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		<title>By: frog83</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-779</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those that have lost the definition of Conservatism had better get it back. Michael Steel is not a conservative. He is a high priced pandering whore that happened to be black and available. War is an extension of politics and if we keep coming to the game with a knife while the &quot;Demoncrats&quot; are brandishing .50 Cals and claymores then we deserve to loose. We best get the lead out or our heads or it&#039;s going to end up in our ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that have lost the definition of Conservatism had better get it back. Michael Steel is not a conservative. He is a high priced pandering whore that happened to be black and available. War is an extension of politics and if we keep coming to the game with a knife while the &#8220;Demoncrats&#8221; are brandishing .50 Cals and claymores then we deserve to loose. We best get the lead out or our heads or it&#8217;s going to end up in our ass!</p>
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		<title>By: politisite</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>politisite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They are a definable group…they are equal to…or to the left of Teddy Kennedy on Social issues, They are moderately liberal in Fiscal issues and ambivalent on the military and national security issues&quot;

I have pointed out that I am not in favor of Rhinos.  In fact the criticism was about calling anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with your brand of conservatism a Rhino.  One might wish to read how many versions of Conservatives we have had over the years.

You come up with a definitive definition and then add to your list folks who don&#039;t meet your own criteria.  

I am as discussed as anyone about our three Senators who voted for the Stimulus.  I finally won back some respect for my senator Graham and he blows it again in less then a week on talking about nationalizing the banking system.  I have been one of his critics for years.  

Now that Mr. Steele is our chairman.  Lets do what WE can to help develop a winning strategy for a win in 2010.  Now if you want to have everyone agree completely with you stand on every issue, prepare for another loss.  

Like I said, If we major in the minors we will lose more in the house and senate.  Do we really want a Filibuster proof Senate? 

I have heard about my way as a loser.  Anyone who has done any statistical research in demographics know that we need more then just a Defensive, Social, Fiscal conservative group  to win an election.   You have to have a message that has wider appeal.  Educate your new voters and help them along.  But don&#039;t negate folks because they are not educated as well as you in politics.

I enjoy Red State, but my message has often been shot down because of a spelling error.  Is that the platform you want to use to pull in potential new Republicans?  Folks who use tose tactics don&#039;t hurt me, they disgust me.  

One word about the, &quot;Hurt Police&quot;  I didn&#039;t post to have us all sing Kumbaya and push away discourse that may be difficult.  I posted because I simply said defend your candidate rather then attack another.  Was anyone awake the last election.  You can scream Ayers, Corruption, etc. at the top of your lungs all you want, but if you don&#039;t have a positive message and a plan to show the electorate why conservatism is the best way for America, you lose.

Thankfully we have a New Deal, Great society, socialist president Who will make our job easier.  If we continue with the finger pointing and not spread the word.This guy could win again.  You want that?  

Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They are a definable group…they are equal to…or to the left of Teddy Kennedy on Social issues, They are moderately liberal in Fiscal issues and ambivalent on the military and national security issues&#8221;</p>
<p>I have pointed out that I am not in favor of Rhinos.  In fact the criticism was about calling anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with your brand of conservatism a Rhino.  One might wish to read how many versions of Conservatives we have had over the years.</p>
<p>You come up with a definitive definition and then add to your list folks who don&#8217;t meet your own criteria.  </p>
<p>I am as discussed as anyone about our three Senators who voted for the Stimulus.  I finally won back some respect for my senator Graham and he blows it again in less then a week on talking about nationalizing the banking system.  I have been one of his critics for years.  </p>
<p>Now that Mr. Steele is our chairman.  Lets do what WE can to help develop a winning strategy for a win in 2010.  Now if you want to have everyone agree completely with you stand on every issue, prepare for another loss.  </p>
<p>Like I said, If we major in the minors we will lose more in the house and senate.  Do we really want a Filibuster proof Senate? </p>
<p>I have heard about my way as a loser.  Anyone who has done any statistical research in demographics know that we need more then just a Defensive, Social, Fiscal conservative group  to win an election.   You have to have a message that has wider appeal.  Educate your new voters and help them along.  But don&#8217;t negate folks because they are not educated as well as you in politics.</p>
<p>I enjoy Red State, but my message has often been shot down because of a spelling error.  Is that the platform you want to use to pull in potential new Republicans?  Folks who use tose tactics don&#8217;t hurt me, they disgust me.  </p>
<p>One word about the, &#8220;Hurt Police&#8221;  I didn&#8217;t post to have us all sing Kumbaya and push away discourse that may be difficult.  I posted because I simply said defend your candidate rather then attack another.  Was anyone awake the last election.  You can scream Ayers, Corruption, etc. at the top of your lungs all you want, but if you don&#8217;t have a positive message and a plan to show the electorate why conservatism is the best way for America, you lose.</p>
<p>Thankfully we have a New Deal, Great society, socialist president Who will make our job easier.  If we continue with the finger pointing and not spread the word.This guy could win again.  You want that?  </p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toomey only had to do better than the D to win.  That was a competely nonsensical comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toomey only had to do better than the D to win.  That was a competely nonsensical comment.</p>
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		<title>By: baseketball</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>baseketball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So let&#039;s run Giuliani and Pataki in NY...let&#039;s not let them run the whole party!!!&quot;

That&#039;s what I said.  That&#039;s what I&#039;ve been advocating.  But some people (and I thought you) were saying that we shouldn&#039;t even run them in NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So let&#8217;s run Giuliani and Pataki in NY&#8230;let&#8217;s not let them run the whole party!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I said.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been advocating.  But some people (and I thought you) were saying that we shouldn&#8217;t even run them in NY.</p>
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		<title>By: baseketball</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>baseketball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently there are two GOPAC&#039;s, one is a 527 and one is a PAC.

The details are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/05/the-tale-of-two-gopacs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  

Not that this correction makes a huge difference in the overall decision as to whether or not o support Steele, which for the record I do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently there are two GOPAC&#8217;s, one is a 527 and one is a PAC.</p>
<p>The details are <a href="http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/05/the-tale-of-two-gopacs/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  </p>
<p>Not that this correction makes a huge difference in the overall decision as to whether or not o support Steele, which for the record I do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;During the 2008 cycle, GOPAC gave 11 candidates seeking U.S. House seats nearly $20,000.&quot;

All you need to see here is the number $20k.  That&#039;s a ridiculously unimpressive number from a PAC.  You want to go from that to running the RNC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;During the 2008 cycle, GOPAC gave 11 candidates seeking U.S. House seats nearly $20,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>All you need to see here is the number $20k.  That&#8217;s a ridiculously unimpressive number from a PAC.  You want to go from that to running the RNC?</p>
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		<title>By: baseketball</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>baseketball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So…how did things work out for Shays?&quot;

In Connecticut in 2008 there was a Presidential election and 5 congressional races.  Here are the results:

D+23
D+45
D+32
D+57
D+3
D+20

Geez, guess which one was Chris Shays.  In a Democratic wave year, in an overwhelmingly liberal state, he lost by...3 points.

&quot;and you’re actually arguing here that the rest of the party should export the NE Campaign Model to the rest of the party?&quot;

NO!  Have you been even reading what I&#039;ve been writing?!  I DON&#039;T want to export the NE model to anywhere that isn&#039;t as overwhelmingly liberal as the NE.  But I DO want an RNC Chairman who understands that we need a different strategy in the NE than we need in, say, Florida or Texas.  

Steele has been criticized for his association with moderate Republicans, but I think that coming from Maryland, he understands when and where we need to run moderates or liberals, and that&#039;s one of the things that will help us retake the majority.  Sorry if that wasn&#039;t clear before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So…how did things work out for Shays?&#8221;</p>
<p>In Connecticut in 2008 there was a Presidential election and 5 congressional races.  Here are the results:</p>
<p>D+23<br />
D+45<br />
D+32<br />
D+57<br />
D+3<br />
D+20</p>
<p>Geez, guess which one was Chris Shays.  In a Democratic wave year, in an overwhelmingly liberal state, he lost by&#8230;3 points.</p>
<p>&#8220;and you’re actually arguing here that the rest of the party should export the NE Campaign Model to the rest of the party?&#8221;</p>
<p>NO!  Have you been even reading what I&#8217;ve been writing?!  I DON&#8217;T want to export the NE model to anywhere that isn&#8217;t as overwhelmingly liberal as the NE.  But I DO want an RNC Chairman who understands that we need a different strategy in the NE than we need in, say, Florida or Texas.  </p>
<p>Steele has been criticized for his association with moderate Republicans, but I think that coming from Maryland, he understands when and where we need to run moderates or liberals, and that&#8217;s one of the things that will help us retake the majority.  Sorry if that wasn&#8217;t clear before.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be like pulling eye teeth with the sitting officeholders.  They love the glory of the bipartisan bill, gets you on the Beltway A list or whatever the equivalent is in a state capital.  And, they love hiding in omnibus bills and sticking subject matter bills in appropriations bills.  They can trade votes and vote for the most outrageous things and say they concluded that whatever was in there for their district caused them to suck it up and accept the bad stuff to get the good stuff.

Of course it can be gamed with two paragraph bill titles, but there are limits and if you have a single subject rule or better statute, you can have a whole bill thrown out by a court if they get too cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be like pulling eye teeth with the sitting officeholders.  They love the glory of the bipartisan bill, gets you on the Beltway A list or whatever the equivalent is in a state capital.  And, they love hiding in omnibus bills and sticking subject matter bills in appropriations bills.  They can trade votes and vote for the most outrageous things and say they concluded that whatever was in there for their district caused them to suck it up and accept the bad stuff to get the good stuff.</p>
<p>Of course it can be gamed with two paragraph bill titles, but there are limits and if you have a single subject rule or better statute, you can have a whole bill thrown out by a court if they get too cute.</p>
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		<title>By: 1SGinTN</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>1SGinTN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because now is the time to air our differences within the party and get our thinking straight.  It all boils down to this:  do we want to stand for Conservative principles and lead the country; or, do we want to find a collection of interest groups and jump out in front of them?

It has been well said that we should care not a whit what the MSM thinks of us, there will be no love from that quarter no matter what.  

It&#039;s time to man-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because now is the time to air our differences within the party and get our thinking straight.  It all boils down to this:  do we want to stand for Conservative principles and lead the country; or, do we want to find a collection of interest groups and jump out in front of them?</p>
<p>It has been well said that we should care not a whit what the MSM thinks of us, there will be no love from that quarter no matter what.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to man-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had your dancing Rock Man I would place it here.  I could not have argued my beliefs about stopping running to the middle any better than you have, It should be obvious that it is a very losing place to be.  Not only did McCain not get the moderates and independents that he campaigned for, he completely alienated the base and smiled while doing it.  I believe I read somewhere that 4 million Republicans stayed home this year because of him.  Yeah he won NH, but I&#039;m  convinced that he accomplished that by cross voting.  I don&#039;t like Ron Paul, but it has been proven that votes he got were not counted.  Also, I will never buy that anyone other than a Democrat will ever win in NY and NJ.  For one, they have too many state employees, why ever would they vote for a candidate that wants smaller government.  As far as PA, they have been a right to work state, but Big Labor will be changing that in 2009, they will never leave the Democrats for that reason alone.  Also, when Murtha called his constitutents racist rednecks, and they still reelected him- well he was proved correct, they must be rednecks.

I was very impressed by Ken Blackwell yesterday in the debate.  Many had some great answers, but his best answers were superior to any others.

Hang in there Ace, and keep up the good fight!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had your dancing Rock Man I would place it here.  I could not have argued my beliefs about stopping running to the middle any better than you have, It should be obvious that it is a very losing place to be.  Not only did McCain not get the moderates and independents that he campaigned for, he completely alienated the base and smiled while doing it.  I believe I read somewhere that 4 million Republicans stayed home this year because of him.  Yeah he won NH, but I&#8217;m  convinced that he accomplished that by cross voting.  I don&#8217;t like Ron Paul, but it has been proven that votes he got were not counted.  Also, I will never buy that anyone other than a Democrat will ever win in NY and NJ.  For one, they have too many state employees, why ever would they vote for a candidate that wants smaller government.  As far as PA, they have been a right to work state, but Big Labor will be changing that in 2009, they will never leave the Democrats for that reason alone.  Also, when Murtha called his constitutents racist rednecks, and they still reelected him- well he was proved correct, they must be rednecks.</p>
<p>I was very impressed by Ken Blackwell yesterday in the debate.  Many had some great answers, but his best answers were superior to any others.</p>
<p>Hang in there Ace, and keep up the good fight!</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but I would thing an agreement of broad principles and objectives should be possible without compromising a candidates ability to represent his constituents...

I don&#039;t remember thew wording of the Texas Plank but I&#039;m sure it left wiggle room on specific issues and definitely didn&#039;t deserve the squeals of stuck pigs that arose from the preposition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but I would thing an agreement of broad principles and objectives should be possible without compromising a candidates ability to represent his constituents&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember thew wording of the Texas Plank but I&#8217;m sure it left wiggle room on specific issues and definitely didn&#8217;t deserve the squeals of stuck pigs that arose from the preposition!</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your experience pay dividends here...I wouldn&#039;t have thought of putting it that way out of ignorance...but that&#039;s cuts to the heart of the issue precisely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your experience pay dividends here&#8230;I wouldn&#8217;t have thought of putting it that way out of ignorance&#8230;but that&#8217;s cuts to the heart of the issue precisely!</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>including the Congress.  The necessary predicate if we ever get in the majority again is new rules on bill subjects so you don&#039;t wind up with stuff all over the ideological spectrum in one bill, but until then:

A Party rule that if you run or serve with an R behind your name, you WILL vote with the Republican leadership on ALL procedural matters.  You can cut them loose to reflect their district on the substantive vote, but if they join the Ds on any procedural vote, they are subject to Party discipline up to and including removal from the caucuse and refusal to endorse their candidacy as a Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>including the Congress.  The necessary predicate if we ever get in the majority again is new rules on bill subjects so you don&#8217;t wind up with stuff all over the ideological spectrum in one bill, but until then:</p>
<p>A Party rule that if you run or serve with an R behind your name, you WILL vote with the Republican leadership on ALL procedural matters.  You can cut them loose to reflect their district on the substantive vote, but if they join the Ds on any procedural vote, they are subject to Party discipline up to and including removal from the caucuse and refusal to endorse their candidacy as a Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it yourself...the MSM bias is horrible...and Republicans aren&#039;t going to get a fair shake anywya...so why are we worried about pandering to the MSM anyway...We need to concentrate on what&#039;s right IMHO and to hell with the MSM! They&#039;re fast losing credibility and ability to influence anyone at this point anyway.

We need to tend to our business and clean out the barn and let the press do what they&#039;re going to do and not worry about it. Pandering to the Wa Po and the NY Times is what got us in the pile of do do you&#039;re talking about!

&lt;blockquote&gt;With regards to RNC Chairmanship…. I love to hear Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich taking that seat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m with you whole heartedly there...though Gingrich has made some moves lately that are beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it yourself&#8230;the MSM bias is horrible&#8230;and Republicans aren&#8217;t going to get a fair shake anywya&#8230;so why are we worried about pandering to the MSM anyway&#8230;We need to concentrate on what&#8217;s right IMHO and to hell with the MSM! They&#8217;re fast losing credibility and ability to influence anyone at this point anyway.</p>
<p>We need to tend to our business and clean out the barn and let the press do what they&#8217;re going to do and not worry about it. Pandering to the Wa Po and the NY Times is what got us in the pile of do do you&#8217;re talking about!</p>
<blockquote><p>With regards to RNC Chairmanship…. I love to hear Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich taking that seat.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m with you whole heartedly there&#8230;though Gingrich has made some moves lately that are beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To set up moderates to have to lie and pretend to support something they don&#039;t. If they take a pledge, they should live up to it, no matter what kind of district they represent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To set up moderates to have to lie and pretend to support something they don&#8217;t. If they take a pledge, they should live up to it, no matter what kind of district they represent.</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderates are useful in legislative bodies. Take a guy like Arnold for example. The guy is a horrible, horrible governor. Indistinguishable from a Democrat in almost every way at this point. He wouldn&#039;t be bad in the Senate, though. He would certainly be a huge improvement over Boxer. 

(Of course given how much the base hates the guy now, It doesn&#039;t seem very likely that will happen. He should have run for the Senate in the first place, before he started to burn bridges.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderates are useful in legislative bodies. Take a guy like Arnold for example. The guy is a horrible, horrible governor. Indistinguishable from a Democrat in almost every way at this point. He wouldn&#8217;t be bad in the Senate, though. He would certainly be a huge improvement over Boxer. </p>
<p>(Of course given how much the base hates the guy now, It doesn&#8217;t seem very likely that will happen. He should have run for the Senate in the first place, before he started to burn bridges.)</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s the problem with your idea of getting all the candidates to sign a pledge that they will support the party’s platform at all times: Susan Collins can support the party platform at all times and lose, or she can continue to win, aid us in our count to 51 (and beyond), and vote with us 60 or so percent of the time. I know which one I’d rather have, but you don’t seem to agree with me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If the candidate wasn&#039;t running in a conservative district...he/she wouldn&#039;t have to live up to the pledge...where the platform is concerned since their constituency would return them to office despite the party...the point of doing that was to return the Platform to the position of prominence and respect that it deserves.

I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve participated in conventions at all...but the main focus of the convention process is working on the platform...at least for the majority of Delegates...it&#039;s the only voice we have in the party....the platform is a statement of principles and should be respected at least...right now it&#039;s not...our leadership go to the conversions...make a show of participating in the process...and walk awy thumbing their noses at us and taking a dump on the platform we all worked so hard to shape!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That’s the problem with your idea of getting all the candidates to sign a pledge that they will support the party’s platform at all times: Susan Collins can support the party platform at all times and lose, or she can continue to win, aid us in our count to 51 (and beyond), and vote with us 60 or so percent of the time. I know which one I’d rather have, but you don’t seem to agree with me.</p></blockquote>
<p>If the candidate wasn&#8217;t running in a conservative district&#8230;he/she wouldn&#8217;t have to live up to the pledge&#8230;where the platform is concerned since their constituency would return them to office despite the party&#8230;the point of doing that was to return the Platform to the position of prominence and respect that it deserves.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve participated in conventions at all&#8230;but the main focus of the convention process is working on the platform&#8230;at least for the majority of Delegates&#8230;it&#8217;s the only voice we have in the party&#8230;.the platform is a statement of principles and should be respected at least&#8230;right now it&#8217;s not&#8230;our leadership go to the conversions&#8230;make a show of participating in the process&#8230;and walk awy thumbing their noses at us and taking a dump on the platform we all worked so hard to shape!</p>
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		<title>By: AceInTX</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>AceInTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s my issue....no one I know has ever said we need to run down the line conservatives in every state...though I don&#039;t think the results would be as bad as they were in 06 and 08...certainly they wouldn&#039;t have done any worse....but by letting them run the party and vote in 300 billion dollar farm bills and 700 billion dollar bank bailouts.,..or trillion dollar bailouts of the auto industry kind of makes it hard for us to persuade people that we are the Party of limited government!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s my issue&#8230;.no one I know has ever said we need to run down the line conservatives in every state&#8230;though I don&#8217;t think the results would be as bad as they were in 06 and 08&#8230;certainly they wouldn&#8217;t have done any worse&#8230;.but by letting them run the party and vote in 300 billion dollar farm bills and 700 billion dollar bank bailouts.,..or trillion dollar bailouts of the auto industry kind of makes it hard for us to persuade people that we are the Party of limited government!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2009/01/04/the-case-against-michael-steele/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes the simple answer escapes us even though it is right in front of our nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the simple answer escapes us even though it is right in front of our nose.</p>
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