Why do 2 out of 3 Americans think the Messiah will do a good job on our economy?
What did he do in the Senate? Even his personal financial dealings have been shady.

I am just beside myself. No one cares except us.

First, full disclosure. I’m a progressive who reads several conservative sites most days just to make sure my beliefs get challenged. I figure if readers here want their beliefs challenged, they’ll go look at some liberal sites, so I haven’t felt compelled to post anything contrarian.

However, I’d like someone to explain how the idea of progressive taxation is not conservative. It was first proposed by Adam Smith, in the Wealth of Nations (“It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.”), and has been seen as a sort of common sense approach to funding social goods (defense, lighthouses, whatever) ever since, on the grounds that the wealthiest benefit disproportionately from those social goods. I understand that lowering total tax rates and reducing government is a longstanding conservative priniciple, but is flat tax also one? Seems like Steve Forbes was the last proponent, and he didn’t get much traction with it.

Has something changed, and if so, what is the principled position against progressive taxation?

I bet your challenge gets roundly ignored though.

Would it be possible to do to everyone? If you go to the average person and said: Look, if Obama had his way, you’d pay an additional $20,000 in the last eight years. Now, if you don’t have $20,000 in your non-emergency fund right now, thing about what you would’ve had to done differently in the last eight years to have it? Perhaps you didn’t move to that nicer house. Maybe you held on to that junker car for a few more years. Maybe you didn’t take that dream vacation. Perhaps you told your kids, “Sorry, you’ll have to pay for your own college.”

What stuff would you be willing to give up in the future for Obama?

Democrats whine and complain about the Tax cuts but then are more than happy to file their taxes and keep their savings.

Every time new Tax cuts are implemented it should be REQUIRED that both new and old forms be filled out and sent in – the taxpayer can then CHOOSE which one to use. They will (of course) choose the one that saves them money. This is the ONLY way to get the average moronic Demagogue (er.. Democrat) to actually see (and have to admit to themselves, at least at Tax time, before purposefully choosing denial). There might be some of those “Independents” that would then actually WAKE THE __ UP!

The issue is whether Obama is willing to put his money where his mouth is. Consider:

1. He says that the marginal tax rates on the top two brackets should never have come down. All this time, they should have remained 39.6% and 36%.

2. If he’s saying that the rate cuts were wrong, then how can he justify keeping the money? Shouldn’t he have applied his “spread the wealth” principles and given the money to someone lower down the income ladder? Heck, I’ll take it.

Let’s keep our eye on the ball. Just like Democrats send their kids to private school while opposing vouchers for poor people, this is a case of rank, rank hypocrisy.

Obama’s campaign site now is trying to imply (read:spin) a new link/site TaxCutFacts.org as some impartial comparison of the two candidates differing Tax policies that they will enact if elected.

Go to the site to try the full calculator, but here is a limited function one:

What, of course, IT DOESN’T TELL YOU is how IT DISTORTS THE FACTS. In order for Obama’s Tax Cuts to “appear” better than McCain’s Tax plans it first takes into account the CANCELLATION OF THE BUSH CUTS and THEN REINSTITUTES THEM AS PART OF THE OBAMA PLAN (except, of course, those pesky breaks for the Rick folks, the top rate will be left back at 39%). McCain will KEEP the Bush cuts AND BUILDS UPON THEM! So when you do the calculation, you get McCains “additional” (ON TOP OF THE CURRENT BUSH TAX CUT SAVINGS) to compare to the distorted/phony Obama number. It compares Apples to prunes (and designed to give you the …. that the prunes would).

So, let me say it again straight-up without chance of misunderstanding. In the Obama calculator it shows any McCain Tax savings incorrectly because you will have the benefit of the additional amount you already currently enjoy with the Bush Cuts (Marriage penalty eliminated, personal exemptions increased, additional tax credits, etc…) You can and should add another $1,000 to the (displayed) McCain amount MINIMUM!

FIGHT THE DISTORTIONS of the ObamaBinBiden ticket, you must let your friends know of the manner in which they are attempting to deceive them in regard to the Tax Cut plans!