To Hussein or not to Hussein...
By mbecker908 Posted in 2008 — Comments (129) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
All this flap about Sen Obama's middle name is about to cost us the election. The people who seem to insist on using his middle name are, frankly, stupid and totally ignorant of three decades of political history.
The basic fact is very simple and easy to demonstrate: When conservatives & Republicans stick to issues that effect national security and constitutional governance, we win. When we get sidetracked by anthing else - whether we're right or not - we lose.
Cases in point:
1. Ronald Reagan never let himself be distracted from the issue of winning the Cold War and utterly defeating Communism. The Dems worked to smear him, he ignored them and won.
2. 1994 Revolution. Can you say Ontract With America. Newt got the Party singing the same song from the same hymnal and we won big.
3. By 1996 we'd forgotten the lesson about staying on issues and we tried to bring down Clinton over an affair in the Oval Office. He absolutely cleaned our clock.
4. In 2000 & 2004 GWB stayed pretty much on message and won two elections.
5. In 2006 we forgot we had issues and got blown out.
Bottom line, you Husseiniacs keep up the current level of idiocy over his name and you can expect to hear Chief Justice Roberts saying "Do you Barrack Hussein Obama..." because he will win and win big. Get over your infantile and utterly stupid fascination with his damn name and focus on issues and we'll clean his clock and might even pick up seats in Congress.
Wise up people, right now you are stuck on stupid.
It's not the people jabbing the left by using his full name in articles about why BHO is bad that are getting distracted from the issues. It's people like you who are more interested in arguing about this than the issues who are making the mistake.
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You said,
"It's people like you who are more interested in arguing about this than the issues who are making the mistake."
How do you know he's more interested in this than the issues? That's an incriminating assumption ... if you read his article, you'd know he claims the polar opposite. You like to impute people with your imagined intimations, and combat them from that ground. Would you blame the referee for stepping in a fight he attempts to break-up?
Meil and Becker go way back. You're new here, and violating the first rule of Netiquette: Thou shall not post on matters ye do not understand.
And then you attack a moderator over it.
I'm amazed that you've lasted this long.
It would have been more than sufficient for you to say, "I think that's what he said, Neil." Actually, your silence would have been sufficient.
But it wasn't what he said that was the problem, it was the fact that he said it at all.
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"using his middle name are, frankly, stupid"
From the author of: "To Hussien or not to Hussien.."
Perhaps you meant Hussein?
If I use his full name in an on-point article about how the man is a sham who's lived a charmed political life, and is just another Chicago con man ready to be blasted to bits in the general election, what's the harm in that?
I get to make the Obamanauts squeal about something superficial WHILE I'm hitting the man on the issues that count.
Isn't that productive *and* fun?
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Drinking out all night is fun too, but you can't bitch and moan when you wake up with a hangover (you can, but no one will pay much attention). The consensus seems to be that the "fun" you want will help Obama win, so as long as you're good with that result come November 5, go for it.
And, you're wrong that you're tweaking anyone. If anything, you're giving Obama all the cover he needs for having a thin resume. You should probably his campaign send an invoice.
If I use his full name in an on-point article...
I get to make the Obamanauts squeal about something superficial WHILE I'm hitting the man on the issues that count.
When was the last time you seriously weighed the substantive points in an article that also appealed to anti-Semitism? When did you take seriously an article by a guy who wasn't actually anti-Semitic himself, but throws in an irrelevant point about somebody's Jewish sounding name just to provoke people to "squeal about something superficial"?
Americans typically write off people who appeal to prejudice as kooks, not worth wasting our time listening too. If your "on-point article" makes an appeal to prejudice against Obama's middle name (or pretends to in your "clever" tactic), the prejudice becomes the focus distracting from anything of substance that might be in the article.
Isn't that productive *and* fun?
I'll take your word that it's fun for you. It's not productive, if by productive you mean improving the chances of defeating Obama . If anything, appeals to prejudice (or endorsing such prejudice) are more likely to influence people to vote for Obama.
The natural reaction among many is to stuff it to the purveyors of prejudice by voting for Obama. While the Husseinophiles' rhetoric wouldn't persuade me to vote for Obama given all the reasons I oppose him, the backlash votes for Obama in reaction to his opponents' appeals to prejudice actually are a rational response for swing voters, and represent a healthy aspect of American culture.
If there's some election where I don't know anything about the candidates for say parking commissioner, then for me the "expected benefit" of electing either is absolutely equal. I have no incentive to vote for either.
If however I see Candidate A's supporters are intent on reminding people Candidate B has a Jewish sounding middle name, then my "expected benefit" of electing Candidate B exceeds that of electing Candidate A. My expected benefit from the performance in office is still the same; but the benefit of stuffing it to the anti-Semites (or those who embrace anti-Semitic rhetoric for fun) by electing "Candidate Goldberg B" breaks the tie.
The same logic applies to people undecided between Obama and McCain. For voters who perceive the same amount of "expected benefit" from either Obama or McCain as President, many will rationally vote Obama for the benefit of punishing those who appeal to prejudice.
If I wrote a three-thousand word essay on the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis and explained the differences in the cultures and in the cultures of the ruling parties and talked about the differences in the concept of the afterlife in this group and in that group and in the differences in the belief regaring God from this group and compared it to that group and so on and so forth and I published it with the name "Yids picking up pennies... is it true?"
Well, everyone would FREAK OUT at the title. "Dude! I can't believe you'd be so anti-semitic!", they'd say. "Do we really want anti-semites on this website?", they'd ask. "Citizen's Blam!", they'd exclaim.
And when I'd say something to the effect of "Did you read my essay? Are you paying attention to the subtle nuances I'm distinguishing? Why are you calling me a racist?", they'd mock me.
And rightly so.
And yet... when someone uses a dog whistle and is called on it... they say "This is a dog whistle? No it's not! I have every right to say this thing!"
And, once again, instead of discussing issues of substance... we're stuck discussing the nature of dog whistles.
Man, this stuff is frustrating.
All that to say: Mbecker, I agree with you on approximately diddly squat. But I am in 100% agreement with you on this. I apologize for that being useful for a latte if you happen to also have $3.25 on you. But, dude, you have hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. And you too, gensec. "5", as the kids say.
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The issue is not about wanting to use his middle name. The issue is that Hussein IS the man's middle name, yet they are trying to claim false mileage by making it a "race" issue. This presages the campaign, because if the Dems are going to play the race card everytime they are losing if you let them get away with it.
It's the man's name. He hasn't changed it or repudiated it. It's just a name, and there's nothing wrong with using it.
Quite a few comments about this issue on my previous Red State entry here.
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I'm basically going to restate a point I made in another of these diaries - sure, in theory you're right: it's just a name, there's nothing wrong with that, why should he/his supporters be upset about anyone using it.
But I don't actually believe you're naive enough not to realise that many of the people using it are making a very deliberate point (along the lines of "Obama is Muslim/foreign/similar to Saddam"). And while we can scoff at that such an attack, there are voters on whom such sentiments may well have an effect.
Who here at RS do you believe is doing that for that reason?
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There are plenty of people in the media - talk radio hosts,for example - who are using it for precisely that reason. When anyone else uses his middle name for no apparent reason, they risk getting lumped in with those who *are* using it for improper purpose.
These is a presumption, like it or not, that using his middle name is virtually always done for an improper purpose, and it hurts our cause by distracting our ability to attack Obama on the points that really matter - his inexperience, his poor judgment, his rehashing of failed policies of the past - and turns off the swing vote we so desperately need to keep this empty suit from winning the White House. It HURTS us far more than it HELPS us, so why do it if you really care about who wins in November and not just ratings or web traffic?
I voted early in the Florida primary. Find out who and why.
Hussein is no more exotic or suggestive of African or muslim heritage than is Hussein. Moreover, we were allies with a King Hussein that married an American white woman for decades.
The issue has become one of free speech and the msm's manipulation of us. We can't keep letting them force a PC dictionary on us.
It's March, not October, so Becker's rantings about staying on message is not ripe.
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I would just like to point out that anyone who takes offense at this phrasing is probably a member of the set of "all of the right people" who get offended by mention of the middle name in the first place.
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agree, it is metaphysical certitude, and that the thread should be closed.
If not, I'm going to continue to bludgeon mbecker into seeking out Arizona Cardinals football for relief...a place more appropriate for his name calling obcession.
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Sure, some people might use it excessively. But so what? It's his name, like it or not. Michelle Obama should grow up. Chris Muir's comic yesterday:
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On an earlier post I (somewhat facetiously) listed four occasions where using Obama's middle name was clearly proper. Oath of office was number 3. (You can read the others here.)
Probably the best way to defuse this whole issue will be through humor and ridicule (of the issue) through comics, SNL skits and other similar media channels. I'd be great if Gary Trudeau would poke fun at this matter.
When the nation realizes how basically silly this whole matter is, then it will sink below the waves. However, the paradigm shift will have to come from the center and left. If and until then, discretion is the better part of valor, because that will be in our best interest.
I agree with the basis of your argument, mbecker.
But hearing this argument from you, of all people..."Mr. Oscar-Winning Name-Calling Put-down Lead Artist-of-the-Year Hall-of-Fame Professor Emeritus."
Even your post argument resorts to name-calling those who use "Hussein name-calling" tactics.
Your constant castigation of Huckabee caused many of us to dig our heels in even more during the primaries.
From now on it's "MHusseinBecker" to me!!
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my point all along has been that the guy is a totally empty suit and most of those supporting him either are incapable of rational thought or are SIVV and don't give a rip about anything else.
Noting that people "dug their heels in" because others referred to Huck in a less than kind manner simply proves my point.
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mbecker, you are not the person to be lecturing anyone else on their (perceived) counterproductive remarks.
You lost that credibility with your treatment of Huckabee.
I'll say it again: you shouldn't be attacking people who say "Hussein" because they are right on principle. The liberals have made that into a issue because they believe most people in America are stupid and racist--the only kinds of people who would actually vote against Obama because of his middle name.
Apparently, some on this board believe this, too. I don't like that. Instead of attacking people who aren't racist nor are making accusations of racism, we should be pointing out the fact that the liberals are implicitly calling some unknown group of Americans racist and stupid, and using that against them.
Ask the Democrats "Exactly which populations in America do you believe are so racist and stupid that would change their vote because of Obama's middle name?"
Of course, we can't exactly do that if we join with the liberals in their racist fear-mongering.
So fine. I won't use Obama's middle name in public, not because I think there's any validity to liberal smears of America, but because I think you're right that it can become a distraction.
That said, you are the idiot for failing to see the opportunity to point out liberal prejudices against America, and for thinking you had any standing whatsoever criticizing people for unproductive comments.
Are you afraid to talk about his ears?
He's a dumbo!!! DUMBO DUMBO DUMBO!!! LOOK AT HIS EARS!!!!!
No, I'm not going to talk about taxes. No, I'm not going to talk about judges. No, I'm not going to talk about national security. No, I'm not going to talk about the 2nd Amendment. No, I'm not going to talk about Immigration. No, I'm not going to talk about trade. No, I'm not going to talk about abortion. No, I'm not going to talk about gay marriage. No, I'm not going to talk about the drug war. No, I'm not going to talk about spending.
I am instead going to talk about how I have every right to use his middle name when I talk about him and question whether you're a racist for implying that racist people might be using his name for reasons other than reasons that people called Bush "dumbya". Why would anyone except a racist think "Hussein" is bad? You think "Hussein" is bad? Why do you think it's bad? Do you have a problem with Middle Eastern names?
Besides, talking about policy is hard.
Hey! Obama has big ears!
Why are you afraid to mention his big ears, MBecker? Do you have some big ears of your own, maybe? Does pointing out how he looks like an Escalade with open doors from the back cut a little too close to the bone?
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contradicts your own recent column. Becker made some good points, I guess, for October, not now. I say I guess because I always get distracted by his writings due to his name-calling, and the fact that he seems to get a pass on it, given the level and frequency of same than anyone else.
Many times when I see people blammed, I think
wonder why becker is still here.
Becker reminds me of that crocety old man Dana Carvey played on SNL, except with more namecalling
except with Becker, I can't say "and they loved it!"
an ocassional "Jane you're an ignornat slut" is funny
Beck is long past that.
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There. "I" feel better now.
The whole point, which everybody down to here has missed, is that the Ds are the Party of victimhood. Keep this crap up with his name and come October any criticism of his policies will be - successfully - painted as attacks by racist Rs.
We have soooooooo many really clean issues to beat the jerk to death with, yet we're all wound up in an exercise of mental masturbation over his name.
Now his ears, OTOH...
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to fight on more than one front, that we can walk and chew at the same time, and that the american public can too and is with us on the pc police.
msm front - fight the pc police
michelle's husband - issues
congress - both
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with that old SNL - back when it was worth watching - line. God, I used to have the hots for Jane Curtain. Some of the Fox News blonde hotties kinda remind me of her. Half the people on this board weren't born then!
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For their choice in women. Its like criticizing a compass for pointing north.
But of the original cast Larraine Newman any day.
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we've had some good times together.
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is that what they are calling it these days?
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And I hear the second is out, as well.
Besides the cast, that was the time when SNL was irreverent, rocking-the-boat. It was innovation, whereas since, it's been a prepackaged, formulaic, bit of redundancy which tends to consciously swing way left.
Then again, I haven't watched it in years, so what do I know about what they're doing anymore.
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in the last years they were at home. I saw enough to make me find somehting to do in another room; waaaay too MTV.
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But if he hears his full name mentioned, he falls on the ground in a fetal position.
Didn't "The Holy Grail" have a scene about something like this?
Is BHO so delicate that he cannot lead if someone uses his friggin' name?
What a pompous twit.
That's why he wants to crawl and beg Raul Castro and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for forgiveness, and apologizes to Canada for his rhetoric.
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We're talking about Barack Hussein Obama's middle name in this one.
And his ears.
Which, may I point out, are big.
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Or is that the First?
Anyway, you might never get to use that comment as any given thread about Obama tends to become one that discusses the right of people to use his middle name and questions about why, oh why, might someone be offended about using his middle name and assurances that no one here is doing *THAT* rather than discussing... Well, anything at all, really.
At least we're establishing our Right to use his middle name.
And point out his ears, of course.
His ears are so big, he heard the sun come up.
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about middle name, someplease comply.
Meanwhile, be on the lookout for people that name all not named "mbecker", poised with the blam machine.
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but the man is self-conscious of his dumbo ears, feels very insecure about the fact that his ears flap in a high breeze -- in fact he wears weighted shoes anytime he is out in a high wind, just in case -- and so it is taboo to talk about those honking big wind socks attached to either side of his head.
just saying...
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I *AM*, however, against dog-whistles... inadvertent as they may be.
I *AM*, however, against the whole "I have no idea why anyone might be offended by my usage of his middle name!" plausible deniability game.
Yes, I know. No one on Redstate is using "Hussein" as a slur. I am surprised that people are feining surprise that there might be people out there who see it, his middle name, as a reason in itself to vote against him.
If you're just playing the "lol, the guy has a funny name" game, isn't "Barack Obama" funny enough for you? Can't you work enough "HERE I AM!!! BARACK YOU LIKE A HURRICANE!" or "Llama llama llama Obama! Hammer hammer hammer Obamer!" jokes?
I know that no one on this site intends the whole "Hey! He has a seriously Middle Eastern Middle Name!" thing as a slur. This site has been very, very good at kicking out even the appearance of such folks with their refusal to entertain Ronulans. Due to, among other things, Ron Paul's Newsletters.
However... it absolutely *BAFFLES* me that the whole "Hussein" thing is defended to the point that it is when it is a joke that would *EASILY* fit in Ron Paul's newsletters.
I am baffled.
No, I'm not saying that the use of his middle name is necessarily race-baiting.
No, I'm not even saying that the use of his middle name is playing the "Hey, did you know? He's got a MIDDLE-EASTERN MIDDLE NAME!!!! OOOOOOOOOOH!!! SCARY NOISE!!!!" game.
I am saying that the whole "Why would someone be offended by the use of his middle name?" game is one that insults my intelligence. I don't mind being dissembled to by people. Hey. It's politics. You overlook faults on your own side and magnify the faults on the other side. Sometimes this involves dissembling. It's all good. I don't care about that. I *DO*, however, hate it when people disassemble in such a way that implies that they think that you are stupid.
The "Why would anyone be offended by the use of his middle name?" game assumes that I am stupid. That irritates me.
"But the right people are all getting whacked out of shape by the use of his middle name!"
Yeah, and some of the wrong people are getting whacked out of shape by it too.
You want to *REALLY* whack the right people out of shape? Make fun of his lies to Canada. Make fun of his inexperience. Make fun of how he's never seen a real fight from the Right. Make fun of his ham-handed inability to say something that isn't nothing at all.
Because, whether it's intended or not, "Hussein" is a dog-whistle.
And people can pretend that, oh, it's not... but, really, it is. And you can use a dog-whistle without intending it as one. You can use it without even *KNOWING* it's a dog-whistle.
But that doesn't change the fact that it is a dog-whistle.
And I wish that people wouldn't defend their right to use dog-whistles as the innocent phrases they are, of course!, intending them to be.
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I was talking about his windsocks attached to his head -- not his middle name. I was going with YOUR flow and making fun of the roadside billboards that are his ears.
sorry I didn't make it clear enough...
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When God was handing out ears, Obama thought he said "beers" and said "GIMME TWO BIG ONES!!!"
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are speaking of a disability to carry out the oath
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If you do, please let me know. Mine are just normal size... :>
Or, so I've heard. I was raised in a household where only women got their ears pierced, and only once on each ear.
Otherwise you'd be "communicating".
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Then it would be and we'd still be having this conversation.
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without first names we wouldn't be able to differentiate Clintons
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tell us what caused the recent affection for mccainfeingoldism other than mbecker mindless "stupids, idiots and fools" dicta.
smile
wag tail
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/lord_vegas/2008/feb/27/the_president_forme...
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I mean, "Woof!"
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No, it doesn't. If his first name was Hussain, people would call him by his first name when people would call him by his first name just like people always do.
That's totally different from dragging out a middle name for no apparent reason other then it's the same name as Iraq's former dictator. There is absolutely no good reason to do this other then to A. Make stupid jokes about Saddam, or B. Imply that he's a closet Muslim.
What part of "It's not nice to call names," didn't your mother teach you? (If you are going to yet again complain "But it's his name!" I suggest you watch the 1969 film "In the Heat of the Night," to see why that is irrelevant.)
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shared names as well.
No one gave GW any problems over that that I am aware of.
And I am pretty certain GW did not give a fig about it.
I disagree completely with BHO on many topics. I will discuss and vote against him on those terms.
But I completely reserve the right of anyone to use his name if they care to, and I find it very telling that BHO, via Michelle O, seems to think it is at all important that people not use his full name. If he is this petty going in, and this thin skinned, he is not nearly as comfortable in himself as his worshipers- er supporters- seem to think.
Frankly his full name scans pretty well.
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none of which are usually one's actual name.
Becker could ruin a wet dream.
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when he says "Barack" or "Obama", names no less exotic than "Hussein"? Will be then be allowed only to refer to him as "Michelle's husband", "Vessel of Hope and Change", or simply "Savior"?
Gamecock, instructed by His Mbeckerness to turn and grab ankles awaiting further instructions from pc police.
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There's nothing we can say that will make the loony fringe less loony, guys.
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and they will always call us racist, bigots and homophobes. We look like weenies when we submit. That makes us look weak to the public.
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Yes, they will always call us racist, bigots, or homophobes. But not everyone will believe them unless we prove them right.
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They'll SAY it does, but heck, they'll say it does even if we don't say it. They're dirty, disgusting liars, the far left and their buddies in the press. Remember their whole campaign on "Bushitler is going to draft you?"
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"If we want to take this party back, and I think we can someday, let’s get to work." – Barry Goldwater
So if they call you racist for opposing affirmative action, will you cave in and support affirmative action?
Or will you articulate what's wrong with their racist fear-mongering?
We have a choice people. My problem is just that the "reasonable" people like mbecker and civil truth--while I agree with what they're saying--are simply staying on the defensive instead of simply pointing out racist fear-mongering of the liberals.
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When they call us names over matters of substance and policy, we win elections.
Name calling does nothing but push away the middle because they, in most cases, rightly assume you have no issues or policies to discuss.
That's why this Hussein crap is so counter productive. We're ignoring his foreign affairs statements that make even Huck sound good. His comments on aQ & Iraq are not being attacked. His blather on economics is ignored. All so we can howl about how PC the world has become over his silly middle name.
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Though the use of moniker on a particularly odious characteristic is another matter. Shrillary by example
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will be ignored, unless you choose to ignore them. This will all die down soon, unless you do another in your face blog on it calling everyone else an idiot. The question is will we all walk around paranoid that we may violate an msm pc rule, rules that reduce speech to the spech that libs win with.
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word "idiot". Said that those folks who are obsessed with his middle name were "stupid", and I stand by that.
McCain was exactly right in his comments to the bozo who introduced him. We should be smart enough to understand that if he's the nominee the mrdia will be over the top looking for every possible petty snipe to dstract from the fact that BO is an empty suit. He either has no logical positions on issues or they are disasters. We need to treat him like he was a white guy who's middle name was Joseph. Guess what, we wouldn't be having this silly discussion.
This is NOT a matter of PC, it's a matter of winning. Keep up this stupidity with his name up and he'll have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and more House members than he knows what to do with.
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stupid. What do you "have" on the editors here?
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You didn't use the word "idiot"; you only said "idiocy." Our mistake.
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but if you and others want to be so cavalier with the Republican brand (per the Rove link above), don't blame the MSM when the next state of the union address is delivered by President Barack Hussein Obama.
let's be extra careful and go with
Michelle's husband
play the song Eleanor Rigby and hope that no Beatle fan takes offense
ma bell
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If you speak of the the majority of elected Republicans I can find 1/3 I wouldn't want to be associated with the brand....this Hussein crap and people who yell boo when you say it has got to stop....OMG you people have become the left with their brand of pcism...I guarantee you their is so much more to bicker about that is so much more serious than this bs...Barack Hussein Obama is a leftist of the first order, I will talk about his Marxist background and his name in the same sentence anytime I feel like it and I will not be made to feel like a "racist" for it.
This is that same bullcrap argument that was thrown at the "base" of the Republican "brand" during illegal immigration...STOP IT!!
His middle name is HIS middle name and if you or anyone else want's to think it is racist's to say it...I would suggest a visit with your therapist.
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I think that's what is meant by "brand".
When people think of Republicans, they think...
Pro-Life
Pro-Defense
Lower Taxes
Right? We agree that they think this, right?
Well, there are some people out there who may associate "racism" with "Republican". Now, this is not me saying "Republicans are Racists!" This is me acknowledging that there is an association out there.
Let's make a comparison. The vast majority of Democrats I know in my personal life are relatives. Foremost of which was my Grandfather. He worked for FDR in some of those camps they had (he ate meat three times a day because of it). When WWII started, he signed up and was deployed to the Philippines where he fought for our country. He held Truman in high regard. He never, ever, voted Republican. He helped form the Union in Michigan that allowed for workers to not only have one week of paid vacation a year, but an extra week of unpaid vacation so they could go back down to Kentucky and help with their families. He told me "You Do Three Things, son... you buy American, you buy Union, and you vote Democrat."
So please understand that background before I get into the comparison...
When you think of "Democrats", you may think "they don't support the troops, spit on veterans".
Now, I don't think that this is necessarily a true or a fair association... but I do not hesitate, for a *SECOND*, to acknowledge that the association exists.
It's a problem that the Democrats have with their brand. Whether or not it's robustly-based in reality... the perception is there. Imagine if some Democratic leader actually stood up and said "McCain isn't eligible to be president, but the child whose pregant and undocumented mother jumped the fence the day before giving birth *IS* eligible." This would be another piece of evidence for the whole "Democrats don't support the troops" association with the Democratic Brand.
Well, back to the original point.
The Republican Brand exists. There are associations when one thinks "Republican".
Republicans pointing out "Hussein" strengthens an unpleasant association for many eligible voters (that, I'll grant, the Republican Brand does not deserve).
It's an unforced error.
But I'd wager that you knew this before reading my essay, were I a betting man.
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire
but if "some" want to think Republican well have at it!
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It can be used negatively, & we can only imagine if instead of Sidney McCain's middle name was Stalin what the dems & left would do.
That said, I don't think it's fruitful to get into a big snit about whether to use it or not. By now, most everyone knows what his middle name is, & that's not going to win or lose the election. I may be a little of a pollyanna here, however I believe that the issues are what is important & Obama's side of issues can be a loser for him - if that's where the focus is.
I like how Rush is now handling this situation - referring to each candidate by 3 names. That, my friends, is fair. If the Obama campaign doesn't want it used, there should be an official release - if not, people & pundits CAN use it, though I would not.
deal with this fact. Imo, leave it alone. Leave that to the comedians. It's below our dignity as a party to take potshots at an ethnic name. Remember how the Dems lampooned GHWB, oddly mocking the primly WASP connotations of the name to make him look like an out-of-touch Daddy Warbucks? "Poor George Bush... he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth" crowed Ann Richards. Who is dead. Beaten by his son. Who became president. It is unwise to tempt fate.
Hussein is a common name in those parts of the world touched by Arab/Muslim culture. Our country has been lighty touched, but touched. We should treat all cultures with respect. (And Hussein was also the name of one of our most friendly Arab monarchs- King Hussein of Jordan.) The need to respect would also apply to an Hispanic presidential candidate named Jesus, a common name in the Latin countries.
However, given Obama's increasing tendency to project himself as the Second Coming, if perhance som
"...words like 'neighbor' and 'weigh'".
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.