More pieces fell into place today regarding the new Administration’s desire to end America’s access to low-cost energy, and replace it with high-cost wind and solar power.
Yesterday, the Senate Finance Committee heard from Treasury Secretary Geithner, who said that it’s the wrong policy choice to “subsidize” oil, gas and coal producers by allowing them to operate as they always have.
Today, Energy Secretary Steven Chu told the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee that using the Yucca Mountain underground repository for storing nuclear waste is no longer an option. In fact, the Administration’s proposed budget eliminates all but token funding for the site.
Senator McCain sharply questioned Chu, who replied smugly that “we have better options” than Yucca Moutain (conveniently located in Senate Majority Leader Reid’s state of Nevada) for storing commercial nuclear waste.
The waste storage problem has long been considered a key barrier to the expansion of nuclear power generation in America, and there are no clear alternatives to the Yucca site. Today, America’s nuclear plants store their waste on-site, above ground.
What Chu and his boss, the President, are saying in veiled language, is that they have no intention of allowing nuclear power to stage a comeback. If these guys get everything they’re looking for, America faces a future of much higher energy costs. On top of the powerful disincentives to business investment and expansion that are also contained in the new budget, the net result will be a severely underperforming economy in the years ahead.
Steve Maley
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This should come as a surprise to no one.
The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 10:30PM EST (link)Well, no one except that idiot David Brooks. Obama doesn’t like oil, natural gas, coal, or nuclear power. He likes solar, wind, and probably pig turds a la Mad Max in Thunderdome (although he probably won’t admit that so as not to offend the Islamists, and we also couldn’t build any of those facilities in Nantucket).
I’ll grant I’m not a particularly big fan of Yucca mountain myself even though I don’t live in the state. By my reckoning, there are no places that are sufficiently geologically stable to store the stuff without needing to be concerned about having to dig it up again to move it. Once upon a time I liked the idea of shooting it into space, but the way NASA’s been loosing rockets lately, that doesn’t seem reasonable either. But I also recognize that there are no better proposals for what to do with it. The truly sane thing to do would either be figure out how to dilute the stuff or re-use it in other nuclear reactors. But the fear mongering over radiation has precluded those possibilities.
Reprocessing
Alone_in_the_Dotte Thursday, March 5th at 11:14PM EST (link)The science of reprocessing “spent” nuclear fuel is well-established. The construction of a reprocessing facility by private enterprise was well underway when it was stopped by the illustrious James Earl Carter. Ronald Reagan tried to get the consortium to restart construction but they declined to invest more of their money in something the Government might again suspend on a whim.
Properly recycled, the waste from a plant the size of Wolf Creek in Kansas would fit the space of about a dozen 4-drawer filing cabinets.
We’re really shooting ourselves in the foot over nuclear power in general; the “high temperature gas cooled reactor” and the “liquid metal fast breeder reactor” in particular.
Thanks Alone -
Praying (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 11:59PM EST (link)I was rushing to make this point, but you have done it better than I could have. As a geologist who formerly worked for Shell, I find this so incredibly disturbing. This pooh-bah about “global warming” is an embarrassment to legitimate scientists (as opposed to Albore) everywhere. Liberals seem unwilling or maybe unable to ever see any view other than their own – even when scientific evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the other opinion. To think that these stubborn pig-headed people in Washington are going full speed ahead with a half cocked idea like this is just… unbelievable. Does anyone realize what it will take to replace our oil, gas, and coal fueled electrical capability with wind and solar energy? Ha! This is laughable! Lets see Obama try to fuel that big black helicopter of his around without oil and gas!!
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
It's NOT feasible
DerKrieger (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:23AM EST (link)A few months back I did the math to calculate how much land a 3.2 GW solar or wind farm would require. I chose 3.2 GW because that is the output of the Palo Verde nuclear power plant outside of Phoenix which sits on a 4000 acre site. The plant itself probably only occupies 200 acres. The rest is a security perimeter.
Anyway GE’s largest wind turbine has a peak output of 2.4 MW. But of course that is when the wind is blowing at the right speed. Anyway I figured it would take several square miles.
You can see my estimate of a solar farm here (33,000 acres):
http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/2008/11/solar-follies.html
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
When you see where Yucca Mountain
Rapunzel46 Friday, March 6th at 12:06AM EST (link)is located, it is far from the Colorado River and it’s in a desolate area out by Area 51. The only real danger is transporting the material to Nevada… that’s it…
Way, way to much concern is given to nuke waste
JoeG Friday, March 6th at 1:49AM EST (link)The dangers of nuclear waste are vastly overstated. Can you name some other type of waste that’s never killed anyone? Yep, not one person has died from nuclear waste.
Nuclear waste decays. It eventually becomes safe. Not so for many other types of waste. Many chemical wastes will stay deadly to the end of the planet.
The whole thing is a canard used by anti-nukes.
But is not "waste"...
Alone_in_the_Dotte Friday, March 6th at 2:24AM EST (link)…It’s used fuel that just happens to have products in it that can be separated and used as fuel again.
It makes no sense to bury unreprocessed “used fuel” for eternity when we could use it for fuel again.
And a couple of breeder reactors could keep us in fuel forever. But we need the reprocessing plant(s) to separate the new fuel produced in the breeder.
Dr. Bernard Cohen penned a couple of very good books on nuclear power…they may be lurking in a dusty corner of your local library. Each has an interesting chapter on risk…relevant since our society is so risk-adverse today in everything.
As I recall, the objection to breeders was the product
Francis Cianfrocca (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 9:22AM EST (link)They make plutonium, which can indeed be used as a reactor fuel but rarely is, because it’s such a powerful chemical poison and because it’s so much easier than uranium to turn into bomb fuel.
Do you agree with that? Were there other reasons why the breeder research programs were shut down back in the sixties?
two points
JoeG Friday, March 6th at 11:34AM EST (link)The chemical dangers of Plutonium are way overstated. It’s about the same as lead.
When Plutonium is left in a reactor for a long time, it becomes enriched in Plutonium 240. Pu 240 creates major problems for bombs but is a non-issue for reactor use.
That’s why the special reactors used for plutonium production for bombs had the ability to refuel online and the fuel residency was measured in weeks. In a power reactor, the fuel stays for years and the Plutonium in the spent fuel is useless for bomb making.
Plutonium...
Alone_in_the_Dotte Friday, March 6th at 11:43AM EST (link)…is the product from a breeder. And it’s the most useful product from reprocessing. That’s what led to Jimmy Carter’s “permanent” ban on reprocessing “used” reactor fuel–which Ronald Reagan lifted–fear that plutonium would “fall into the wrong hands.”
Plutonium, in addition to being radioactive, is highly toxic. But the technology exists to handle it safely, and it has been handled safely for decades.
As far as the policy toward weapons proliferation, the enrichment level required to make bombs is far, far higher than the enrichment of power plant fuel. It is not possible to make a bomb from power plant fuel.
To my knowledge, there was one (commercial) LMFBR built in the U.S. near Detroit. It had issues. Being the first, it had some engineering defects and wasn’t successful. But instead of learning from the mistakes, we shelved the technology. We did the same thing with the “high temperature gas cooled reactor” concept. There was one (Fort St. Vrain), it had a problem (IIRC, the graphite core was left exposed to rain during construction) and never reached its full potential. HTGCR does not require the expensive steel pressure vessel that water reactors use. If we were serious about them, it’s possible to pre-fab all of the concrete components and truck them in.
IMO, what happened to nuclear power in the U.S. is pure ignorance. Horrible science education, coupled with leftie news media hype fomented the negative public perception and doomed the industry. We should be getting 90% of our base-load power from nuclear. It’s proven, the science is done, the engineering is done. We know how to handle it, we know how to transport it.
highly toxic
streiff (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 11:50AM EST (link)…if ingested or if particles are inhaled. In standard rod form, it is about as toxic as your average pencil
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
A little worse
ehosterman (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:21PM EST (link)remember, plutonium is a heavy metal and is an alpha emitter. Not something you’d want to eat or breathe.
alpha emitters
streiff (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 3:11PM EST (link)are all around us http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_particle but fear of the word “plutonium” is just not helpful is discussing nuclear energy
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
It is difficult to asses the risk of something that
The_Gadfly (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 9:54AM EST (link)will maintain lethality for several hundreds of thousands of years.
I agree that most people are overly fearful of it. But a callous disrespect of its potential is as bad. I don’t think anyone can accurately predict the stability of any particular geological site for the length of time required for the materials to be safe as a result of natural decay. Which is why I’d prefer the reprocessing route.
And for the record, as a teenager I was the one telling my mother to ignore my Aunt’s paranoid warning to get out because Three Mile Island was about to melt down. We lived about 35 miles from the plant as the crow flies, and frankly, it wouldn’t really bother me to live right next to it.
And I disagree on the chemicals question. There are no chemicals with the same toxicity level as the nuke waste that needs to be put into Yucca, not even the over-hyped DDT. It’s not a canard, it is a real danger, just like mining for coal is a real danger to the guy running the drilling machine. Responsibly assessing and reacting to the danger is the key.
not hundreds of thousands
JoeG Friday, March 6th at 11:36AM EST (link)In 400 years spent fuel is less radioactive than the uranium that was dug out of the ground.
There are all sorts of nasty things in nature. Why is spent fuel, which is only as dangerous as the natural uranium found all over the world, any more worthy of worry?
We elevate nuclear waste to a special pedestal that its inherent risks don’t demand.
DDT is overhyped
JoeG Friday, March 6th at 11:39AM EST (link)But you demonstrate an ignorance of many of the truly nasty chemicals when you state:
“There are no chemicals with the same toxicity level as the nuke waste that needs to be put into Yucca, not even the over-hyped DDT.”
You got the pare about DDT being over hyped right. But there are thousands of very nasty chemicals we use for our modern lifestyle that are very deadly and remain so for eons.
Obama, Senators and Congressman should be held criminally liable.
bobojake (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 10:48PM EST (link)When we have brown out next summer because we don’t have enough Nuclear Plants producing electricy and people die because they can’t run their air conditioners obama and his political counter part should be held liable for any deaths.
This avoiding building nuclear plants and now wanting to put cap and trade in to hit the coal fired electric plants will only jeapordize elederly people.
In Arizona in the Summer time I would guess the electric bill for air conditioners probably run about $400/ month. With obama cap and trade just double that. How many people can afford $800/month. How many will have to die before obama and the politicans get their heads out of their geisters.
Wind power is not dependable. A Simple question. How many time when it 100 degrees or more do you have wind speed capable of running the windmills.
There is a reason the ranchers was so glad to have dependable electricity to pump water for them and their livestock. How many people have to die before obama, the politicans and the eco-greenies before we start building nuclear power plants.
May God Bless our America and not the on obama wants.
But reducing the population reduces our carbon footprint
civil truth (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:36AM EST (link)And with a massive energy tax and the impact on people’s ability to pay heating/cooling costs, you selectively kill the old, the sick, the very young – which nicely reduces health care costs too. A wonderful win-win…
It’s a solution only a psychopath or the Obama administration (or do I repeat myself) coud love.
/snark
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
http://www.gmsplace.com/
Let's start with the greenies...and see if the problem goes away. nt
Xasteius (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:46AM EST (link)Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
Agree. That's why abortion is consistent with the policy of CC mitigation.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 10:03AM EST (link)In that respect, I think the libs/dems got one thing “consistent” in their long line of inconsistent policies.
When Your Enemy Is Self Destructing, Get Out of the Way
IJB Thursday, March 5th at 10:49PM EST (link)What we are currently witnessing is the Obama Admin. and the Dems seriously self-destructing.
Go, Barry, baby! Go!!
It amazes me that these guy are so self-absorbed and arrogant that they can’t see what a HUGE fall they’re setting themselves up for! Do they really think that they can government-mandate massively higher energy (and food!) costs, and the electorate will just roll over and take it?!
This kind of self-delusion is nothing short of breathtaking!
I’m starting to get into it! These guys are a laugh a minute!
My predictions of their polls tanking by July may be overly pessimistic by 3-6 months!!
Obama may end up being one of the most hated men in American history by Christmas!
And once people despise you that much, they tune you out, and never pay attention to you again. Just ask George Bush.
Obama still favors burning wood, riding donkeys and alchemy
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 10:51PM EST (link)It appears that no oen wants to get on board a sinking ship looking at all the unfilled deputy and other lower level political cabinet dept posts and the surgeon general and many dems (not just blue dogs and southerners) are against the cap and trade etc.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Why won't the electorate take it?
gardenstateeric (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 10:58PM EST (link)They believe what they see on tv and read in the papers. The average person believes that carbon is toxic, that high electric bills are the result of utility gouging and that some oil company exec is standing in the way of $1 gas somehow produced from a solar panel. They have every ability to impose this on the country.
I Understand That You Probably Don't Get How Real People Operate in The Real World...
IJB Thursday, March 5th at 11:09PM EST (link)…But nobody cares about polar bears and cute like pikas when they can’t pay their heating bills, put gas in their car, or even put food on their tables, so their kids go cold and hungry.
The response to those kinds of conditions is to go for the *jugular* of those in charge. And I’m not talking about the utility companies.
Don’t buy the hype – The Media doesn’t have this thing nearly as wired as they think they do (and that want you to believe they do).
If Obama and the Dems try to pull this energy thing off, it’ll end with blood in the streets.
And not ours.
That's Funny
ehosterman (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 11:19PM EST (link)the electorate didn’t have any problem placing the blame on Jimmy carter the last time the democrats decided todestroy our standard of living. If I remember correctly, Carter lost 49 states. At the rate they are going, 2010 could be a Democratic bloodbath.
yeah, but they're taking us down with them, and that makes me angry!
Praying (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:00AM EST (link)No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
This is part of the insanity of Government Programs
USNJIMRET (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 10:53PM EST (link)that take too long to get far enough along to be usable.
Yucca Mountain has been in the works for a heck of a long time, with billions of dollars ‘invested’.
And now, after several President’s and Congresses, the Obama Administration has the power to just turn all that time, money and ‘investment’ to waste?
While offering no solution to what we as a Nation are going to do with the existing waste materials?
Or do we wait for the Nuke Waste Czar to be appointed and the Commission he/she’ll lead to “study” the problem?
More and more this inexperienced President is proving that his answer to everything is to appoint a ‘study’ group.
That’s not leadership, it’s decision avoidance.
Steven Chu Does Not Own a Car
gardenstateeric (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 10:54PM EST (link)That’s his right of course. He might be unsettled to know that I don’t own any clothing made of help. And that’s my right. But these guys are the truest of the true believers. They really do think that we must shift the U.S. to a solar and wind powered nation. They are fanatics.
We have another issue to run on in 2010
smagar (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 11:01PM EST (link)We already had:
1) The importance of protecting the sanctity of the Constitution. (E.g., Dems trying to give DC a voting representative even though the Constitution says you can’t)
2) The importance of the vote (re. ACORN and Card Check)
3) The need to defend capitalism from Obamanomics
Now we can add:
4) A sane national energy program.
All of these comprise a good platform for 2010. A new Contract for America, if you will.
Food for thought…
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
These are also hammers we can beat the Dems with...
smagar (Diary) Thursday, March 5th at 11:02PM EST (link)…again and again and again.
They will resonate with the maority of the American people.
And there’s only so much the Obama Administration can do to stop us, or the MSM to cover for The One
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
Yeah!
aardpig Friday, March 6th at 2:31AM EST (link)Like, what sort of un-patriotic idiot would want to AMEND the constitution…
Er….
“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.
The problem with wind... well one of them, anyway
Eddie S Thursday, March 5th at 11:16PM EST (link)Talking to a windmill producer of several years, the problem with windmill generators is that besides the reliability issue, they can only be used at certain wind speeds, and most types actually consume power when they aren’t generating it in order to maintain functionality. Thing is, unlike a coal, nuclear, hydro, or petro plant you can’t really turn the wind speed up or down to generate more or less power. Electrical demand fluctuates depending on what people have turned on in homes and businesses. So a windmill needs a backup source that can cover when the wind isn’t producing, and scale back when wind is producing too much. So basically, every windmill needs something else that can produce twice as much as the windmill on the grid in order to compensate either positively or negatively.
On the plus side, some researchers in Arizona have managed to produce solar panels for about one dollar per watt. This brings them into the realm of affordable energy generation for the first time in the 60+ years they’ve been around. They still don’t really compare with the capacity of nuclear in any serious fashion, though.
This whole process of making energy less plentiful and more expensive really seems to be exactly opposite of what the Administration keeps saying, doesn’t it?
Cap & Trade
DerKrieger (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:29AM EST (link)I read an article in the WSJ this evening about the CEO of Duke Energy whining that he was duped on Cap & Tax. I wrote a letter to the editor in response advising him to enclose a summary and impact statement of Cap & Tax in the utility bill of every single one of Duke’s customers. The utilities need to understand that their biggest allies in the fight against this massive tax increase are their own customers. Most people are blissfully unaware of the freight train bearing down on them and when it hits them they will want to blame their utility. Duke, et al, need to get out in front of this issue. I’m really tired of corporate America not taking out the big guns and fighting back against government.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
Solar Follies
DerKrieger (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:31AM EST (link)From my blog:
There has been a lot of discussion in the last few years about “alternative” energy, which, in most cases means wind and solar as alternatives to coal, natural gas, and nuclear. The problems with wind and solar are well known to anyone with thirty minutes to spare to do a modicum of research. Unfortunately, far too many Americans are too intellectually lazy to become informed and have outsourced their thinking to radical, agenda driven environmentalists and their enablers in media, academia, and politics. They have substituted saving the earth platitudes for real world analysis of even the basics of our available energy sources.
Below is a simple analysis of solar energy that I hope even the most stubborn and ignorant Liberal can understand. I will follow up this post with one on wind energy.
According to the New American the maximum, which is far more than what is actually recoverable, amount of solar power available per acre in Albuquerque, a region of the country blessed with a lot of sunshine, is 970 kW/acre.
The largest nuclear power plant in the is the Palo Verde plant near Phoenix, AZ.
Although the entire Palo Verde facility occupies 4,000 acres, the reactor buildings, cooling towers, cooling ponds, and support facilities only cover approximately 500 acres. Palo Verde produces 3.2 GW from its three reactors that run 24/7 and only shut down for maintenance and periodic refueling.Now, to get that same 3.2 GW from a solar array operating at 100% efficiency (remember, this is a physical impossibility) the solar plant would require a little less than the same 4,000 acres, ~3,300. This sounds like a great deal but in reality the physical maximum efficiency of modern solar cells only allows a conversion rate of about 10%. The problem of maximizing power from sunlight has been known for at least 30 years, and is primarily one of physical limitations, not engineering technology.” So this 3,300 acres in reality would require 33,000 acres to produce the same 3.2 GW as a nuclear power plant. That also assumes the entire 33,000 acres is covered by solar arrays, which, again is impossible. There needs to be spacing for panel movement, personnel and vehicle traffic, and support facilities. So lets conservatively say that to generate 3.2 GW during the peak sunshine hours would require 35,000 acres. That’s a lot of acreage for a plant that would only be able to produce electricity for 8-10 hours on a good sunny summer day. What then to do at night when the sun isn’t shining or in the winter months where the available hours falls significantly? What are the options for areas of the country that don’t have the available number of sunny days Albuquerque has? What options are available for the vast majority of the country that doesn’t have land for solar farms? What are the environmental impacts to wildlife and plant species of tens of thousands of acres being hidden from the sun under vast arrays of solar panels? Due to the area required, the inefficiency, and limited availability of solar energy, solar energy can never be more than a supplement to more traditional and reliable sources of energy.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
The ironic situation at my school
Xasteius (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 12:32AM EST (link)is that the head of my nuclear engineering is a loyal Democrat. I am willing to bet anything that this will not change his mind.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
The IBEW union employees are in the same boat
JoeG Friday, March 6th at 1:56AM EST (link)Many nuclear plant workers are represented by the IBEW.
The IBEW wants the trades employees to be loyal democrats, but those same employees know that the dems want to end their line of work.
Critics of Nuclear Power's Costs Miss the Point
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 1:03AM EST (link)Doesn’t Obama do any research. For this effort he gets an F.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/EnergyandEnvironment/wm1961.cfm
Carbon-capping legislation and recent studies[1] that conclude that a massive build-up of nuclear power is needed to minimize the negative economic impact of CO2 caps have spurred several high-profile articles on the costs of nuclear energy.[2] One such article notes that estimated construction costs for nuclear power plants and the overall costs of nuclear power have increased significantly since 2000 and espouses wind power, solar power, and energy efficiency as alternatives to new nuclear plants……
……To argue that nuclear power is not viable based on cost alone while ignoring the many problems, including costs, that are associated with wind, solar, and efficiency measures is to present an inaccurate picture.
Wind and Solar Have Problems Too
Wind and solar power do have a role in America’s energy mix, but those technologies alone are not ready or able to power the United States. Despite efforts to portray these sources as viable alternatives to nuclear power, they have their own problems. They are expensive, intermittent, and inappropriate for broad swaths of the United States. For example, wind turbines are virtually useless in the Southeast, where there is little wind. Even environmental activists are beginning to oppose wind projects because they kill birds, despoil landscapes, and ruin scenic views.
First, wind is intermittent, producing electricity only about a third of the time. Second, the life expectancy of windmills is projected to be 20 years.[5] Nuclear power plants produce power for up to 80 years. This must be taken into account when considering costs.
The intermittent nature of wind and solar energy is important to the overall economics of energy and how these renewable sources relate to nuclear power. Given the low cost needed to operate a nuclear plant, lifetime costs are very low once the plant has been constructed.[8] It is therefore difficult to conclude that wind or solar power should be built at all…….
The Market Should Decide
Government has no business making any decisions about nuclear power based on costs. Its role should be to provide adequate oversight and fulfill its legal obligations on nuclear waste. It is primarily private companies that produce America’s power,[12] and consumers pay for it. Their interactions in the marketplace should determine the best way to meet America’s energy needs……
Conclusion
Nuclear power must be expanded if CO2 caps are to work. Despite claims of high costs, nuclear power is competitive with renewable energy sources when all costs are factored in. The time has come to acknowledge the critical role that nuclear power will play in the United States.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
The irony of "progressivism"
Menlo (Diary) Friday, March 6th at 1:40AM EST (link)The “progressives” want to send us back to the days before we had heating and air conditioning, before there were cars, before there were light bulbs, and before there were flush toilets or bath tissue. Better yet, they’ll go back to the days with no electricity. Their “science” is in about the same era when it can’t acknowledge the beginning of human life observable since the mid-1800s.
Yet somehow it is conservatives who are living in the past.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter