Barack Obama has been pretty clear in expressing his views on the Iraq war:
The sacrifices of war are immeasurable. **It was not impossible to see back then that we might arrive at the place we’re at today.
I said then that a war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics would lead to a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I believed that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale or strong international support would only strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda and erode the good standing and moral authority that took our country generations to build. There were other experts, and leaders, and everyday Americans who believed this too.**
I wish we had been wrong. I wish we weren’t here talking about this at the beginning of the war’s fifth year. Because the consequences of this war have been profound. And the sacrifices have been immeasurable…No, it has not been a failure of resolve that has led us to this chaos, but a failure of strategy – a strategy that has only strengthened Iran’s strategic position; increased threats posed by terrorist organizations; reduced U.S. credibility and influence around the world; and placed Israel and other nations friendly to the United States in the region in greater peril…
History will not judge the architects of this war kindly. But the books have yet to be written on our efforts to right the wrongs we see in Iraq. The story has yet to be told about how we turned from this moment, found our way out of the desert, and took to heart the lessons of war that too many refused to heed back then…
Go read the rest of the speech — or don’t. I’m sure you remember what Obama has said about Iraq, and what a colossal mistake it was. Given Powell’s central role in the decision to go to war in Iraq, how can Obama accept his endorsement? Liberal blogger David Sirota poses the same question:
Just a little note on Colin Powell, who many believe will appear on Meet the Press to endorse Barack Obama this weekend. If this happens, the elite media will be ablaze with stories talking about how awesome and Serious and Respected Colin Powell is. While this propaganda will be good in its short-term benefit to Obama, it will be horrific in the long-term sense of our country’s ability to recognize its worst decisions and move forward from them.
Let’s just remember: Colin Powell is one of the major reasons we went to war in Iraq. In his 2003 United Nations speech, he perpetrated one of the biggest frauds in the history of international diplomacy – a fraud that, in terms of its blood-and-guts ramifications, dwarfs major scandals like Watergate.The idea that being endorsed by someone like that is a good thing – well, that logic may fly in the television studios of New York and D.C., but it shouldn’t fly anywhere else. A person whose most important legacy is destroying America’s international credibility shouldn’t be seen as a Serious or Respectable person, nor an asset to any campaign, no matter how many apologists – liberal or conservative – claim that “behind the scenes” Powell was really a good guy. He wasn’t a good guy – he was one of the handful of people who quite literally lied us into a war. That the elite media imparts even an ounce of credibility to this dishonest yes-man is not a commentary on Powell’s alleged positive attributes. It is a reflection of the elite media’s deep disdain for the facts and truth it purports to respect.
I don’t agree with Sirota on the wisdom of this war, but Barack Obama does! Or at least, he says he does. But not only does Barack Obama accept the nomination, he says that Powell will be offered an influential foreign policy assignment in his administration.
If Barack Obama really believed what he says about Iraq, he wouldn’t give Colin Powell the time of day, let alone allow Powell and his views to tarnish him. So we must ask again: what does Barack Obama really believe, and what is he saying simply because he thinks it will help him get to the White House?
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Tell me again how GWB has "won the war"...
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 1:54PM EST (link)We will not have won this war until the left admits we have. And GWB has firmly laid the groundwork for them to successfully claim a clear loss in Iraq.
If you only surround youself...
liberalrepublican (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 1:56PM EST (link)with people who are right all the time on all the big decisions, you are going to be a lonely person.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
Obama/Powell
VoterinNJ Monday, October 20th at 2:15PM EST (link)One of the blog writers stated in the Obama/Powell commentary the following: “So we must ask again: what does Barack Obama really believe, and what is he saying simply because he thinks it will help him get to the White House?”
In my opinion it’s the right question, but he’s asking it of the the wrong man. Obama has been consistent in his message on the war. The question really is best asked of Mr. Powell. He’s the one who initially supported the war and now supports Obama. Mr. Powell is the one who was for the war…that is, before he was against it.
I assume that the second half of the blog writer’s question must be rhetorical – after all, who among us does not believe that a candidate will say or do ANYTHING to get himself/herself elected.
Powell has always been average at best
Cowboy (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 2:28PM EST (link)I am being gracious.
Powell no surprise
fisk2521 Monday, October 20th at 2:29PM EST (link)I have never believed that Colin Powell was a Republican nor a friend of the Bush administration. I believe if Bush made mistakes, hiring those his enemies was one of his biggest.
Powell is a liberal at heart and his announcement, meant to be timed a very crucial time of this election , was no surprise. No Republican would actually yearn for a more liberal Judge on the Supreme Court.
The timing surprised me because I thought he was more honorable than that – - guess it was his military background that fooled me.
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Tossing Antiwar Libs under bus again
Guerc Monday, October 20th at 2:32PM EST (link)I was wondering when the libs would realize that Powell was Bush SecState and leading architect of Gulf War II. Ipso ergo sum, he should be frogmarched to jail.
If Obama was consistent, he would’ve disavowed Powell’s endorsement on those grounds alone.
Of course, if Powell was consistent, he wouldn’t associate himself with those loopy obamanaut peacenik libs. These are the pinkos that spit on U.S. servicemen coming home from Vietnam.
mbecker, if water falls from the sky but liberals deny its raining....
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 2:38PM EST (link)what’s up with you man?
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The problem
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 2:43PM EST (link)is that if Obama wins, he’ll have the means at his disposal to secure defeat.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
Powell stated that he was misled over Iraq
Woodywoodchopper Monday, October 20th at 2:45PM EST (link)It won’t be difficult for either of them. Powell stated years ago that he had been misled by the intelligence on WMD (as had the rest of the intelligence community). See here.
It will be very easy for him to state that he only supported the war because he believed false information.
As for strategy, Powell wanted a much larger invasion force. IMHO the bad strategy was due to Rumsfeld. If Powell had got his way the Surge would have happened in 2003.
Yes, as they call it victory, BUT
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 2:52PM EST (link)I do think that it is not a given either than Obama would secure defeat or can, given the progress since the surge.
But I now see the point.
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Gamecock. One simple question. Did we win
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 3:10PM EST (link)the Vietnam war?
Ask virtually anybody and the answer is no. But they don’t realize that after Tet, the VC was destroyed and the NVA was not a force on the battle field. They wanted to negotiate a peace treaty on out terms. And then came Walter Cronkite.
And we lost. And five million died in SE Asia. And the Democrats redesigned the military and the whole intelligence community. Reagan managed to rebuild the military the intel community is still a disaster. As is State.
All because the Ds beat the drum incessantly, which is nothing compared to what’s going to happen in an Obama Administration.
Colin Powell trying to reform his legacy.
drjecdo Monday, October 20th at 3:31PM EST (link)Colin Powell needs the Media to reform his legacy of being proven wrong at every turn for the last 18 years. He advised not to go into Baghdad and finish the job in the first Iraq War, which would have obviated the rest of history since. He enabled Clinton’s fecklessness regarding terrorism. He spearheaded (reluctantly) the liberation of Iraq – which he didn’t believe in – then stabbed Pres. Bush in the back at every turn as his Sec. of State. Now, he is completing the circle of incompetent advice to the country while sniffin’ for a job by paying his pennance to Lord Obama and the Media by again stabbing in the back the one man who was right during the whole War, and pegged the credit crisis..
After hearing and reading Powell’s non-sensical endorsement, I honestly doubt that this is anything more than another Black guy endorsing Barack to stick it to Whitey so that he looks good in the history books.
Does Powell Endorsement Help Obama?
DavidSage (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 3:40PM EST (link)I think the immediate reaction most people had when they heard Powell endorsed Obama was, “Of course he did, he’s black.” And you know what, they’re right. Powell has never endorsed a single white liberal politician in his life.
I think this unfortunate mentality among too many people in the African-American community, that every single decision has to be looked through the prism of race, infuriates a lot of white people, even good, non-racist ones.
It’s very similar to how most black people actually rallied around O.J. after he was accused of killing his wife. It had nothing to do with the facts of the case, just the man’s skin color. If you asked a friend off the record what they thought about how most of the black-community was supporting O.J., you would get a very negative response.
I think if anything, this endorsement just stokes the Bradley effect this election.
Heh
Badill_T Monday, October 20th at 3:58PM EST (link)Didn’t Buchanan echo that same sentiment?
This could have the opposite effect – hearing conservatives say that Powell endorsed Obama solely because of skin color leads to higher-than-predicted African American turnout for Obama.
In any event watching people here trash Powell for incompetence when he essentially called for a surge to start the war on the right path, while it was Rumsfeld pushing for a small, nimble force backed up by airpower, is sickening. What are you people faulting him for? Someone said he was wrong for not pushing into Baghdad during the Desert Storm, but Cheney backed him up on that one in 1994 or 1995, stating that it would have been a mess and they were right not to invade.
I realize the cognitive dissonance must be overwhelming, but trashing on a man who has served our country honorably does nobody any good around here. I’ve seen a lot of trash talk recently about honest, decent men (Powell and Buffet come to mind), simply because they disagree politically. Ugh.
Thank you.
Rottimer Monday, October 20th at 4:13PM EST (link)When I see someone who gave the best parts of his life in service to this country trashed it hurts my eyes. I mean that about Powell and I mean it for McCain as well. Maybe it’s because I’m a vet and a bit biased in that respect. But I entirely understand where you’re coming from.
So Ridiculous
DavidSage (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 4:34PM EST (link)This notion that people who served in the military are above criticism is absolutely absurd.
Sorry, we get to question political leaders who once wore the uniform, that goes for both sides of the aisle, from John McCain to John Kerry. I never disparaged Powell’s service to the country, but I am disparaging his politics.
The left gets particularly excited when they find a liberal who was once in the military. They think his biography trumps all criticisms. I have news for you, it doesn’t.
Colin Powell made a decision I feel was based primarily on skin color, which is wrong. Powell having been in the military is not going to stop me from expressing that opinion.
You're contradicting his own words
Badill_T Monday, October 20th at 4:44PM EST (link)Powell clearly laid out the reasons he’s choosing Obama. If you want to call him a liar, or perhaps instead simply suggest that he has not looked within himself to discern his own true motives, more power to you. I will respectfully disagree.
Also, I am all for honestly questioning a politician’s policies regardless of military service. I regret that McCain’s military service has become a centerpiece of his campaign, because I do not think it is particularly revealing of his capabilities or intentions. People can serve our country for many reasons, some of which I agree with and some of which I don’t.
Besides, I’m pointing out the trashing of Powell that’s going on, not the honest disagreement with his politics. It’s one thing to say “I disagree with his points because…” It’s quite another to say, “Meh, he’s just another black man for Obama” or “He is and always has been an incompetent as revealed by his current political choices.” I understand the desire to reduce him to a simple sound bite, but the world is rarely so simple.
I've never understood Powell's appeal.
LibertarianHawk (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 4:46PM EST (link)And that goes all the way back to 1996 or so when Republicans were hoping against hope that he’d run for the GOP nomination.
Of course, that’s not to diminish any of his military accomplishments. And, yeah, the Gulf War went quickly and smoothly. But, let’s face it, it wasn’t the biggest military undertaking this nation has ever faced.
Since that time, I’ve regarded Colin Powell as something of a milquetoast who values, over everything else, being universally admired as a statesman and sage.
But why is he so admired? Because he got his four stars? Well, that’s a very genuine and rare accomplishment. But it’s not that rare. I’ve never heard him say anything that struck me as unusually wise and profound.
I’m sure people will say this is just sour grapes from the endorsement. But, really, I’ve thought this about him for a long time.
But this is what am saying
Rottimer Monday, October 20th at 4:47PM EST (link)Despite what the man said people are saying he based his choice on race. That is questioning the honor and integrity of a man who served his country honorably for decades.
I may disagree with what Powell says about his own conservatism (particularly his notion about how far the right has moved and his opinion on SC judges) but I’m not going to disparage the man by implying that he’s a liar and made his choice primarily on race, despite his stating the opposite.
I Think Powell's Being Dishonest
DavidSage (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 5:13PM EST (link)The reason’s Powell gave make for making his endorsement makes no sense, so yes, I think he’s not telling us the real reason for his endorsement. Powell has never once endorsed a Democrat politician, and Obama’s politics are hardly centrist positions.
McCain is much closer to the middle than every President Powell has served under, and Obama is far to the left of every Democrat Powell has opposed.
I could understand if Powell went the other way if the Republican nominee was someone like Tancredo or Buchanan, but McCain is very much of a mainstream, centrist Republican, and Obama is the most liberal, dovish Democrat politician to ever run for the Presidency.
I get to criticize Powell for his decision, and the dishonest reasons he gave. His military service and skin color doesn’t make him off limits for criticism.
A larger invasion force ...
John Steele (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 5:34PM EST (link)… would not have wrapped up the Iraqis any faster — good grief man it only took a month as it was. Twice as many men would not have done better.
It isn’t the invasion force that was the problem, it was the lack of an occupation mentality. We spent every waking hour trying not to be depicted as an occupying force and did our best to not be seen “controlling” (i.e. occupying) a “noble Islamic country” and all the rest of that politically correct nonsense.
As to Powell, he was, is and will remain, an opportunistic SOB. There is a special place in H*ll for his kind of man.
John – Miami
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Brian, we know what Obama believes. He's an appeasing McGoverite and a liar
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 5:34PM EST (link)We shouldn’t pretend that we don’t know what he believes. We know.
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I guess I'm a socialist
apttitle1 Monday, October 20th at 7:01PM EST (link)Let me ask all of you folks posing the “Socialism issue” a simple question. What is it about Obama’s plan that suggests he’s a socialist? The fact that he wants to tax the extremely wealthy and cut taxes for the extremely poor? This isn’t a redistribution of wealth. There’s nothing here that suggests Obama is interested in taking that money from the wealthy and GIVING it to the poor. That’s not what he’s doing with his tax plan. He’s simply putting the burden of our society a little bit more on the shoulder’s of those who can most handle it and taking it a little off of those who can’t. That burden of our society, as Powell so clearly put it in his Meet The Press appearance includes maintenance of our roads, police forces, fire departments, schools, public infrastructure like bridges, public utilities (sewer, water, gas), our military, etc. Now I don’t know about you, but I tend to think that these burdens of our society are incredibly important to us as a nation. And its easy for me to say because I’m not in the 5% of the country who’d be taxed a little more, that I think taxing the rich is a good way to go towards making sure those things are ensured and supported by our government. Hell, whatever taxes I would end up paying under an Obama presidency I would much prefer go towards these VITAL services. Call me a Socialist if you like, but I just think I’m a patriot.
Yep it just took you to now to register right
PaRep (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:07PM EST (link).
before you registered [looks at watch] 10 minutes ago
David Hinz (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:11PM EST (link)what did you do with your life? Did you do any reading? Look at all into Sen Obama’s background? Read anything that he said about himself?
Socialist friends from youth? Socialist teachers, associates, policies?
educate yourself before you come here and leave little brown spots all over the carpet…
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It was time to speak up
apttitle1 Monday, October 20th at 7:14PM EST (link)I’ve been reading for a long while, its just now that I decided I should speak up.
Which Socialist friends are you referring to? What Socialist teachers? If by educators you mean Socialists, well then I guess I know where you stand.
SURE you have astroturfer
PaRep (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:17PM EST (link).
read his book
David Hinz (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:21PM EST (link)and you are a liar
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
what is astroturfer?
apttitle1 Monday, October 20th at 7:22PM EST (link)If that has something to do with Obama’s socialist friends, well then you’re right about me not doing my homework. Please educate me.
You know very well what it is
PaRep (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:25PM EST (link).
seriously man... I'm ignorant here, please let me know what you mean!
apttitle1 Monday, October 20th at 7:27PM EST (link)Are you referring to the field turf in baseball stadiums?
Who is BO (or anyone in gov't) to say...
kat (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:28PM EST (link)What is rich and what isn’t? Someone living where I live in the hills of PA, yeah, $250,000 is a lot of money. But to someone in certain areas of California, $250K is a family of four living in a small house going from paycheck to paycheck. Setting a $ amount and saying this is wealthy is totally random and doesn’t take into account the cost of living in any part of the country.
And yes, it is Socialism. The definition of Socialism is a political philosophy advocating substantial public involvement, through government ownership, in the means of production and distribution. Obama has told us that he wants use our tax dollars to create more government jobs and as he so famously told Joe the Plumber – he wants to spread the wealth around to those behind those who succeed. That, my friends, is socialism.
“Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” Thomas Jefferson
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as opposed to what we have already?
apttitle1 Monday, October 20th at 7:36PM EST (link)Don’t we tax payers already pay for the garbage man, the street paver, the school teacher, the gas man? I mean seriously what country do you think you’ve been living in? Our taxes already go towards these things. Have we been living in a socialist country ever since the beginning?
Agreed, and we failed to impose a Western style constitution
JSobieski (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:36PM EST (link)like we did on Germany and Japan.
The provision about no law being contrary to Islamic law is the seed upon which our great effort will eventually be laid low.
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Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
"Socialism" is not a simple matter of who pays
alchemist17 (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 7:50PM EST (link)But more properly on who gets to make the decisions. Spreading the wealth is a generally socialist idea, but the bigger complaint is that Obama (and the Democrats in Congress) support policies that have the government making the decisions for you – “for your own good”, of course.
You list “maintenance of our roads, police forces, fire departments, schools, public infrastructure like bridges, public utilities (sewer, water, gas), our military, etc” as reasons to support Obama – of these, I can only agree on the military as a legitimate federal issue. The remaining should be state issues – with state/local governments deciding how to balance the cost/benefit tradeoffs and remaining accountable to voters on a scale where individuals can enact real change.
I want decisions to be made by the people and not the government. I consider government-run health care to be “socialist” because as one of the largest providers government will strongly determine what becomes “reasonable and customary” – and I’d rather that be a decision between doctor and patient. So while who pays is important, who decides is far more important.
Agree on the VN comments, but ...
skorrent Monday, October 20th at 7:52PM EST (link)BO has got himself in a bit of a bind. He has sworn to “get” OBL and “win” in Afghanistan. If he allows Iraq to disintegrate there is no way in he** he can prevail in Afg’. We would be driven out of there, and probably the whole Middle East, in his first term. That would not make the Messiah look good.
BO has been saying “Troops out in 16 months.” for the last 24 months. If he keeps saying it for the next two years we might actually leave stability behind.
I don't agree with 'lost'
1SGinTN (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 8:00PM EST (link)We stopped fighting and supporting our allies. I don’t recall anybody on our side surrendering their sword.
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Colin Powell may be the left's last bastion of cherished "dissent"...
CSUFBomb (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 8:08PM EST (link)…because if Obama wins the presidency, dissent will no longer be the left’s idea of the highest form of patriotism.
Anyone who turns on Barry like Powell turned on the GOP will be thug-bait.
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Seriously...
Brian Faughnan (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 9:45PM EST (link)Are you really not kidding? Have you read current events news at all?
You cannot ‘cut taxes’ on those who do not pay taxes. First look here, then come back and read some more. The top 5% currently pay 60% of all income taxes. How much do you propose to increase their burden? And how much higher can it go before you would consider it to be socialism?
The bottom 50% pay 3% of all federal income taxes. I bet you would be angry at a Republican who opposed eliminating them from the tax rolls entirely — because you would complain that they weren’t getting enough of a tax cut. You’d complain about some politician who was so cheap as to only propose reducing their taxes by so little — even if it did amount to everything they’re currently paying.
No we didn't, and yes, dems could un-do Iraq
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 10:29PM EST (link)I see your point.
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He's also sworn that we will go back to the wildly successful
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 11:27PM EST (link)Clinton model of fighting terrorism with lawyers. He can quite rightly say that the use of the US military has done nothing but drive OBL into hiding in Pakistan where we will have to start WWIII to get him.
It’s time now to recognize Islamic nations as partners seeking world peace, that even GWB has noted that Islam is a “religion of peace”, that our unilateral support for Israel is the problem, that we can make room at the table for the Palestinians, blah, blah, blah. And the same folks who turned a blind eye to the killing fields in Cambodia and the Vietnamese boat people, the same folks who thought the Jews would be fine in Germany and who thought Stalin was an agrarian reformer will stand by and watch as elements of radical Islam institute Shiara (sp) law in Europe and Canada and wipe Israel off the map. Islamic radicals can likely even afford to “make peace” with us while they solidify their program around the world.
Bottom line, he’ll walk away from his “tough” Afghanistan talk quicker than he’s thrown every one of his former mentors and associates under the ObamaBus. And the American people won’t blink an eye. After all, we can’t be the world’s policeman you know.
To Kowalski...
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, October 20th at 11:37PM EST (link)See the PowerLine guys… Obama’s foreign policy — Carter’s ends through Clinton’s means?
Money quote:
I love it when the smartest guys around agree with me. Even though I hate the ending.
Not that I don't agree with you about policy but
Rottimer Monday, October 20th at 11:39PM EST (link)there is no where in this country where a family of four making $250,000/yr is living paycheck to paycheck unless they are living HIGHLY above their means. I live in NYC, and a family of four lives quite comfortably here on that amount. Let’s not get hyperbolic.
not socialism
apttitle1 Monday, October 20th at 11:40PM EST (link)All I’m saying is that you must agree that we already live in a socialist environment. We pay taxes, we get services, the government employees people to do those services. There’s nothing that McCain or Obama can or will do to change that.
As for the services issue, well I didn’t list health care, and you’re certainly misinformed if you think that Obama is suggesting govnt run health care. And I actually agree with you that teh states and local governments should be making decisions about these things. The big problem is that under the last 8 years of Bush, funding to the states has dramatically been cut. I mean are you willing to maintain the rodes yourself? Besides its independent contractors who bid on government contracts that end up doing the work and getting paid for it. Its hardly ever the government who does the work. Its more about priorities and where these candidates priorities stand. Do they stand with the little guy, that would be people like myself who make up most of the population (I make some 35,000 a year) or giving the big guys those who make a quarter of a million dollars more breaks than they get. I know that those like me share a smaller percentage of the tax burden because well we just don’t make so much money. But like I said, I’m willing to pay my part, and more and I think that just makes me patriotic.
I live in the SF Bay Area
I actually always thought you guys were arrogant pinheads. Tuesday, October 21st at 12:27AM EST (link)One of the most expensive parts of the country…in the world actually. Even here 250,000 is much more than “A family of 4 living in a small house from paycheck to paycheck”. People making that kind of money are doing very well here-don’t pretend that it is “middle class”. If you do, you really don’t know what your are talking about.
Anyone who turns on Obama/Pelosi/Reid
Augustine Tuesday, October 21st at 12:34AM EST (link)will never be heard from again due to “Fairness Doctrine” complaints. After all there is no place for people on the airwaves or the internet who are ipso facto racists/sexist/ageist.
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Why Powell Did Not Run in 1996, and Why He Endorses Big Brobama
Strelnikov (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:10AM EST (link)The answer is the same: he is a liberal!
So he decided Clinton, as a fellow liberal, was just fine in ’96.
He might be endorsing Big Brobama because of race, but the other reason is clear: basic liberalism.
Powell is not a Republican, and probably never has been in his heart: note his “pro-choice” advocacy as far back as the mid-’90′s.
A comment was made above about McCain making his military service the “centerpiece” of his campaign.
All I can say is: Huh?
Certainly not like Kerry did by any means! I have not heard McCain’s ordeal in Vietnam mentioned in months. And just as well! Americans do not like to hear that they owe an office to a candidate because of his military service (rf. Kerry).
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