Nutroots Still Have no Principle


Or, How Much Garbage Will Joe Lieberman Take

This is pathetic beyond words:

When will Democratic leaders realize that every time Joe Lieberman spouts right-wing talking points on TV as a “Democrat” or attends a Republican press conference as a “Democrat,” that spites their face big-time?

So here’s the plan. Immediately after Election Day, if Democrats don’t need Lieberman as their 60th vote in the Senate, progressive activists in Nevada will stand in front of Harry Reid’s office for hours and read your letters to Harry Reid about Joe Lieberman.

Media will be invited. It will be a grand spectacle, and Harry Reid will get the hint that in the progressive era, he needs to be bold. And the first step is to boot Joe Lieberman. Write your letter to Reid here or below…

That’s right: the netroots will gratefully welcome back into the fold their public enemy number one, as long as he votes with them on filibusters. Lieberman has been labeled a traitor by the netroots. They ran a primary against him. They portrayed him as an Uncle Tom and mocked him for kissing President Bush. There’s no Republican that earns the vitriol of the Left the way Lieberman does. But if they need him to sustain a filibuster, then we’ll let him stay in the club (no consideration is given of course, to the question of whether Lieberman wants to remain).

And now the best part: this suggestion comes from a website called ‘Bold Progressives.’

I think they may need to change the name.


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Remember Joel Hefley? Peter Fitzgerald?

birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 1:44PM EST (link)

It’s not that they have no principle, it’s that when you’re on top of the world, it’s okay to get rid of people who are insufficiently loyal.

That’s what the top of the world is for.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire

 

Betcha' the nutz won't read this to Reid!

Hammer2008 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:07PM EST (link)

I decided to play along and write my own letter for them to read to Reid:

Senator Reid,

You don’t deserve Joe Lieberman nor do any of your democrat allies. He is in the vein of JFK and the late Patrick Moynihan.

Tell president-elect McCain and VP-elect Palin that they deserve Senator Lieberman soooo much that he should be part of their cabinet as Secretary of State.

Consent on his nomination ASAP, he will outshine Colin Powell in his new role immensely!

p.s. always bet on “red”

Expecting to be *flooded *in my email box any hour now.

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Too much noise! “Noise! You’ll have noise enough before long. The Regulars are coming out.” ~ Paul Revere (April 18th, 1775′s eve…)

Yes, birdmojo...

Brian Faughnan (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:12PM EST (link)

I agree that when you’re at the top of the world you should enjoy it. But if you really hate Lieberman enough to kick him out of the conference, you should probably be equally prepared to do it at 59 votes as at 60 votes.

 
 

They're not all Ivy League elitists...

Robert (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:13PM EST (link)

…unless “spites their face” is now being taught in New Haven. “Spits in their face” perhaps? Or “he does it out of spite”?

 

Wrote to nutzrootz to read to Reid

Hammer2008 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:15PM EST (link)

You don’t deserve Joe Lieberman nor do any of your democrat allies. He is in the vein of JFK and the late Patrick Moynihan.

Tell president-elect McCain and VP-elect Palin that they deserve Senator Lieberman soooo much that he should be part of their cabinet as Secretary of State.

Consent on his nomination ASAP, he will outshine Colin Powell in his new role immensely!

p.s. always bet on “red”

I thought I’d play along with their shennanigans and posted the above. Betting I’ll get flooded with emails now.

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Too much noise! “Noise! You’ll have noise enough before long. The Regulars are coming out.” ~ Paul Revere (April 18th, 1775′s eve…)

 

Do it .. and then we'll have a majority for the next two months

Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:56PM EST (link)

Call everybody back and pass all of Bush’s judges.

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Formerly know as “Oz” in these parts

I think it's a reference...

mikefisk (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:56PM EST (link)

…to the saying “cut off your own nose to spite your face”.

If so, isn’t that vaguely anti-Semetic to use that in reference to Lieberman?

If they can divine hidden meanings out of what we say, then they better be prepared to deal with the more obvious ones.

“Once within the maw of Leviathan, degree of digestion is irrelevant.” – Michael Fisk

9.25, -4.77

 
 

I hope to see Lieberman change parties himself...I believe he will to ensure no super majority!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 3:07PM EST (link)

Maybe the Republican who replaces Lieberman...

birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 3:07PM EST (link)

Will be a strong contender for the Presidency someday!

Instead of seeing this as outrageous that the Democrats are treating a principled critic poorly, may I suggest you see it as an opportunity to run a guy who might beat him? A guy who, eventually, might even be at the top of a presidential ticket?

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire

 
 

LEAKED OBAMA COMMENTS IN L.A. TIMES TAPE

ratpacklaw Thursday, October 30th at 3:11PM EST (link)

‘Trust, But Verify’ has the 2 leaked quotes on their site. The issue is not Khalidi, rather the issue is what Obama said at Khalidi’s going away bash – very anti-Israel comments.

www.trustbutverify.wordpress.com

LEAKED OBAMA COMMENTS IN L.A. TIMES TAPE

ratpacklaw Thursday, October 30th at 3:14PM EST (link)

‘Trust, But Verify’ has the 2 leaked quotes on their site. The issue is not Khalidi, rather the issue is what Obama said at Khalidi’s going away bash – very anti-Israel comments.

www.trustbutverify.wordpress.com

*That's* going to require the actual recording...

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 3:19PM EST (link)

…before we can run with it, alas.

 
 
 

There are plenty of liberal Republicans...

Ashok Thursday, October 30th at 3:25PM EST (link)

…and yet I don’t remember them being vilified to the degree Lieberman is by the Left.

Am I wrong about this? While there were conservative challenges to Arlen Specter, I don’t think anyone just outright hated the man.

Again, could be wrong.

Define "vilified".

birdmojo (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 5:15PM EST (link)

Do you mean “called names”?

Do you mean “taken off of committees”?

Do you mean “told that they would not be supported in their bids for re-election and so they bring in some guy who didn’t think that the old bouncy-bouncy with Jeri Ryan was exciting enough as it was and then they had to replace him with Alan Keyes who then lost to the guy who looks like he’ll win the Presidential Election”?

Because if you mean the last two, yeah. The Republicans have vilified their own.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire

Another possibility

ojintoad Thursday, October 30th at 5:54PM EST (link)

I think the netroots just don’t have enough sway over the Democrats if the count is at 60, so it wouldn’t be worth their time. If they were in power they might be willing to give up the filibuster majority. Pelosi, Reid, and the major players in the Democratic Party wouldn’t. Consequently it wouldn’t be worth their time to bother trying to kick out Lieberman in that case, because all the Majority leaders would turn them a deaf ear.

 
 
 

Meanwhile.....

cookcountyconservative (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 6:06PM EST (link)

Iranian source: “Quake” Saturday was nuclear bomb test

Something tells Harry might be happy to have Joe around after the election.

Perhaps...

Brian Faughnan (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 7:22PM EST (link)

You ought to go back and re-read my answer — or figure out who you were trying to respond to. I said I the Democrats were perfectly within their right to do what they’re doing. What they lack is the courage of their convictions.

certainly need Lieberman and some other 'principled' Democrat(s) to Approve Bush Judges

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 7:55PM EST (link)

They have stalled long enough. They know the pathetically SOCIALIST ACTIVIST Judges Obama will push and they will be pressured to sail them through with no vetting what-so-ever so they should step up and to the right thing. Not that they will.

It is the Presidents Right to appoint. Now is the time for PELOSI to step up to her (BS) Rhetoric about BI-Partisanship and pressure the Senate to do its Duty! More likely Global Warming will give us 100 degree temperatures in the US all winter than that happening, both Myths.

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

not to be picky

mbauer (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 8:33PM EST (link)

but… Super majority implies 67 Senators. A filibuster proof majority is what the left is wetting themselves over, I do believe.

Ok

Workingman Thursday, October 30th at 8:34PM EST (link)

I.e. Chuck Hagel, right?

 
 
 
 
 

Obama, Reid, Pelosi, first act 1/21/09 - the Leave No Democrat Behind Act

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 10:09PM EST (link)

They’ll find all kinds of cushy new jobs with pathetically high Salaries where the can hang around and do nothing but further plot the demise of America.

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

it's okay to be picky but

falseintellect Friday, October 31st at 12:18AM EST (link)

a supermajority only means a majority that is any percentage higher then 50% by definition, i believe.

in a legislative context referring to any necessary level of support above the simple majority.

Gosh those Libs Blow MOney!

pinkonaut Friday, October 31st at 3:09AM EST (link)

Prices:

Deficit When W took Office: ~ 5 trillion(Took 200 years)

Deficit Now: 10 Trillion. (Took 8 Yrs)

Poetic justice of low-info voters having to explain to their kids, they’ll have to pay that off in taxes or inflation: Priceless.

I expect...

drothgery Friday, October 31st at 9:21AM EST (link)

He’ll stay and Independent and caucus with the Republicans if this keeps up, deciding that he’s just not that much more liberal than Arlen Specter if he doesn’t have to make party-line votes.

Functional difference between 60 and 67

The_Gadfly (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 11:19AM EST (link)

if Obama is president: 0.

What I’m more concerned about is that if the Dems get to 60 and McCain is president the difference between 60 and 67 will still be a nominal 0. What is stopping the leftists in Congress now is that Republicans can filibuster their bad ideas in the Senate. If we lose that capacity, McCain will be forced to compromise more often than he would like, and he has a history of being more comfortable compromising than I am.

incorrect

mbauer (Diary) Saturday, November 1st at 1:59PM EST (link)

A majority by definition is over 50% (or 50% plus 1)
A plurality is having the most without having a majority (or 50% + 1)

heh

mbauer (Diary) Saturday, November 1st at 2:01PM EST (link)

except that 67% in both bodies would mean 1 party could edit the constitution. I’m sure lefties are currently daydreaming about this possibility in 2010.