Comments on: It’s the family, stupid-CDC finds abortion the leading killer of African-Americans

By: From ME to You

From ME to You — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:27:12 +0000

The slow destruction of the family in America has caused the majority, if not all, of our social ills across the board regardless of race.

Black, white, yellow, red or whatever, there is nothing that can stabilize a society better than a stable family unit.

By: marshmom

marshmom — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:14:07 +0000

Growing up in the South, blacks here are praised for having children, no matter what their financial or social situation. There are many who try to get pregnant in high school and don’t think it’s a big deal at all–mainly because they know they can get assistance from the fed gov’t and that there will be someone available (aunt, grandmother, mother, etc.) to take care of their children. If they have to drop out of school, that’s fine with them too.
I’ve never known any black girl to have an abortion because the ones I know are always TRYING to get pregnant. The ironic thing is…….they are also very “socially conservative” when it comes to things like gay marriage, etc, but having babies out of wedlock is a-okay. As long as they know that there will be a paycheck for each baby, they will keep having them.
I wholeheartedly agree with what Achance said about it being an issue of “enslavement of the soul”. What has caused them to be repressed, the democratic party has convinced them has “freed” them, or vindicated them in some way.
I don’t believe in the murder of babies in any color, race, or creed, so the story is a sad one and the even sadder thing is that the “poor”, whether white, black, hispanic, etc. are being lied to, manipulated, repressed, and coerced by the democrats but they’ve been made to believe these things are all associated with the GOP, so they are almost always very strictly anti-Republican.

BlackConservative, great diary and I totally agree that the breakdown of the fabric of the family in this country is the main contributor of most of our country’s problems.

By: azred

azred — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:40:57 +0000

However, the emphasis on the black community should not hide the broader picture. Based on census data extrapolated from 2000 female population and projected with a constant demographic growth rate to a total est pop of 300M, 1 out of every 184 white females age 14-50 will have an abortion every year. 1 out of every 51 black females age 14-50 will have an abortion every year. Yes, the black abortion rate is 3.5 times higher. But is the comparison to genocide accurate for only black communities, or is really economically depressed (and dependent) communities, which are certainly higher proportionately black? Being a numbers guy, I like to see what the underlying stats show. IMHO, this really indicates a primary and secondary finding. Primary, which you have pointed out in the black community, is the destruction of the family. But the destruction of the family is not an exclusive black problem. It is a general societal problem. What just saddens me is the the numbers of 1 out of every 130 combined has an abortion every year!!! And that’s the reported numbers! I’m sure drilling down more, the metro city areas will be beyond ugly.

By: toni100

toni100 — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:36:23 +0000

BC-I posted a story about the black abortion stats and btw added a link to your post here and on your blog. A commenter left this link. I went to check it out, the documentary seems inflammatory and still (from what I saw) excludes the black community from any responsibility. It’s all victimology.

To get the full picture of Black Genocide watch a new film called: Maafa21 – short clip here: http://www.maafa21.com

Have you seen it or are you familiar with it? Read the comments.

By: jayburd

jayburd — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:56:28 +0000

Especially when no white statistics are included in the article for context. I read that Russian women have far more abortions. As long as the State takes care of you in a moral vacuum you will probably feel like you can’t afford another kid. People have abortions for economic reasons, period.

By: Steph C

Steph C — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:54:21 +0000

how she got what she did from my comment and then I read yours.

That’s the problem in a nutshell. Thank you.

By: Achance

Achance — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:44:00 +0000

The young black in the doughnut city has no more vision of any other kind of life than did the young black in the slave quarters a century and a half ago. He or she has no more vision of escaping that life than did the slave in the quarter seeing only dogs and whips should he or she try to escape.

I saw the same lack of vision in Alaska’s rural villages when I worked with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The Native village in rural Alaska is just as doomed as the 12 mile towns and clan communities of the rural South, but the death of the village is made longer and more painful by the villages’ being kept on the life support of State and federal aid. There’s no economy, no jobs, and no future, but people don’t have a vision of living any other way or any other place. Not suprisingly, alcohol and drug abuse and suicide are rampant.

And finally, I grew up with that same lack of vision in the rural South with my parents and many of their peers. My parents and their peers were stuck somewhere in the late ’40s, early ’50s, were comfortable there, and they weren’t about to change a thing. I watched the World simply pass them by and doom them to an ever diminishing life style and relevance and respect in the community. It caused a terrible relationship between me and my parents by high school. I wanted nothing to do with keeping up the place, working in the store, going to their church, participating in all the reunions and other family rituals. By that time the primary ritual was going to funerals. To this day, death and dying seem to be the only growth industry in my little town. As soon as I got out of high school, I ran like Hell as did most of my peers, but the old folks just sat there doing the same old stuff, thinking the same old thoughts, and as the result of that mindset and the loss of all the youth, the town just spiraled down into insignificance even as those around it prospered relatively. Simply lack of vision or as my Dad once said to me as we argued about his continuing to try to duke it out with his small store agains WalMart and his wanting me to help him financially, he said of the life he was living when he could be retired, “I’m satisfied.”

It appears to me that these people whose souls are enslaved are satisfied because they simply don’t know how to live any other way.

By: mbecker908

mbecker908 — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:42:48 +0000

You give this putz a pass on his support of Marxism because he’s a pro-life (sort of) Marxist.

Will Obamacare fail in the House? Not likely. They’ll pass something. And then they’ll modify it to get to where the far left wants it.

If you think this guy and his fellow “Blue Dogs” are your friends you can prepare to have you leg pissed on.

By: Richard Mullins

Richard Mullins — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:33:13 +0000

so being PC on this isn’t going to help. The agree with Us mentality is quite the same as slavery except that they are not property. Gone are the days of Fredrick Douglass and others that prided themselves for not being withholden to the government. It’s no secret that those area run by the New Slave holding class, have high unemployment and more crime. We need to be color blind society but we can’t PC on the way to that.

By: mom2oneson

mom2oneson — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:10:52 +0000

By: mom2oneson

mom2oneson — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:10:01 +0000

Because it’s a slap in the face to people who are slaves and secondly we are sort of like the other side not seeing people with choices. Much harder or more difficult than someone else in different circumstances does not mean no choice. I know I’ve gone ’round and round on this board about this but people still make decisions and can make good or bad choices no matter their circumstances. Even in bad circumstances some choices will make things harder than necessary. The slave comparison also does not call out character traits that may lead to worse circumstances like laziness or no perserverance.
I get what y’all say that social programs lead to that but I still say people have choices. Getting food stamps or EITC or an apartment does not force people into illigetimacy or robbing stores or not visiting the library.
Iit sometimes has shocked me as I’ve gotten older when I see how easy some people seem to have it financially from their own parents and I sort of see the so called “disadvantage” that is talked about but we need to see people with what resources they have around them. BT Washington wrote about how the families lived on ground that could grow every type of vegetation but they grew cotton up the house walls and bought pork (or something unhealthy) at the store. I see a lot of resources – especially human and educational resources when I lived in the projects. If they are good or bad there are A LOT of tax funded educational resources available like book mobiles, libraries, pell grants, JTPA, TRIO, daycare assistance, food stamps to eat that people can utilitze.

By: Richard Mullins

Richard Mullins — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:25:13 +0000

the slaveholders are Black and Latino. They hold plantation down and but down dissent. When there is someone that opposes them, the Agree with us mentality shut down the opposition.

By: Richard Mullins

Richard Mullins — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:17:57 +0000

it’s more like shut up in the Black community and agree with what we say. It happens a lot in minority communities, so those that don’t tow the line in their minds are not with them. It’s really sad too. Blacks and other are conservatives, but the must agree with us mentality is killing that. Those within the Black community need to help kill the agree with us mentality.

By: Steph C

Steph C — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:03:45 +0000

One of the arguments against abolishing slavery pre-Civil War was very similar: Most slave owners don’t mistreat their slaves. They were adequately cared for, that all slave owners shouldn’t be punished for the actions of a “few”, yada, yada, yada.

How is that argument dissimilar to what Democrats were saying during the Civil Rights Movement or today with their “love and compassion”?

By: pilgrim

pilgrim — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:41:12 +0000

I stand with EPU’s declaration that obamacare will fall in the US House. The only way that is going to happen is if members who have the letter D after their name, like Bart Stupak, vote it down.

To take the position that each individual member of the US House with a D after their name are an enemy that needs to have their hand chopped off is just plain silly and defeatist.

By: BlackConservative

BlackConservative — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:40:41 +0000

By: mom2oneson

mom2oneson — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:47:17 +0000

I definately now see what Achance called the “dependent class” support for democrats though. Some way either with SCHIP and EITC and/or foods stamps or section 8 there are a lot of people not in projects but dependent on gov aid that are for the dems in general and this is with both whties and blacks. I almost fell over when I was tlaking with a friend about Hilary vs McCain and abortion how awful it will be and she said but I think she would do more for us. Of course it is not automatic I’ve never been a dem but I do see the connection. Archer you are SO right too about them not wanting to be near a black family or anything. They don’t even understand the real issues facing people or what help is already avaia;ble but they are making these decisions, so dumb.

By: mom2oneson

mom2oneson — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:39:08 +0000

for a Senate race? I’ve lived there and I never ONCE heard a political discussion even something remotely close to one. The closest came to some campaigner leaving a flyer at my door about a free bbq in a nearby park. I don’t think most would go pack up the kids take the bus. Unless it’s at a church or firehouse within walking distance or something.
I understand this idea but apart from Obama I really wonder how many people living their vote? I’m not the great judge of how politically minded people are sorry if I sound like that. That is one thing about Obama he did that I wish McCain did is he gave people a vision of life under him and assumed the sale or the vote, People were ready to take action after listening to him.
Apart from this recent election If there is support of the democrats it is with the older families that do have a husband, father and are not in projects. It’s the men working 2 jobs to support their families are the ones I hear political conversation from.

By: mom2oneson

mom2oneson — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:19:26 +0000

By: mbecker908

mbecker908 — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:14:50 +0000

He may appear to be “with us” on abortion, but he’s firmly entrenched in the enemy camp and frankly, I don’t give a damn about his position on abortion. He stands and supports the people who have insisted that genocide is a “right”. He’s as guilty as Dr. Tiller. The only reason I would reach across the aisle to take his hand would be to hold it firmly so I could chop it off. He deserves no cover.

Oh, and what will happen will look like this. ~~Stupid~~ Stupak and his buddies will force the majority to take abortion funding from the bill. Then one of two things – or both – will happen. A court will find a reason to require funding for abortion and/or congress will modify the plan in a year or two to include it. It will be part of a budget bill that can’t be filibustered and “must” be signed.

Sorry pilgrim, people like Stupak are the enemy, and even more so than the Pelosis of the world.