Bond Market Confusion


Global stock markets are soft across the board as we swing into the first trading day of February. At first glance, this appears to be responsive to the constant drumbeat of terrible economic news, as economies and trade shrink in unison.

The action in the bond markets appears to be somewhat healthier. For several weeks, the theme underneath the surface noise in corporate debt markets has been gradual stabilization. Things are far from normal, but they’re inching along in the right direction. Spreads between corporate debt and government debt have been compressing, and the tone shows that risk tolerance is making a comeback in some sectors.

Here, and in the slightly-improving tenor of the short-term capital markets, you can see the positive impact of the Treasury and the Fed’s heroic stabilization efforts, including the much-maligned TARP.

The government debt market is where the real action is. The yield curve has been neurotically steepening and flattening as participants weigh the broadly offsetting influences on prices for governments: the steadily worsening economic news tends to support prices, and the gargantuan amounts of new issuance push the other way.

I think the friction and noise being generated as markets absorb new supply is the surface phenomenon, and the continuing strong demand for risk-free debt is the deep structure.


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Good points ...

Mark Reiboldt (Diary) Monday, February 2nd at 8:18AM EST (link)

Unfortunately what we’re seeing in credit markets is the flight to quality that is typical for bear markets (or recessionary environments), except in our current situation, that effect has been much more lagged than in previous downturns, primarily due to the fact that m uch of the volatility and uncertainty began in the credit markets, or at least the exposure can be traced to this sector. I think we can say the credit markets are coming around only when T-bills stabilize and fundamentals return to the credit markets. Either way, it will be welcomed to see credit markets stabilizing, because until bonds get under control, we can’t expect equities to trade on any sense of fundamentals.

 

Mixed Signs, but somewhat encouraging

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Monday, February 2nd at 9:00AM EST (link)

The UST market has is loosening up a bit, especially with the Chinese largely sitting on the sidelines. Fail rates are coming way down (pick your reason) which is a good sign in terms of overall market stability. Treasuries are down almost 3% in January (biggest drop since 2004) and it looks like we are tracking to about $2.5 trillion in borrowing by end of fiscal year. Some of that is a bit disconcerting especially when viewed in the huge pork bill misnamed as stimulus coming down the Hill. That type of reckless spending may delay any potential recovery as Congress once again misses the boat on putting money and incentives in the hand of people and companies vis-à-vis tax breaks. My opinion is tax breaks alone would give the market a needed kick- but that’s just me.

On the corporate side CP borrowing is way down- I think a positive sign as companies diminish reliance on short term financing. Overall, USCP outstandings are down, new sales into the CPFF are down while market purchases are up to about $83 billion. Confidence as CP purchases transition back to the investment market? Got me.

It was nice to see a positive reaction to Conoco, GIS, GS, Hess and BAC debt offerings. That gives hope there is some appetite for select investment grade offerings.

Overall, the Congress can still screw this up. The market is trying to correct itself and find the way forward. A massive new package of government handouts to states, Democrat pork from the last few years and significant entitlement expenditures that will create red ink for years to come could put a knife in this entire process. About one year ago some economists I spoke to felt we were about 12-24 months away from sustainable growth. They didn’t calculate any of this massive spending in that formula. That is what really keep me up at night now. What about you?

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

I think fail rates are down partly because of those new Fed penalties

Francis Cianfrocca (Diary) Monday, February 2nd at 11:27AM EST (link)

Also down partly because a lot of the recent disorder in repo was due to year-end factors.

CP is in an interesting place. We’re starting to get close to the time when a lot of CP from last summer (when the economy hit the wall) is getting close to its roll. I see no evidence that CP is unavailable, but I also see no evidence that it’s affordable for the less-than-A1/P1 borrowers.

On the other hand, with the economic falloff, you don’t need as much short-term finance, which actually takes off some of the pressure.

What keeps me awake at night is that the regulators are bound and determined not to let the economy deflate. But the factors driving deflation are secular not cyclical. They’re standing in the way of a runaway freight train, and they’ll end up making a big mess bigger.

Fail penalties and the "Chinese" factor, blackie

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Tuesday, February 3rd at 4:30PM EST (link)

When you start looking at mandatory fines that are based on FFR below 3% in this rate environment, it’s time to get the house in order. But it will get interesting since it appears the spike in fails to deliver was driven by sovereigns and buy side guys who will refuse to pay fines.

Deflation is an interesting topic. I think a big part of it is FED is stuck in the “Great Depression” mindset. Let me repeat,this is not the Great Depression; put down the book and step away from the money supply.

I am also guessing you are not a great believer in Kondratieff.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 

Fail penalties and the "Chinese" factor, blackie

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Tuesday, February 3rd at 4:30PM EST (link)

When you start looking at mandatory fines that are based on FFR below 3% in this rate environment, it’s time to get the house in order. But it will get interesting since it appears the spike in fails to deliver was driven by sovereigns and buy side guys who will refuse to pay fines.

Deflation is an interesting topic. I think a big part of it is FED is stuck in the “Great Depression” mindset. Let me repeat,this is not the Great Depression; put down the book and step away from the money supply.

I am also guessing you are not a great believer in Kondratieff.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 
 
 

Glad you're seeing a glimmer ...

skorrent1 (Diary) Monday, February 2nd at 10:24AM EST (link)

of light down the tunnel a ways, but I don’t know how you can credit it to the “positive impact of the Treasury and the Fed’s heroic stabilization efforts, including the much-maligned TARP.” Back in September, Paulson told us he had to have $700 billion immediately to take the toxic assets off the books. He got $350B. He didn’t get it immediately. And he didn’t absorb the toxic assets. This is success?

If you give a reasonably intelligent person unlimited power to spend $350B it’s likely he can manage to do some good with it, but that doesn’t mean it was a good idea to begin with. Especially as it turns out he really didn’t know what to do with it until he got it. And God (and Obama) only knows what the next $350B will be used for.

 

Some Citigroup bond gurus were predicting a bear market in Treasuries the other day,

streetwise (Diary) Monday, February 2nd at 12:51PM EST (link)

fueled by improvident spending and skittish buyers.

What do you think, Francis?

(The 30 yr UST moved from 2.5% at the end of Dec to 3.5% today; it was as high as 3.6%. Some are forecasting 5% by y/e 2009- which would be something given that everyone still expects the recession to be around then.)