“the procedural Nuclear Option”

yeah but it’s not called that now. When republicans wanted to get some judges to do the work of judges, THEN it was “the Nuclear Option”.

When democrats want to take over 1/6th of the American economy, it’s “reconciliation”.

The bright side of the Democrats using the nuclear option is that the Republicans, when they someday end up in the Senate majority, will no longer have any excuse to not use the nuclear option to confirm judicial nominees.

The way the Republicans allowed Miguel Estrada to twist in the wind just because a minority of the Senate, all Democrats, decided to engage in a judicial filibuster, was shameful.

When Republicans campaign for things like medical liability reform and allowing people to purchase health insurance across state lines, they never tell us, “Well, we support those ideas. But they will never happen because the Demcorats will filibuster those ideas and we will likely only have 53 to 55 votes in the Senate. We need 60.”

Basically, the Republicans play conservatives for fools. They tells us that if we work hard and elect Republicans, they will enact a conservative agenda. But then they fall back on the excuse that the Democrats always filibuster their conservative agenda.

At least if the Democrats use the nuclear option, the Republicans will not longer has an excuse to act like wimps based on the filibuster excuse.

The filibuster wasn’t envisioned by James Madison anyway. The filibuster began as a mistake when Vice President Aaron Burr deleted a Senate rule that was used to end debate and didn’t realize that this would make it nearly impossible to stop debate in the Senate.

We are not only fighting this battle against the democrats who controll Congress. We are also fighting the left wing media clowns as well. They are stoking the fires as we speak and calling for their liberal friends who frequent their internet sites to call their Senators and Representatives to pass this legislation.

Obama has a very powerful lobby on his side. The liberal main stream media and the vast network of liberal internet sites. We must go to these sites and stop them in their own game. Show in force how we will stop them and their agenda.

Here is one good place to start. http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/02/28/health-care-can-nancy-pelosi-get-it-done/#comments

It doesn’t cost a dime to voice yourself. We need to take the fight to their own liberal bastions. Speak out and let your voices be heard.

Then the GOP should feel no qualms about nuking the filibuster to overturn all this crap, once they run the government again.

is running ads in crucial districts to stop this very real threat to our freedoms.

http://leagueofamericanvoters.com/

You can help, Everyone can do something everyday and we will defeat this legislation which has little to do with reforming our health care system…

Stand up now or lose the nation you have known.

http://www.redstate.com/brian_d/2010/02/28/lying-and-cheating-to-pass-obamacare/

They don’t have to lie about anything. The Democrat Party Line is the following: “When the American People understand what the bill actually is, they will overwhelmingly support it.”

In other words, the Dems are banking everything on the American People rewarding them when they find out about all of the free candy that ObamaCare provides. Paying for it is never a factor to Dems.

I had mentioned in an earlier post that Pelosi was not happy at the last summit because she couldn’t control it, and now it appears she’s controling her own summit today. Politico reports she’ll be on CNN and ABC and using the time to explain how her side has been accomodating. She’ll boohoo about how republicans have “misrepresented” what’s in the hc bill. One of the interviews is taped and apparently teapartiers will be called astroturf, again.

The only thing that makes sense is our side really, really, made them look amateurish during that summit. Our representatives came prepared with facts and they had storytime. She didn’t get the face time she wanted then,so today its all about her. Smile big for the camera Nancy!

The vote on the bill won’t change the outcome of any future elections. The election outcome will be the same whatever way Democrats vote. Even if it did, Republicans will always lack the numbers, passion, and the fortitude to undo whatever damage this bill could do.

The ballot box is not something in which to take any comfort; it is not going to be an adequate means to address this. We’re all going to have to refuse to buy anything called “health insurance” and refuse to pay the penalties.

Kent Conrad was on Face the Nation. He said that the Democrats will only pass budgetary elements of the health care bill through reconciliation. He agrees that it would be wrong to pass the entire bill through reconiliation.

I guess this assumes that the House is going to pass the already passed Senate bill, and then the Senate will just tidy up things through reconciliation.

The liberals are cheating when they claim that Reconciliation is not the Nuclear Option.

Oh gosh, don’t yell at me, but Reconciliation is not the Nuclear Option. Under the generally accepted definition, The Nuclear Option is an as-yet untried parliamentary weapon unleashed to end a filibuster. At some point during a filibuster in the Senate, the majority party calls a point of order and initiates an up-or-down vote on the constitutionality of the filibuster; only a simple majority is needed, ie, 51 votes versus 60. The Nuclear Option has never been launched.

Reconciliation is being used by the left because they can’t pass ObamaCare through the regular order.

Agreed, although I’d modify this to read “because they most likely wouldn’t be able to pass ObamaCare through the regular order.”

They want to rid the Senate of the filibuster and the reconciliation procedure….

I’m sure at this point Senate Dems would like to get rid of the filibuster, but that falls under the Careful What You Wish for Category. The Dems might hold back from eliminating the filibuster rule because they know they’ll be in the minority someday.

Why would the Senate Dems — actually, senators from either party — want to get rid of Reconciliation? Remember — it’s the House that actually funds legislation. Maybe I’m missing something here, but I can’t conceive of US senators eliminating Reconciliation. It just doesn’t make any sense because the Senate can’t actually fund anything.

….the Health Care Nuclear Option, is a means to get what they could not get when they followed the rules.

Please, don’t call it the Health Care Nuclear Option. Most pundits and reporters screw up the term Nuclear Option as it is. Call it the Health Care End Run or Health Care Hail Mary Pass.

Finally, if the House and Senate parliamentarians rule that the tweaking that goes on during Reconciliation of the House and Senate healthcare bills does not violate their respective rules, then the Democrats will have prevailed. It’s not sneaky, it’s not cheating, it’s not illegal, it’s not unconstitutional.

The answer is not to call it cheating and lying but to get more Republicans and more Conservatives elected in 2010!

as bill mayr stated the people are to stupid to know what they want.just do it even if you have to drag them to it.now that is what obama is doing with the aid of pelosi and reid.we better stay mad and in 2010 and2012 and vote out the totalitarians who want nothing but power.

to size. We can get of the EPA, Depts. of Energy, Education, Interior, FCC, FTC, quit giving money to the UN, cut Congressional salaries by 50%, opt out of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, oh and did I mention get rid of the IRS, only strict Constitutional judges, not activist liberal judges. Seems to me going nuclear has its’ advantages.

Obama’s plan is failing because it doesn’t address the problems of the majority of Americans. Rather than reducing the expensive and continuously rising cost of medical care, it has huge costs and rules that make no sense and creates another onerous set of entitlements. This is going to raise the cost of health care and bankrupt the country and Obama’s staff along with Congress are too stupid to realize this–and they don’t care because they will be exempt from it like every other law they pass such as ADA, Sexual Harassment, Discrimination and so on.

All the Obamunist plan does is add more people to the public trough for the rest of us to pay for. It’s an ill-disguised attempt to grab control of another 1/6th of the economy to go along with the stealing of GM from the stockholders as a payoff to the unions who put his unqualified butt in office and the banking industry in order to control who can get credit and loans. It’s game time folks and we need to send these people a mandate in 2010 by voting out all the incumbents!!

And opposition decreasing. I was disappointed with that after the summit.