Verizon’s Evil Customer Service Shows What’s Wrong With Nationalized Industry


The landline provider in my neighborhood in New York City is Verizon. I’m in the middle of a support incident with Verizon that I’ll describe in a bit of detail, for a couple of reasons. First, because it happens on an infrequent but regular basis. Second, because it vividly illustrates how a government-protected industry deals with its customers.

Why does this matter? Because we’re now talking about taking vast chunks of American industry into that happy zone where they have little to fear from market competition, or even from their shareholders and debtholders. Today, Verizon is in that place. Almost immediately, they’ll be joined by the Detroit automakers, and by America’s largest and most powerful banks. Sometime before Obama’s first term ends, America’s healthcare delivery system will also be there.

I was in the middle of a phone call yesterday morning, when the line went dead. Fair enough, this happens all the time. I live in New York City, where our infrastructure was once the most advanced in the world. And today, we still have exactly the same infrastructure. The central office that handles my phone service is now more than 100 years old. A lot has changed: Ernestine the telephone operator no longer works there, and they’ve painted over the windows.

Of course I checked all of my equipment. When I knew the problem was not on my premises, I called Verizon (from a different line). Now Verizon has gone to great lengths to create the illusion of friendly service. Their automated call center operations make it very difficult for you ever to speak to a human being, but the computer-generated messages are pleasant and folksy. Having been through this drill many times, however, I knew what to expect. Sure enough: “we have determined that the problem you are experiencing is in our network, and have made a commitment to fix the problem within 36 hours.”

The last time I heard that, I was out of phone and data service for ten days, and had to rent another office just to get my work done. (Unlike Verizon, my business faces competition, and my customers don’t want to hear about my phone and data problems.) Today is day two.

It would be one thing if I were the only customer affected by this problem, although that wouldn’t invalidate the thesis I’m developing. It turns out that they lost a whole trunk line in this neighborhood, 300 copper pairs. That’s a LOT of affected customers.

Verizon, you see, is a government-protected monopoly. They’re judged on customer service metrics that they negotiate with state and federal regulators. They really don’t have to care about whether 300 people in one neighborhood actually receive the service they pay for and depend on. Past experience suggests that I’ll need to talk to Verizon multiple times a day, and physically assault their field-service personnel with handouts and kindness, until I luck into talking to someone who’s senior enough and contented enough on that day to actually escalate the problem so it gets solved. Getting feisty and aggressive only makes me a troublemaker. The phone network is smart enough to make sure that troublemakers don’t get their problems solved quickly.

Yes, of course, I could pay a godawful amount of money per phone line, to get an SLA with Verizon that would bind them to a certain service level. In practice, however, all that does is to help them manage their own risk. Their SLA requires them to rebate your phone-service fees when they don’t provide the service. Since they operate most of the underlying infrastructure, however, they will still cause regular outages.

What I really want, is phone and data service that’s 100% reliable. A real phone company that was exposed to market competition would be looking for ways to make sure that their quality of service is nearly perfect.

In industries which are exposed to market competition, the very most important thing you can do is to make your customers happy. You spend a great deal of your time trying to find out what makes your customers happy, and then delivering happiness to them. But if you’re insulated from competition, you can relax. You don’t have to work as hard to make your customers happy, and you can concentrate on other constituencies, like your shareholders.

And if you manage to get yourself effectively owned and operated by the government, you don’t even have to worry about your shareholders.

That’s the direction that America’s large banks are going, at breakneck speed. Banks that have received extensive assistance from the taxpayers don’t really need to worry about their shareholders, and certainly not about their customers.

All they really need to worry about is Congress and the regulators. Today, the two big questions facing America’s semi-nationalized banks are: why aren’t you lending our money to people who need it, and why are you using our money to pay multi-million dollar bonuses to your senior people?

Now that America’s banks are known by all the world to be too big to fail, all they need do is to make sure they have good answers to sticky questions like these. And that’s a simple matter of negotiating with Congress and the Administration. Obama gets points for going on the news and saying that it’s outrageous for bankers and Wall Streeters to have a huge bonus payday in the very worst year they’ve ever had, a year in which they lost literally trillions of dollars in equity.

He’s right about the fact that this is outrageous, but his outrage will in no way translate to rescissions and clawbacks of bonuses that should never have been paid. The payback might take the form of a slight increase in notional tax liability for the affected banks. Or maybe a character like John Thain, the fired Merrill Lynch CEO who bought a $35,000 commode for his new office two years ago, will prove telegenic enough to be singled out for special punishment. That’ll be the extent of it, though.

And let’s talk about General Motors. Six weeks ago, the UAW scotched a compromise offered by Senator Corker that would have committed GM and the union to significant cost reductions, in return for government assistance. The UAW had the confidence to do this because they knew that Treasury would come through and use the last of its first-tranche TARP dollars to keep GM from failing by Christmas.

Now, GM is under a nominal obligation to produce an “acceptable” operating plan by March 31, or be forced to return the $13 billion they received at the end of December. They could produce a copy of Crime and Punishment in Russian, and that would be enough to fulfill the acceptability requirement! In the four weeks since we the taxpayers saved GM’s life, they and the UAW have done nothing but posture and lobby, rather than put together a painful but financially-responsible plan to keep running as a private company.

And in the meantime, indications are that car sales in January have been just as depressed from historic levels as they were throughout the fourth quarter of 2008. GM will be back to Capitol Hill next month, asking for the next Federal payment in what will become a long saga of all-but-nationalization.

And like Citibank, GM will have to give up the most egregious executive perks like the corporate jets and the multi-million dollar bonuses. But semi-nationalization is a great boon for any large business, which wants more than anything else to be insulated from market competition.

As with Verizon, so with the banking and auto industries, and eventually with healthcare. Get ready for an America in which our service providers have little or no market incentive to provide good service.

This post also appears at MarketsAndPolicy.com.


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Get ready for an America in which our service providers have little or no market incentive to provide good service.

izoneguy (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 9:45AM EST (link)

Get ready for an America in which our service providers have little or no market incentive to provide good service.

You mean like the post office and the IRS, to name a few.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

I think the IRS...

evanm (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 10:18AM EST (link)

I think the IRS should take the Post-Office’s lead, and have its employees not work one or two days a week. Or six.

I can totally see this happening with health care, too. With “health care for everybody,” there needs to be an alternative to price as a means of rationing. So we’ll get 6 days of emergency care a week, or doctor’s visits on certain days depending on your SSN.

Of course, illegals will always get free and immediate care in emergency rooms.

 
 

Preview of National Health Care: U.S. Post Office

Steve Maley (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 9:54AM EST (link)

…or the DMV, for that matter.

Run by unmotivated, indifferent clerks who are ticking off the days till retirement.

And now they want to drop a day of service a week.

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

Yep, what the post office should drop

izoneguy (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 10:04AM EST (link)

is the subsidizing of junk mail. We are all paying for it.
Anything that is an advertisment should cost double or triple. Business’s have so many ways to advertise and raising the prices on they pay for junk mail will make them think before they print up thousands of postcards that get thrown in the trash anyway.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

about that junk mail....

chuckie (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 11:05AM EST (link)

….living where i do, there is no garbage pickup…so we have to haul this stuff to the dump and pay by the pound….

….when i get any junk mail that comes with a business reply envelope, i write “stop sending me this stuff” on their ads, stuff the entire mailing in the reply envelope, and put it back in the mail….the envelope is usually fat enough to require extra postage….once in a while, this actually causes a company to stop mailing me….

…nevertheless, it is very true that the post office should not be subsidizing junk mail by raisiing first class postage for people who actually need to mail things….

…oh i must go now, sounds like the president is on live tv….again…..

 

Amen to that.

Steve Maley (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 12:19PM EST (link)

Nowadays the recycle bin is a required stop between the mail box & the front door.

At least half my mail goes unopened.

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

 

It's the other way around

Raven (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 2:30PM EST (link)

The USPS doesn’t subsidize the junk mail. The junk mail subsidizes them. The fees for sending all that garbage to hundreds of millions of people provides for a hefty chunk of their revenues. Been a few months since I saw the numbers, but I believe it’s about 40%.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

 
 

France 2.0 is coming soon to a location near you

woodsman (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 10:53AM EST (link)

It is looking more likely all the time for all of us.

 

I'll say one thing for the Post Office, when they're out to kill you, they don't bother with subtleties!

streetwise (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 1:36PM EST (link)

Unlike our already semi-socialized healthcare system.

 
 

Good points. And health care is most frightening.

scottbomb (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 10:15AM EST (link)

Those who call themselves “pro-choice” have always rallied around the idea that medical decisions are best left between a woman and her doctor (except of course with abortion, the unborn child never gets a say, but I digress…). With government-controlled health care, guess who gets the final word on ALL the decisions?

As an anecdote, I recently dumped Verizon for similar problems. I had their DSL service for almost 3 years when it suddenly went out and stayed out for a couple of days. After calling tech support 3 or 4 times, they finally determined that the modem was dead. They said they could send me a new one but I’d have to pay for it. It was THEIR modem! I told them to forget it and I got cable internet from Time Warner. Now when I moved into this apartment, Time Warner didn’t have high speed internet so Verizon had the monopoly. Not any more!

www.HowObamaGotElected.com

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

 

verizon

Princeliberty Friday, January 30th at 10:36AM EST (link)

Verizon is a horrible company. It has the worse customer service I have ever dealt with. It needs to face full competition on all fronts.

The world would be better place if verizon left the face of the planet.

Princeliberty

 

Seriously?

JCrawford Friday, January 30th at 11:04AM EST (link)

I understand the concern about nationalizing banking and health care, etc, and I’m definitely against such actions. But I have to say that this comparison is stretching it. I work in the telecom industry, and trust me, there is plenty of competition. Verizon is not the only game in town, you have Vonage, Cable Companies, Cell carriers, and some small CLEC’s all to deal with.
While I can appreciate the problem you’re having, you have to understand that repairing a trunk line is not a simple flip of a switch. It takes time. Most of the time they’re spending is finding where in the line the issue is at. If they can fix it, then they will, if they end up having to replace it, then you are looking at an extended outage – digging up several miles of trunk line and replacing it does not happen overnight.
While your local central office building may be over 100 years old, the equipment inside is not even close. Telco’s are the standard by which reliability is measured. Achieving 5 9′s (99.999% availability) is no small feat. That doesn’t mean that outages do not happen. But realistically, telco’s provide more reliable service than most other industries out there. And, yes, they do have to worry about an outage affecting 300 customers in one neighborhood. Every outage must be reported to the state, and affects their reliability score. Each state does have different rules, but there are overall SLA’s for different types of outages, and if they have too many outages in a year, or miss too many SLA’s, they get fined. So it is most definitely in Verizon’s best interest to get this resolved.
Telco’s have been the reason for a ton of innovation in communications and technology.
All of this while having limited competition and heavy government influence. As I said at the beginning, I’m not for nationalizing any industry, but I would say that telcos haven proven to be an exception.

 

I have a neighbor who is a cop.

phxg (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 11:07AM EST (link)

Lord help anyone who has to deal with him; he is unquestionably a pain.

This, like Verizon is the same. You have to deal with them when confronted to do so, and while one is by choice they both are unpleasant.

My neighbor has a saying (which cements his position with me) that is “What are ya gonna do if you don;t like my way, call the sheriff’s office for service”? And there it is, truth splayed open for all to see. Without choices, service suffers and life becomes a hassle.

I personally have had good luck with my Internet service through Cox Cable, but bandwidth throttling is coming, and that is worrisome.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

 

Can you hear me now?

jimmuy8 (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 11:29AM EST (link)

Wanna know how to tell if a company lives up to its promises? See what they are touting themselves as on TV. Then expect the opposite.

0 used the same concept of nearly all current marketing to get elected. Slick, smooth promises wrapped up in feel-good ambiguity.

The rule about “nothing kills a bad product faster than good marketing” is on life-support. The buy-in effect has been exploited perfectly.

Instead of selling products, they sell words and image. And many buy.

“Are we going to pay to fix the window? Heck no! We’re going to pay them with cheap, worthless words.” Futurerama.

 

South Ferry Station

JakePrime (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 11:32AM EST (link)

Our new subway stop is another great example. What a joke. Thanks a lot MTA.

 

It begs the question

tsquare (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 11:34AM EST (link)

Why land lines?

I gave mine up two years next month… both home and business. “Everyone” was calling the cell anyway. Add in a data card for the laptop and I’m done… and mobile… and close to 125 a month richer.

Oh, and it’s all with Verizon Wireless… which while not perfect has not been too bad.

 

It's like Jimmy Walker in Good Times

kowalski (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 1:53PM EST (link)

And like Citibank, GM will have to give up the most egregious executive perks like the corporate jets and the multi-million dollar bonuses. But semi-nationalization is a great boon for any large business, which wants more than anything else to be insulated from market competition.

Man, it’s just like that episode of Good Times when Jimmy Walker says to John Amos after Amos forbids him from doing something that would sell himself out and take himself out of contention:

“Go Ahead, Dad! Ruin Me!”

 

In My Experience, blackhedd

Raven (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 2:32PM EST (link)

Getting angry and telling them you’re an “Irate Customer” gets faster action from more senior personnel.
As an Irate Customer, I was able to get the VP of Customer Service on the line the last time I had a problem with them. My problem was solved before I was off the phone (they had been charging me for long distance calls I never made and I knew I never made them because I have no long distance service).

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

 

Remember Ernestine?

Menlo (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 8:07PM EST (link)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1299237781504204785&ei=S2eDSeOINpy4qAOXrM3dDQ&q=%22we+don%27t+care+we+don%27t+have+to%22+%22phone+company%22&hl=en

“We don’t care. We don’t have to. We’re The Phone Company.”

Quite a few parallels to our government.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 

Ways to connect with a live human being in a "Customer Service" setting.

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Friday, January 30th at 8:21PM EST (link)

How to bypass some of the automated call center systems.

Can You Hear me Now ?

Cheers !