When the Business Community Strays Far, Very Far, from the Reservation


Mistakes made and lessons learned

Recently, in Human Events and in the DC Examiner I have referred to this election as the “Worker Freedom” election – indicating that this election will either make-it-or-break-it for Big Labor.

Yet with the millions, or even billions, of dollars the business community and some trade associations represent, this election should not be the worker freedom election.

Why? Because presumably, businesses (represented by the business community) support lowering the corporate income tax, oppose massive unionization, support lowering the capital gains tax, oppose EFCA (card check), etc, etc and the list goes on and on. There is one candidate and one party that supports all of the things the business community wants and the other candidate and party opposes – on tax issues, energy issues, and labor issues.

So with all that weight, the Republicans, who support lower taxes and oppose card check, should have the full support of the business community and their resources and we should be taking back Democrat Senate seats in districts and states that went Bush twice, right? Wrong!

So why isn’t that happening…


Well, a funny thing happened and it has a lot to do with the fact that a compromise is not a compromise if one side wins and the other side loses.

Allow me to provide an example (this is just one example-there are many).

A group opposes Card Check, publically and vehemently. A candidate endorses, co-sponsors and votes for Card Check. Then that same group who opposed Card Check, endorses the candidate who endorsed Card Check.

I will be the first to admit that I do not know all of the circumstances surrounding this specific case, but a quick gut check would tell you that if you are, on principle, opposed to Card Check, then you do not endorse a candidate who co-sponsors the bill that you have spent your members dues to oppose.

Not surprisingly, that Democrat candidate is now winning, by a clear margin, in a state, in the deep South, that went Bush twice.

Now that your head has stopped spinning and you have stoped cursing at the monitor, this is a debate and a dialogue (a painful one at that), that is vitally necessary and important to have.

So, let’s have one…thoughts?


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Apparently card check

I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. (Diary) Wednesday, October 22nd at 3:29PM EST (link)

just wasn’t the most important factor for the CoC. Here’s what some CoC leaders said with regards to the endorsement:

“At no other time in our nation’s history has it been more critical that Members of Congress provide leadership that protects and advances the interests of the business community, “Thomas Donohue, President and CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wrote in the Chamber’s endorsement letter to Sen. Landrieu. “We believe that your election to the U.S. Senate will help produce sustained economic growth and promote America’s competitiveness in world markets.”

“Senator Landrieu has been a champion for Louisiana businesses and a great leader in helping to rebuild her state,” said William C. Miller, Senior Vice President for Political Affairs and National Political Director at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. “Her support for job creation and aggressively working in a bipartisan manner has been a great asset to the state’s business community as well as the nation. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is proud to offer its endorsement to Senator Mary Landrieu and looks forward to working with her in the next Congress.”

quotes found here:
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/Louisiana/Politics/LouisianaSen.LandrieuGetsUSChamberofCommerceSupport__6282.asp

at that site you can also see a copy of the endorsement letter, although it’s basically just a form letter.

 

They are alligator feeders

bobbymike (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 12:34PM EST (link)

I have many friends that work for large corporations. The larger the comapny the more they support the status quo.

I asked one friend, close to what this missive details,and he said, “we have a tax department, a legal department, regulatory specialists. We have the people to deal with whoever is in office”.

I have found that the larger the corporation the bigger the political cowards they are, so fearful are they of retribution. They flock to the party in power hoping that if they feed the alligator they are the last ones to get eaten.

 

Four reasons for big business's behavior

joeljournal (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 1:01PM EST (link)
  1. They are hedging their bets. They know McCain will be good for the economy, and they are terrified of Obama, so they are trying to gain influence with Obama in case he wins. If he loses, they know McCain won’t punish them for backing Obama.

  2. They know Obama’s pay-to-play game. In Obamanomics, you have to contribute cash or political support to get government contracts. Since Obama wants to radically increase the size of government, there may be lots of contracts to go ’round and they don’t want to miss an opportunity.

  3. Cognitive dissonance. Many of today’s business leaders were educated at universities that taught them to hate the free market. They like making money but they feel guilty about it and believe that Obama can resolve this contradiction for them.

  4. Republicans need to make the case better. The Bush years were not great for fiscal responsibility. It’s time for conservatives to step up and defend the free market again, using clear arguments and credible leaders to deliver them.

Joel Pollak
Guide to the Perplexed
http://guidetotheperplexed.blogspot.com

 

Why big business can love regulation (and Democrats)

kweiss01 Thursday, October 23rd at 1:06PM EST (link)

Someone once wrote (I can’t remember who) that regulation is actually in the best interest of BIG business. The argument went like this:

When businesses are regulated, they pass the costs on to consumers. This hurts small and medium-sized businesses more than big businesses. Even though there are frequently benchmarks where regulation kicks in, apparently exempting small business, what these benchmarks really do is provide small businesses with an incentive to stay small and avoid the added costs of regulation. This reduces the threat of small businesses turning into serious competitors for big businesses. Meanwhile, the big businesses of the world go on their merry way, raising prices alongside their big business competitors.

I believe the fining of the tobacco industry presents an example of this in action. Big tobacco went on to sell cigarettes in China — many small and mid-size tobacco companies went out of business.

 

BIG business needs an arse kicking

Republican_Michigander (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 2:18PM EST (link)

Look at the Soros types. Gazillionaires love government. They want to keep competition down, and use government regulations to do so.

I just hope the big business that supports the left and the ultrarich get taxed out of their minds with no loopholes for them whatsoever. Tax of 100% on those with 1 Billion or more.

Then I’d tell them to shut up since they voted for them.

Less Government, More Freedom

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This is true in many cases

joeljournal (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 2:20PM EST (link)

I’ve seen it before… and yet people never learn that it doesn’t work in the end.

Joel Pollak
Guide to the Perplexed
http://guidetotheperplexed.blogspot.com

 
 

Brian, thank you for that point

robertallen Thursday, October 23rd at 4:45PM EST (link)

There are millions of us in “small business” or self-employed who have joined to help “big business” on issues that frankly do not effect (at best) and arguable hurt (at worse) us as small/self-employed business people. On the other hand, big business supports financially and otherwise the perverted homosexual community and other social-left agendas.
There needs to be, and I believe will be, a reevaluation of this relationship after November. I know, I know, I need to think “big picture” on “big business” issues like minimum wage, corporate tax “breaks”, etc., but I am tiring of supporting them while they support liberal Democrats who hammer the small businesses economically (in tandem) and champion and financially support far-left social issues.

 

Worker Freedom

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 5:11PM EST (link)

have referred to this election as the “Worker Freedom” election

The Democrats that “Free” themselves from their jobs (as more go overseas or companies just plain close down) deserve to sow what they are reaping (trouble is, the rest of us have to suffer it also, undeservedly). They will “liberate” themselves right into the unemployment line, but won’t mind as with fellow Socialist in unfettered control will keep the unemployment checks rolling out to them.

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A couple of great points above but the

DGaines (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:53PM EST (link)

bottom line is: big business has teams of tax attorneys and accountants dedicated to finding loopholes, creating additional expenses, and generally getting around tax regulation very efficiently.

On the other hand small business does not, which is why as several have pointed out; big business cares little who is in office and small business cares a lot.

As Republicans we have to realize we are NOT the party of business, we are the party of small business, most people who work at large business left us a long time ago.

Do we really need to be the party of small business?

DKH Thursday, October 23rd at 11:59PM EST (link)

Do we really need to choose favorites? Make promises to specific groups to try to buy votes? I’d really prefer it if Republicans would be a party of equality rather than of favorites. Trying to buy votes is one of the reasons I can’t stand Democrats.

Card Check not the most important...

Brian M. Johnson (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:11AM EST (link)

factor for the business community?

Rampant unionization, loss of jobs, loss of personal control over 401k’s, extreme increase in cost of litigation, etc…

If it isn’t the most important…it’s number 2! Regardless, actions like this are antithetical to what other organizations are working do hard to achieve.

With the money and clout behind groups like the CoC, there is no reason for this.

Brian M Johnson

and the compromise confusion...

Brian M. Johnson (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:15AM EST (link)

The reason you compromise is when there is a chance that the compromise will result in a win-win. Not a win-lose.

Landrieu doesn’t reverse her decision or support for EFCA so she wins. She may be moderately decent on taxes, for now. But her pandering for unions in a state where the TOTAL UNIONIZATION RATES ARE 5.6% is unacceptable.

Brian M Johnson

Republicans who pander to unions and raise taxes are like rat-heads in Coke bottles.

Brian M. Johnson (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:20AM EST (link)

As Grover Norquist says, Republicans who vote for tax increases (and I would add union pandering) are like rat heads in a Coke bottle. You buy Coke for the quality. You know, that a Coke is going to taste like a Coke because of the brand. You dont need to call your friends and ask them if this Coke from this store is good. No. Because it says Coke on the bottle. But once you find a rat head in one, it ruins the brand forever. You call your friends and tell them about it and they dont buy Coke and the word spreads. You don’t go back and say, well, maybe this time….etc.

Republicans who vote for unions and tax increases are like rat heads in a Coke bottle – they ruin the brand for everyone else.

Brian M Johnson