The Eagles And The Vultures

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History ended yesterday. Or at least one version of it. Or perhaps it didn't end as much as it was overthrown, trampled by the feet of 30,000 ordinary Americans who gathered on the mall and along the broad avenues in Washington to confront those who have, either wittingly or witlessly, given aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States for more than 40 years.

The rancid ideology that has swaggered across the American landscape since Viet Nam (posturing a moral superiority they never proved nor deserved) as ordinary Americans looked on with a growing sense of outrage was quite simply, shown up - bested by an amalgam of military veterans, conservative activists, and just plain folks whose numbers shocked the media, not to mention the anti-everything protestors from the other side.

Read on . . .

I can't come up with anything similar that has occurred in recent American history. During World Wars I and II there were massive rallies for war bonds but that was something else entirely. This was a protest to counter defeatism and the ideology of self-loathing that has had the national stage pretty much to itself for a generation or more. And it showed that while many Americans have no doubt been disheartened and discouraged by what has been happening in Iraq these last 4 years, there is still a considerable number of us who believe it worthwhile to continue the mission in that bloody country until the Iraqis are able to secure their future free from the threat of terrorists and rogue militias.

God, how I wish I could have been there:

As war protesters marched toward Arlington Memorial Bridge en route to the Pentagon yesterday, they were flanked by long lines of military veterans and others who stood in solidarity with U.S. troops and the Bush administration's cause in Iraq. Many booed loudly as the protesters passed, turned their backs to them or yelled, "If you don't like America, get out!"

Several thousand vets, some of whom came by bus from New Jersey, car caravans from California or flights from Seattle or Michigan, lined the route from the bridge and down 23rd Street, waving signs such as "War There Or War Here." Their lines snaked around the corner and down several blocks of Constitution Avenue in what organizers called the largest gathering of pro-administration counter-demonstrators since the war began four years ago.

The vets turned both sides of Constitution into a bitter, charged gantlet for the war protesters. "Jihadists!" some vets screamed. "You're brain-dead!" Others chanted, "Workers World traitors must hang!" -- a reference to the Communist newspaper. Some broke into "The Star-Spangled Banner" as war protesters sought to hand out pamphlets.

Not very elevating dialogue but the point was made. And taking into consideration what was coming from the other side, the pro troops gathering sounded positively rational:

40 years ago there was a march on the Pentagon and here we are 40 years later with a march on the Pentagon and another illegal and immoral war.

I don't want to be marching when I'm 90 years old in 2047 in another illegal and immoral war.

Let's stop this Bullsh*t, now!

Do you know why our countires get into these bullsh*t wars all of the time?
It's for the corporations!

It's for the corporations like Halliburton and Exxon and Blackwater and to make them rich.

It's to line the pockets of George Bush and Dick Cheney and all the war criminals...

That was from Mother Sheehan, Goddess of Peace, Catalyst for the Anti-War Movement, and certifiable loon.

And speaking of the anti-war "movement," the last couple of gatherings they've had have gotten progressively smaller. Is this the best they can do?

Organizers, who had predicted tens of thousands of marchers would demonstrate, gave estimates ranging from 15,000 to 30,000. Police no longer provide official estimates of crowd size but informally put it at 10,000 to 20,000, with a smaller but sizable contingent of counter-protesters.

War protest leaders said a large winter storm that hit the Northeast hurt turnout. More than 60 bus loads of protesters who had been scheduled to come from the region canceled their trips Friday night, according to Brian Becker, national coordinator for the Answer Coalition, the event's main sponsor.

Oh yeah? I guess the weather only stops you if you're not committed enough:

It was quickly apparent that the weather had not prevented counter-demonstrators, many in black leather motorcycle jackets, from showing up in force and surrounding all sides of the Wall.

But demonstrating in favor of war? I think that much too simplistic and I believe those who stood in the cold would agree. Showing support for the troops, their mission (which includes reconstruction and training the Iraqi army and police among other non combat elements), and yes, the war policies of the Administration were the main reasons given for the outpouring.

But even more basic than that was a desire to challenge the moral primacy of the "Blame America First" lobby whose unfettered access to and sympathy from the media these many years has made it seem as if passion and commitment were the sole province of the left and those that believe that America is usually on the side of the angels were condemned to silently endure the lies, the distortions, the outright calumnies emanating from the dirty necked galoots who fill up the streets in protest on a regular basis.

As much as it can be said that anti-war protests give aid and comfort to the enemy, the reverse should be true; that by coming out in such huge numbers, the pro troops demonstration should give heart to the Iraqi people and cause the insurgents a bit of discomfort. At the very least, it should prove to the American people that not everyone has lost hope that a positive outcome can be achieved in Iraq. Perhaps giving heart to the American people will be the lasting benefit of this "Gathering of Eagles."

It's certainly given me some heart. And made me proud to be an American.

UPDATE

Michelle Malkin is all over this story, of course. She was there snapping pictures and getting reaction from the participants.

But this morning, she points to the way the demonstration was portrayed in the New York Times. In short, there's no way around it but to say that the Times lied - and not very well at that:

As they gathered before the march, the protesters met what several veterans of the antiwar movement described as an unusually large contingent of several hundred counterdemonstrators. Many were veterans in biker jackets who said they had come to protect the nearby Vietnam Memorial, citing rumors that had circulated among veterans groups that the demonstrators planned to deface it.

Crossing the bridge toward the Pentagon, the marchers met another group of about 50 counterdemonstrators by the Arlington Cemetery, one holding a sign that said: “Go to hell traitors. You dishonor our dead on hallowed ground.”

I linked above to the WaPo article that also undercounts the demonstration but at least acknowledges "several thousand" not several hundred as the Times reports.

And what about the protestors lining the route of the march to the Pentagon? Thousands of people that the New York Times decided not to count.

Non people at a non event if you're a reader of the New York Times.

And this from John Lilyea, proprietor of the whimsically named This Ain't Hell:

In my opinion, this Gathering of Eagles rally has done more for the healing of the wounds these veterans have been burdened with for forty years than any wall or memorial could ever. It was if they’d finally been given the opportunity to face their oppressors. There were no sorrowful stares, no sympathetic words. It was all smiles and laughter.

All of those years of anger that had been bottled up was directed against their common enemy - moral and intellectual laziness. The world had to listen to them, the citizens who had sacrificed and paid the price and came home to the disapproval of the citizens who had never spent an uncomfortable moment in their lives.

One veteran told me, “We’re here because those guys who are fighting in Iraq deserve better than what we got when we came home. No one stood up for us, but by God, we’re standing up for them. And if we don’t, who will?”

Welcome home, brothers.

I think their story here is inspiring, mostly because being anti war is as much about hating something as standing for something.

These men who gathered were standing up for something, and they did so with pride.

And considering the evil Nor'easter that hit the East coast, many of them did risk life and limb to arrive.

I hope so. I hope this "Gathering of Eagles" isn't a one time occurrence, but the start of a movement that shines a positive light on the pro-military side of this ideological fight. It's not enough to complain or even prove the media's liberal bias, if we on the Right do not provide the media something else to cover.
I would also like to see GoE events that are not in response to a liberal, socialist rally, but held on its own to honor the soldiers and their families, and their dedication to liberty and to the U.S.A.
We on the Right, myself included, have to fill the vacuum of the liberal noise machine. This means more rallies, more gatherings, more visibility and numbers, large numbers. Let's make it impossible for the MSM to ignore us.
Ricahrd

That's a sign? by Robert A. Hahn
    The marchers met another group of about 50 counterdemonstrators by the Arlington Cemetery, one holding a sign that said: “Go to hell traitors. You dishonor our dead on hallowed ground.”

The Times lies. It took six of us to hold that banner and keep it from blowing over in the very strong winds. I'm the guy on the left in the green hat. I'm 6'3". Do the geometry.

Drink Good Coffee. You can sleep when you're dead.

and a very well worded message. Thanks to each of you for protecting those who can no longer protect themselves.

It should come as no surprise that the MSM lies.

"I'm kind of old-fashioned. I like to engage my brain before my mouth." Donald Rumsfeld

I still think by seattle-ite

that a more lasting message would have been sent, if the proto- & neo-hippies on the anti-war side, had encountered a wall of .50 caliber intent. The first returning soldier from SE Asia who got spit on, should have forcibly removed that protestor's teeth, in a gruesomely public fashion. Rick is spot on, in his assertion that many in the 'anti-war movement' have never, and would never, get off their lazy keisters, except to denigrate those who make them free.
It's good to see that the left got intimidated, for a change. It's about time that the whiners saw the passion and commitment of our side.

I still think that a more lasting message would have been sent, if the proto- & neo-hippies on the anti-war side, had encountered a wall of .50 caliber intent.

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Sorry I'm missing the intent here. Exactly what are you suggesting?

If ya have to ask... nt by mbecker908

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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.
J. Michael Waller

[Go away.] by ajl_mo2b

[You have been banned. - Moe Lane]

...they are to stay banned. At any rate, in your haste to show back up again and defecate on our floors you have not noticed that the author has since walkbacked from that comment - and that we've noted that it isn't to be replicated.

Now shoo. You have your little link with which to show to all your friends and whine about how eeeevilllll we are, so use it and get out of our hair.

Moe

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

[Go away.] by ajl_mo2b

[You have been banned.]

I think by pagar

it was anti American protesters.

"American" protesters? by Jack Savage

You use that word so loosely...

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A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are made for.

but, I'm constantly amazed by self proclaimed 'pacifists', who are deluded enough to bully a bunch of 'trained killing machines'. Talk about Darwin award candidates.

I note this not to beat you up with it - you've already walked yourself back - but just to let the newbies know that we don't really groove to this sort of thing here.

Besides, the aforementioned pacifists are quite aware that their rhetoric is junk; if it wasn't, they wouldn't dare say 'boo' to a soldier. :)

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

I do apologize. by seattle-ite

It's just hard to understand what drives some people who think they can desecrate a monument to our war dead. Gets me to steamin'. Thanks for the gentle smack-down; I'll take a breath before my next angry post.

I think all of us feel your frustration. I think RedState strongly holds the moral high ground on Internet rhetoric. It's a struggle at times but given the ridiculous statements from the other side it's all the more important to maintain composure. Although we don't seem to get credit at all for it! Would be nice...

"The pain inflicted by your country's indifference is tenfold that inflicted by your ruthless captors."

Rep Sam Johnson on the House floor commenting on his experience as a Vietnam POW

Someone advocates killing protesters.

Someone else appears to question this but I do not know for sure since they were banned and their post’s edited to remove content.

Meanwhile the original poster claims a rhetorical faux pax and is amazed that pacifists would confront “trained killing machines”, and thanks the site for the “gentle smack-down”.

I guess the answer to the unasked question is no… we can’t all just get along.

No, we can't by Trelaina

and quite honestly, that's THEIR fault and not ours.

We claim the moral high road -- some simply stand there, others walk, others knock everyone out of the way to make sure they are in front carrying the "we're on the moral high road" banner.

While we do all that, those who have chosen other roads design large baseball bats with which they knock us senseless on a regular basis. They do this because they know our response...we will simply get rid of that person, then push someone else out there to be knocked senseless.

It's about time we considered a change of plans...a new set of rules.

When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail. -- Abraham Maslow

In chronological order.

1). Someone makes a questionable comment.
2). He - on his own dime - walks back on it.
3). I show up, note that he has done so, then note that we don't like that sort of thing here.

With me so far? Good.

4). A previously banned person shows up with a new log-in and tries to start up trouble.
5). I reban him, then note that we've already handled the problem.
6). He comes back again and reposts.
7). I notice this, do the Next Step to get rid of the troll and remove his commentary (which I probably should have done in Step 5).
8) You show up and start complaining.

But now that the actual state of affairs has been explained to you, you will of course see that your version of what happened is at error, and you will take steps to indicate this, yes?

Moe

The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.

For the record by seattle-ite

I wasn't advocating killing anyone. But, after 35 years of horrible treatment by the left, it occurs to me that protesters who would deface a national monument, would hopefully have second thoughts, if faced with a group of determined vets with baseball bats. Why can the left call anyone anything, or suggest the most awful treatment for the people who protect us all, but my frustrated outburst causes such hysteria?
And, that Moe and all have graciously allowed me to attempt amends shows that this site does have more moral clarity than most.
The main point remains; the anti-war movement now, and in Vietnam era, is dangerously naive.

thought you might like to know. Perhaps the 'nuance' escaped you.

Irony=angry peacefreaks by strange__guy

That claim free speech rights while condemning others rights to speech.

This whole counter event was very well done.

Well done is better than well said. —Benjamin Franklin

Not so ironic, after all by seattle-ite

Of course, I deserved the hollerin' at. Our side is just supposed to sit quietly, twiddling our thumbs, at the insulting rhetoric and antics of the lefties. How dare I criticize the protesters, who are only disrespecting everything the fallen stood for? Why do I question the patriotism of someone who would burn a flag? It couldn't be that I find those acts mortally insulting, after all. Where was my head at?

My beef isn't really with folks who truly have an honest disagreement with the President and his war policies; those are valid targets. Where I start to lose my cool, is when the argument devolves into disrespecting the fallen, and purposefully mistreating those who choose to serve. As in Vietnam, we are (as predicted) starting to see the spitters, feces flingers and burners-in-effigy crawl from their holes. Have your beef with the Administration and policies all you want; stand outside the White House and Pentagon with a placard, until the cows come home. I couldn't care less. Burn a flag in front of me, or spit on a soldier returning from combat, we'll have a BIG problem.


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