>Bankruptcy. It&#8217;s the only solution for businesses that are no longer going concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic union solution to a union problem... &quot;We cost too much, how can we fix it... I know, make our competitors charge more!&quot;
Unionize the transplants and watch their plants - and their jobs - move to other countries. Wonderful, we will have Hondas built in Mexico instead of Ohio. They will take the tooling and leave in a heartbeat, as they have very little tied up in the facilities - the taxpayers footed the bills for most of these places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic union solution to a union problem&#8230; &#8220;We cost too much, how can we fix it&#8230; I know, make our competitors charge more!&#8221;<br />
Unionize the transplants and watch their plants &#8211; and their jobs &#8211; move to other countries. Wonderful, we will have Hondas built in Mexico instead of Ohio. They will take the tooling and leave in a heartbeat, as they have very little tied up in the facilities &#8211; the taxpayers footed the bills for most of these places.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to take care of the Big 3&#039;s competitive disadvantage.  Put the Southern plants under the UAW master and let them pay the benefits for the guy that built Edsels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to take care of the Big 3&#8242;s competitive disadvantage.  Put the Southern plants under the UAW master and let them pay the benefits for the guy that built Edsels.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would not even change their minds. 
I guess they don&#039;t understand the law
of supply &amp; demand.
Car sales will be way off in 2009.
I don&#039;t think GM will increase it&#039;s
marketshare with the world&#039;s
economy going down the toilet.
Even if the UAW worked for FREE
it would be too little too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would not even change their minds.<br />
I guess they don&#8217;t understand the law<br />
of supply &amp; demand.<br />
Car sales will be way off in 2009.<br />
I don&#8217;t think GM will increase it&#8217;s<br />
marketshare with the world&#8217;s<br />
economy going down the toilet.<br />
Even if the UAW worked for FREE<br />
it would be too little too late.</p>
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