Crist’s Lead Over Rubio Grows?


From the Tampa Bay dot com.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/crists-edge-over-rubio-appears-to-be-growing/1103719

A new Florida Chamber of Commerce poll suggests Charlie Crist may be widening his lead over Republican Marco

Rubio and Democrat Kendrick Meek in the U.S. Senate race. Where other recent polls showed Crist barely edging out Rubio, the June 9-13 survey of 607 likely voters by the Florida Chamber of Commerce Political Institute and Cherry Communications found 42 percent backing Crist, 31 percent Rubio and 14 percent Meek. The margin of error was plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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While it is a long way from election time (and this poll is much different than other that show the race closer) I have a question. Americans hate typical “politicians” those who will do or say anything to get into or stay in power. OK fine, so why does this election cycles biggest lying, cheating, say anything flip flopper have even 10% support. Disappointing.


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Rubio/Crist

ktsub (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 10:26AM EST (link)

First, if I was Rubio camp, would not be happy about these numbers.

Now, no real campaigning outside the base has taken place. So its natural many Dems are jumping to Crist, but as the partisan divide heats up closer, it would be assumed the Dems would go home to Meek.

If Greene wins the Dem primary, I do not know. From reading the news (for what its worth), Meek campaign is a big ZERO.

Crist flips, will be pointed out in due time.

 

This Race Is Quickly Getting Away From Us - The NRSC Has To Spend Money on It *NOW*

IJB Monday, June 21st at 11:44AM EST (link)

I’m frankly appalled that this race seems to be getting so out of hand so early.

Money must be spent *now* to define Crist before it’s too late. (Rubio has problems of his own, so we need to get out in front of Crist *right now*.)

Now, granted, this is only one poll, that I suspect is coming from a pro-Crist group.

But for Rubio to be that much under 40% is appalling, and is a clear warning sign that this race is getting away from us.

If the NRSC doesn’t start carpet-bombing in ads in FL in the month of July to properly define Crist, I fear it’ll be too late, and we’ll lose this race to guaranteed Obama-backer Crist.

And, frankly, there’s just no excuse for this.

(I’ll make a prediction now – if Crist wins this race, Cornyn will not be heading the NRSC next cycle…)

NRSC

proudgop (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 11:49AM EST (link)

The NRSC never wanted to spend a dime in Florida and its sad they may now may have too. Everything about this race has stunk. The money going to this race should be going to take out Dems

Mario has done a lot damage to himself with it coming out he let one of his houses go to foreclosure

 

42-31 is not "quickly getting away from us"

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 11:53AM EST (link)

Let’s not get hysterical.

It’s not a good poll result but it’s not DOOM.

Keep in mind Crist got a bunch of free press from his “tar ball checks.”

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I happen to concur, the Results are more Crist playing on the idiotcy of Florida voters

Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 12:02PM EST (link)

that hate Oil drilling and the side effects of it. Most politicians there seem to play very hard on it. Personally when the whole incident is over, Crist numbers will go down, back to where the numbers were before this. There’s a reason Kenny calls it Flori-duh and this keeps it going.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 

The Trendline Is Clear

IJB Monday, June 21st at 2:22PM EST (link)

If money is not spent soon to define Crist, I think this race will get away from us.

Waiting until September to run ads is too late – the Rubio campaign and the NRSC must run ads against Crist *NOW*.

 
 
 

The oil disaster gives Crist a fighting chance

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 11:49AM EST (link)

at least temporarily. That said, any polls in a Tampa paper are suspect.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Chamber Of Commerce Poll

proudgop (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 11:57AM EST (link)

The Poll was paid for by Chamber of Commerce ( usually titlt GOP)

Many chamber folks are Crist people (RINO's)

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 12:10PM EST (link)

Remember that Crist came out of the Florida business community.

However, I agree that there is danger if democrats flock to Crist en mass. Rubio has a lock on 33% of the electorate, and has lots of room to go up from there. However, if the dems just fail to run anybody in a serious way, and the RINO’s vote for Chris, we should be concerned.

Has Crist been pinned down yet on whom he would caucus with?

Absolutely agree that in light of the oil disaster, Crist needs to be hit now.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 

Oil spill helps Crist

chihank Monday, June 21st at 12:16PM EST (link)

The Oil Spill allows Crist to appear like a Statesman and blunts Rubio’s clain Crist flip lopping.

The big question is whether the Dems will dump the Dem Senate nominee in favor of Crist. The FL Governor has hired consultants who worked for Chuck Schumer. Could we see Obama and Biden campaign for Crist soon?

 
 

A few factors to keep in mind on the Crist lead

Kyle-MI (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 12:02PM EST (link)

1. It is a poll of registered voters instead of likely voters.

2. Crist has name and reputation recognition. The Florida economy is doing fairly well and as governor Crist gets the credit. Unfortunately for Florida and the US, Crist is likely to shift to the left as a Senator vs his current positions as Gov. It will be very hard to convince swing voters who currently support Crist that he is not to be trusted.

3. Crist has the support of Dems who see Meeks as less and less likely to challenge either Crist or Rubio. Unfortunately as Meeks falls further and further behind more and more Dems will strategically switch to Crist as he becomes the unofficial Dem candidate. Liberals and Dems would rather see a squishy independant if they cannot have their flaming liberal.

The key for Rubio is the swing vote as explained in point 2. He has to work a strategy to out Crist as a flip flopper. Rubio has got to highlight detailed issues. Crist will continue to run as a vaguely anti-establishment but he will avoid taking any controversial stands.

Meeks

proudgop (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 12:28PM EST (link)

I doubt Meeks is even the Dem nominee I bet billionaire running gets nod

 

"Florida economy is doing well"???!!

cwilson (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 12:33PM EST (link)

What the @#!@$ are you smoking? We’re at 11.7% unemployment — and that’s after two months of “improvement”, and includes the “census bump”.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

I live near Detroit

Kyle-MI (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 12:48PM EST (link)

Anywhere else looks better from here. It is not as if Florida is having the same budget problems as CA or NJ.

Also in their last poll Rasmussen has 60% of FL likely voters approving of the job Crist is doing.

Ditto. Our economy in 2007 was worse than Florida's is now.

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 1:15PM EST (link)

Detroit—ground zero for the bomb that is liberalism.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

I didn't say FL was worse than Detroit...

cwilson (Diary) Tuesday, June 22nd at 8:52AM EST (link)

I was pointing out that we’re just NOW getting to be a mere 2 percentage points WORSE than the national average. (Sure, Michigan is 4 or 5 points worse, which sux — but it’s no picnic here, either).

No jobs, and ground zero for the mortgage implosion — which means even those of us who played it smart on home values are still hurting: the market is so depressed you can’t sell except at prices below 2000 (or earlier than that, if you adjust for dollar inflation). And 2000 was *years* before the unsustainable price bubble. (Yes, yes, I know: who’d want to buy any real estate in Detroit these days?)

60% of registered voters don’t pay attention to politics until after Labor Day. And right now, all those folks see is Crist looking all Governor-ish, what with the oil-spill photo-ops…

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

They are paying attention to the economy

Kyle-MI (Diary) Tuesday, June 22nd at 3:05PM EST (link)

I know you did not make that comparison, but I don’t think things in FL are as bad as you think they are. Or, at least, not everybody in FL is seeing the situation the same as you.

You do not get 60% job approval as GOVERNOR if the state economy is completely in the tank. Sure people are not paying attention to the election, but they know their own finances and how the neighborhood is doing. If things are lousy the governor is one of the most high profile people to get the blame. Gramholm of MI and Schwarzenegger of CA are not sitting around with 60% approval ratings.

By the way Crist had fairly good job approval ratings as governor even before the photo-ops. He was at 57% on May 17 and 62% May 4.

 
 
 
 
 
 

This will be a tight race the whole way..

neum432 (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 2:22PM EST (link)

Crist knew he had a chance to win this thing. That is why hit went Independant. Crist has the good fortune of being the Governor of Florida right now. He can use that position to create a positive news cycle. Rubio needs to be more than “the more conservative choice”. He needs to give the voters a reason to vote for him and not Crist.

Rubio needs to trash Crist relentlessly for the next few months. Continue to align Crist with Obama’s unpopular policies. Don’t let Crit get away with portraying himself as the “Independant problem solver”. Crist is a liberal, plain and simple.

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This should not be a surprise.

Menlo (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 4:25PM EST (link)

Even Rasmussen has consistently had Crist at 60 percent approval among likely voters.

Add that to the fact that Florida’s Republicans are less conservative than most and Democrats know their candidate has no chance, and I suspect Crist’s numbers will only go up.

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Yep

Ed54 (Diary) Monday, June 21st at 4:51PM EST (link)

I live in FL. It is very apparent here that many Dems are moving towards Crist. They know Meek cannot win, so many will vote strategically for the lesser threat.

Florida is one of the most closely divided States electorally. Remember hanging chads? Going for the “true conservative” candidate was a high risk strategy. If it fails we are going to have Crist rubbing our nose in it for the next 6 years.

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Crist will do more than that...

cabanon Tuesday, June 22nd at 1:01AM EST (link)

I suspect he’ll announce sometime in October that he’ll caucus with the dems and it will bring in any on-the-fence dems to his side.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

I don't think he will

Kyle-MI (Diary) Tuesday, June 22nd at 2:52PM EST (link)

If he does that he may pick up some Dems but he would loose some Republicans. He is still splitting the Democratic vote with Meek.

Crist has a coalition of two main groups, Dems who don’t think Meek can win and swing voters who are mesmerized by his talk of bi- and post-partisanship. Crist is playing the swing voters like a violin. He is using all the right buzzwords and phrases they like. If he goes partisan and announces with whom he will caucus, he looses some of his appeal.