But, you see, that could never happen at the SCOTUS level because we know ginsburg, souter, stevens and breyer would never force that upon the country and justice kennedy is a surefire vote against that! That is why we dare not mention that possibility, because is is just so farfetched!

It will help with the Hispanic vote for sure, which has been trending heavily for Obama.

There’s a commercial running with SF Mayor Gavin Newsom having a a Howard Dean moment;
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It’s been very effective around these parts. Put out by this group;
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-I recall reading Nobama’s piece on McCain’s hidden vote in the primary. It focused on California, where McCain recieved 7 percent higher total than the polls predicted. He is polling -10 in the CA general.

• The gay marriage vote typically steers general voters towards a conservative ticket.

-California is liberal like Michigan and Massachusetts in the sense there is a growing sense of malaise for high rhetoric. The idealistic enthusiasm is old and fading.

-There may be a bradley effect, but not where people think. Here’s a dirty little secret, hispanics in Greater L.A. are more hostile to blacks than whites. The growing racial riff between blacks and hispanics is becomeing epidemic.

• Palin campaigned in Carson and it was called a Californian Repubican woodstock (what was she doing in California anyway).

• California Democrats are not organized and motivated in CA like they are in battleground states. Dems not high GOTV efforts and fraud to compete with Republicans. They are not organized in CA.

• CA is liberal, but vey unpredictable. You could say they like being a maverick state.

• On election night, McCain loses key red states, all is lost, Democrats are drunk and celebrating, but midnight hits, what’s this a close race in CA, could McCain pull it off in CA – an election for the ages.

Yes, its just a dream – well maybe 2% plausibility.

I hate to admit to being a little conflicted on Prop 8. Maybe it’s a libertarian streak in me because despite my strong Southern Baptist upbringing, I’m fifth generation Texan and I guess I just get uncomfortable with government telling people what to do. And now that I live in California, I’ve definitely started to get annoyed by the Mormons from Utah trying to influence California state politics. Fiscal conservatism is what I know, and my parents pretty much raised me to live and let live, so I can’t get too jazzed up about some of these cultural issues.

I think with or without my vote, however, the Yes on Prop 8 group has far more financial support than the opponents. I am pleasantly surprised by the lack of donations from very rich, influential gay Californians.

Nothing on what Connecticut’s Supreme Court did today?

…to defeat Prop 8. No on 8

Have McCain campaign in California in support of Proposition 8.

Talk about family values. Talk about the importance of two-parent households. All that stuff. Yes, the democrats will start screaming about how many marriages he’s had and all that but, hey. Most of the country is divorced anymore. That backlash against McCain would do more harm than good.

End the speeches with “While you’re there, vote for me… because you know that if Prop 8 fails, Obama will push for a Prop 8 1/2.” (Or something like that. A decent speechwriter could come up with something funny.)

Hit the Latino Catholics, the Baptist African-Americans, and the Mega-church folks in the northern part of the state. Have your own folks videotape the protestors.

The media would cover this sort of thing relentlessly as evidence of McCain’s bigotry and it would act as an advertisment for the rest of the country. Additionally, there would be the occasional internal poll that could be announced that McCain is within Bradley Effect distance of Obama in California and force Obama to stop campaigning in the swing states and force him to defend his turf… meanwhile, the “McCain is such a bigoted bigot JUST LIKE YOU PEOPLE!!!” news stories would be running in the swing states.

I mean, yeah, I’m a gay marriage supporter but I saw Prop 8 as McCain’s foot in the door and I don’t understand why he hasn’t done more with it.

protectmarriage.com is the organization leading the efforts to pass prop 8. Their ads have been very effective so far, but the opposition is raising millions from the ACLU, hollywood, etc.

Because of the nature of CA, if this measure fails gay marriage is coming to the country soon. If it passes it is going to set back efforts to impose gay marriage by decades.

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We should have amended the constitution to avoid any of this non-sense spreading.

We need more mainstream focus on the power of the family unit so that people can appreciate that while they are free to do as they will, there are certain cherished traditions that they do not have the right to destroy, simply because they view themselves as being different from other.

Trying to please everyone by having a live and let live attitude is a slippery slope that leads to absolute relativism, a paradox that cannot not function and leads to decay and eventual failure. The more political correctness takes hold of the American dialogue, the closer we get to sliding on down.

I am in California and I am voting for Prop 8, but not because of the reasons stated above. Nope, I’m voting in favor of 8 not because of the underlying social issue, but instead because I can’t stand the idea of 4 out of 7 justices in the CA supreme court overturning the will of the people.

If the CA Supreme court justices are allowed to do this, what’s next for these judges? Redefine what is a citizen, what restrictions should be placed on my other rights?

The battle over this is being framed now in CA is one of “human rights”, with the usual groups on each side of that term. I personally think the way the conservative side is being fought is based on the wrong argument, the social issue, instead of the issue of justices overturning the will of the people as originally expressed in Prop 22, but I’m still voting in favor of Prop 8.

Like Steve, I am voting for Prop 8 because of the tyranny of the courts. When four lawyers can overturn the will of the people, freedom is lost.

I think we are really mixed up on the answer to this question, or Prop 8 would pass in a landslide.

A couple of things:

Marriage has a purpose; it’s more than a contractual arrangement.

Marriage extracts a certain cost for society and government, therefore there must be a reciprocal and meaningful benefit for said society.

Historically, the purpose of marriage was to provide a protected and lasting biological unit for rearing children. Marriage protects children, our future, which is a pretty big benefit.

What is the benefit given society in exchange for legal same-sex marriage? I’ve yet to hear a convincing argument, aside from an emotional plea about rights.

Unfortunately, redefining marriage will erode the currently shrinking protection marriage affords children. Remember, there was a reason why at one time no fault divorce was illegal. But so quickly we forget…

Please, please vote for this amendment.

I live in California and it is outrageous that the California Supreme Court has decided to invalidate the will of the people and create a right that doesn’t exist in the Constitution.

The Court wants to redefine what marriage is–that is an outrage! No where in the California State Constitution or the U.S. Constitution does it say that gay people have the right to marry.

The definition of marriage has always been defined as the union of one man and one woman.

This is the issue. It is not a civil rights issue and gay people already enjoy all of the benefits that married people have in California.

The court and liberals are attempting to control and redefine basic concepts of our culture–this is a slippery slope since when will the stop?

I’ll be damned if I am forced to say that Bob and Joe are “married”. But under the current situation I can see the day when people will be sanctioned or punished for NOT recognizing publicly and privately gay “married” couples.

What’s next? Perhaps the liberals will end up banning conservatives. They already are attempting to ban hunting. There’s a proposition on the ballot to ban caged chickens in egg producing farms!

The extreme liberals of California have conservative and traditional American values in their sights.

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where is the stories on sarah palin? i know the report was called a “partisan attack by obama supporters” but the report was actually made possible through bipartisan support. what gives?