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		<title>By: JSobieski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2752</link>
		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2751</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you state, the Fed has increased it&#039;s balance sheet from ~$800 billion to $2.2 trillion.  However, it acted in a much higher range of the credit quality spectrum than the range addressed by TARP.  While the Fed had to lower its credit criteria for some new instruments it added (e.g. high quality MBS), it didn&#039;t drop anywhere near the risk level of the preferred stock vehicle chosen (or the original subprime debt that no one knew how to price).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you state, the Fed has increased it&#8217;s balance sheet from ~$800 billion to $2.2 trillion.  However, it acted in a much higher range of the credit quality spectrum than the range addressed by TARP.  While the Fed had to lower its credit criteria for some new instruments it added (e.g. high quality MBS), it didn&#8217;t drop anywhere near the risk level of the preferred stock vehicle chosen (or the original subprime debt that no one knew how to price).</p>
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		<title>By: JSobieski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2749</link>
		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just expand the Fed&#039;s liquidity program by $700B and keep Congress (and Treasury) out of it?

Why couldn&#039;t the Fed simply have increased its balance sheet by another $700B?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just expand the Fed&#8217;s liquidity program by $700B and keep Congress (and Treasury) out of it?</p>
<p>Why couldn&#8217;t the Fed simply have increased its balance sheet by another $700B?</p>
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		<title>By: JSobieski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2748</link>
		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure I don&#039;t have a complete and accurage understanding of how things work.  I am a small businessman who works primarily with other small businesses. I did expand a letter of credit before TARP was passed and after the crisis started, so I am skeptical of the &quot;credit is totally dried up&quot; meme.  I am still getting 0% APR credit card offers as a consumer.

I may not be a finance guy, but i have pretty good business instincts and read quite a lot of economic issues. I am not persuaded by the analysis that I read.regarding TARP and the financial crisis.

For example, I have yet to hear someone explain why in light of actions by the Fed and the FDIC, why the TARP was necessary.  

Why couldn&#039;t the Fed simply have increased its balance sheet by another $700B?

Until someone explains why not, its hard to take the TARP stuff seriously. I mean, Paulson changed his mind on the specific actions to be performed under TARP almost immediately after passage. Given the seat-of-the-pants aspect of this crisis, the definitiveness of &quot;we needed TARP&quot; is not persuasive to me.

So why couldn&#039;t the Fed simply have increased its balance sheet by another $700B?

I mean, if you are going to go up to $2.2 T why not go to $2.9T?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I don&#8217;t have a complete and accurage understanding of how things work.  I am a small businessman who works primarily with other small businesses. I did expand a letter of credit before TARP was passed and after the crisis started, so I am skeptical of the &#8220;credit is totally dried up&#8221; meme.  I am still getting 0% APR credit card offers as a consumer.</p>
<p>I may not be a finance guy, but i have pretty good business instincts and read quite a lot of economic issues. I am not persuaded by the analysis that I read.regarding TARP and the financial crisis.</p>
<p>For example, I have yet to hear someone explain why in light of actions by the Fed and the FDIC, why the TARP was necessary.  </p>
<p>Why couldn&#8217;t the Fed simply have increased its balance sheet by another $700B?</p>
<p>Until someone explains why not, its hard to take the TARP stuff seriously. I mean, Paulson changed his mind on the specific actions to be performed under TARP almost immediately after passage. Given the seat-of-the-pants aspect of this crisis, the definitiveness of &#8220;we needed TARP&#8221; is not persuasive to me.</p>
<p>So why couldn&#8217;t the Fed simply have increased its balance sheet by another $700B?</p>
<p>I mean, if you are going to go up to $2.2 T why not go to $2.9T?</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Cianfrocca</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2747</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Cianfrocca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If private banks are not able to attract private recapitalization, the world as we know it will end. Full stop.

The TARP and the Fed&#039;s liquidity programs are intended to stem the effects of panic and systemic crisis. They&#039;re supposed to get the system back to something like normal without a meltdown.

If we get back to near normal, and banks then find themselves unable to attract capital, the global economy will either get smaller, invent some new ways to intermediate credit, spend a lot of years promoting some new banks, or all of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If private banks are not able to attract private recapitalization, the world as we know it will end. Full stop.</p>
<p>The TARP and the Fed&#8217;s liquidity programs are intended to stem the effects of panic and systemic crisis. They&#8217;re supposed to get the system back to something like normal without a meltdown.</p>
<p>If we get back to near normal, and banks then find themselves unable to attract capital, the global economy will either get smaller, invent some new ways to intermediate credit, spend a lot of years promoting some new banks, or all of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: JSobieski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2746</link>
		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I have read, I would rank the various remedial emergency actions as follows:

(1) Fed Actions - 0%prime rate, increased balance sheet
(2) FDIC - raise guarantee to $250k
(3) TARP

How much worse would we be if there was no TARP?

I think your order is wrong.  Fed action was and is more important than the TARP.

Was the TARP truly necessary given the other actions?

I would rather have the Fed push the limits of government intervention than Congress and the Treasury department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I have read, I would rank the various remedial emergency actions as follows:</p>
<p>(1) Fed Actions &#8211; 0%prime rate, increased balance sheet<br />
(2) FDIC &#8211; raise guarantee to $250k<br />
(3) TARP</p>
<p>How much worse would we be if there was no TARP?</p>
<p>I think your order is wrong.  Fed action was and is more important than the TARP.</p>
<p>Was the TARP truly necessary given the other actions?</p>
<p>I would rather have the Fed push the limits of government intervention than Congress and the Treasury department.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Cianfrocca</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Cianfrocca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s your background, JSobieski? Are you a local banker?

I&#039;m not convinced you have a clear grip on the structure of the Treasury debt market at the issuing end. I don&#039;t know enough about small banks and other intermediaries like credit unions to understand where you&#039;re going with this.

It&#039;s not enough for large banks not to fail. We have to get through a long period of time, at least a few quarters, in which there are no major failures at all. The last thing you can do is lend money overnight to someone that might not be there in the morning. That happened so many times over the past year that there&#039;s no confidence out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s your background, JSobieski? Are you a local banker?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced you have a clear grip on the structure of the Treasury debt market at the issuing end. I don&#8217;t know enough about small banks and other intermediaries like credit unions to understand where you&#8217;re going with this.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not enough for large banks not to fail. We have to get through a long period of time, at least a few quarters, in which there are no major failures at all. The last thing you can do is lend money overnight to someone that might not be there in the morning. That happened so many times over the past year that there&#8217;s no confidence out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Cianfrocca</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2744</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Cianfrocca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in early October, there was serious question when and at what rate private banks would ever lend money to each other again. Every kind of finance that depended on short-term credit was at a locked-down, frozen standstill, from institutional money funds to secured commercial paper.

Overnight repo rates for Treasury specials were negative almost every night, and the rate of fails was so high that the Treasury even added penalties on them for the first time that I can remember.

The Fed funds rate was tracking between 0.20 and 0.35 almost every night, even though the Fed&#039;s target at that time was 1 percent.

The swap spread on 30-year Treasury bonds was negative almost every day. One day it hit -60 basis points.

All of this stuff was just totally insane, bat-excrement crazy. The financial markets were fully expecting the world to end. The stock markets, by behaving with relative calm (only falling 23% in one week), showed yet again how good they are at denying reality.

All of that panic has subsided and calmed down since then. The TARP and the wide range of extraordinary Fed actions get the credit. They applied the defibrillator paddles over and over again, and the heart finally started beating again.

Now, a small amount of risk-tolerance is finally starting to creep back into the system. We&#039;ve got a basis for further improvements. There&#039;s a very long way to go, but anyone who thinks the TARP was a dismal failure either wasn&#039;t paying attention, or has an exceptionally high pain threshold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in early October, there was serious question when and at what rate private banks would ever lend money to each other again. Every kind of finance that depended on short-term credit was at a locked-down, frozen standstill, from institutional money funds to secured commercial paper.</p>
<p>Overnight repo rates for Treasury specials were negative almost every night, and the rate of fails was so high that the Treasury even added penalties on them for the first time that I can remember.</p>
<p>The Fed funds rate was tracking between 0.20 and 0.35 almost every night, even though the Fed&#8217;s target at that time was 1 percent.</p>
<p>The swap spread on 30-year Treasury bonds was negative almost every day. One day it hit -60 basis points.</p>
<p>All of this stuff was just totally insane, bat-excrement crazy. The financial markets were fully expecting the world to end. The stock markets, by behaving with relative calm (only falling 23% in one week), showed yet again how good they are at denying reality.</p>
<p>All of that panic has subsided and calmed down since then. The TARP and the wide range of extraordinary Fed actions get the credit. They applied the defibrillator paddles over and over again, and the heart finally started beating again.</p>
<p>Now, a small amount of risk-tolerance is finally starting to creep back into the system. We&#8217;ve got a basis for further improvements. There&#8217;s a very long way to go, but anyone who thinks the TARP was a dismal failure either wasn&#8217;t paying attention, or has an exceptionally high pain threshold.</p>
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		<title>By: JSobieski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2743</link>
		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would cutting back on foreign investrment have an impact on our economy? Sure.  But it might result in a more rational and stable economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would cutting back on foreign investrment have an impact on our economy? Sure.  But it might result in a more rational and stable economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2741</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2740</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continued life support in the form of loans until investors feel confident enough to reconstitute the lost capital.

At what point does this megate any possible ROI that may or may not actually occur?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued life support in the form of loans until investors feel confident enough to reconstitute the lost capital.</p>
<p>At what point does this megate any possible ROI that may or may not actually occur?</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2739</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2738</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>their investments in mortgage backed securities, agency debt, and corporates are substantial also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>their investments in mortgage backed securities, agency debt, and corporates are substantial also.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2737</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First Claims        Bondholders/Depositors/Creditors
...
Second to Last  Preferred Equity Holders
Last                    Common Stockholders


BTW, the article above concludes that any transfer of wealth from the TARP program has thus far gone to the Bondholders/Depositors/Creditors claimants above the govt, not to the common stockholders below.

(Now, ensuring that the funds don&#039;t get weaseled away on excess pay, dividends, etc. is another issue.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First Claims        Bondholders/Depositors/Creditors<br />
&#8230;<br />
Second to Last  Preferred Equity Holders<br />
Last                    Common Stockholders</p>
<p>BTW, the article above concludes that any transfer of wealth from the TARP program has thus far gone to the Bondholders/Depositors/Creditors claimants above the govt, not to the common stockholders below.</p>
<p>(Now, ensuring that the funds don&#8217;t get weaseled away on excess pay, dividends, etc. is another issue.)</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2736</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But to date, the Big3 diversion involved a $15 billion loan (lots of terrible precidents there but no where near the money Obama is talking).

In fact the analysis of the article below (it&#039;s a model analysis, not the absolute truth) concludes that the original toxic asset purchase would have been less efficient in taxpayer dollars than the path chosen by Paulson.

From the WSJ article
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The report faulted Treasury on a variety of fronts, saying it has: 
1) no ability to ensure banks lend the money they&#039;ve received from the government; 
&lt;font color=&quot;DodgerBlue&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The alternative is for the govt to get directly involved in the lending business. We saw how that worked w/ CRA.  And of course, the banks aren&#039;t lending with the basically risk free alternatives that this environment provides&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
2) no standards for measuring the success of the program; 
&lt;font color=&quot;DodgerBlue&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;No, but Paulson didn&#039;t exactly have the luxury of time as the financial system teetered on collapse.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/luigi.zingales/research/PSpapers/paulsons_gift.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link courtesy of Francis&lt;/a&gt; for a working paper that attempts to develop a framework.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
3) and that it ignored or offered incomplete answers to panel questions.
&lt;font color=&quot;DodgerBlue&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Guilty.  But good answers would involve explaining and debating concepts such as those in the aforementioned link.  No easy task in our sound byte media.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But to date, the Big3 diversion involved a $15 billion loan (lots of terrible precidents there but no where near the money Obama is talking).</p>
<p>In fact the analysis of the article below (it&#8217;s a model analysis, not the absolute truth) concludes that the original toxic asset purchase would have been less efficient in taxpayer dollars than the path chosen by Paulson.</p>
<p>From the WSJ article</p>
<blockquote><p>
The report faulted Treasury on a variety of fronts, saying it has:<br />
1) no ability to ensure banks lend the money they&#8217;ve received from the government;<br />
<font color="DodgerBlue"><i>The alternative is for the govt to get directly involved in the lending business. We saw how that worked w/ CRA.  And of course, the banks aren&#8217;t lending with the basically risk free alternatives that this environment provides</i></font><br />
2) no standards for measuring the success of the program;<br />
<font color="DodgerBlue"><i>No, but Paulson didn&#8217;t exactly have the luxury of time as the financial system teetered on collapse.  See <a href="http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/luigi.zingales/research/PSpapers/paulsons_gift.pdf" rel="nofollow">Link courtesy of Francis</a> for a working paper that attempts to develop a framework.</i></font><br />
3) and that it ignored or offered incomplete answers to panel questions.<br />
<font color="DodgerBlue"><i>Guilty.  But good answers would involve explaining and debating concepts such as those in the aforementioned link.  No easy task in our sound byte media.</i></font>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2735</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They blocked oversight of Freddie/Fannie back in 2005 - we have the youtube videos of their committee discussions -- while the Repubs were screaming that a crisis was in the offing.  They played the race card going and coming.

I accept not one iota of responsibility. It was the Democrats. All the way, 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They blocked oversight of Freddie/Fannie back in 2005 &#8211; we have the youtube videos of their committee discussions &#8212; while the Repubs were screaming that a crisis was in the offing.  They played the race card going and coming.</p>
<p>I accept not one iota of responsibility. It was the Democrats. All the way, 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/blackhedd/2009/01/13/obama-reinterprets-the-tarp-dont-be-fooled/#comment-2732</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But really would someone please answer my question????....;^)</description>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and SO underservedly so, since they bear every bit as much responsibility as Republicans.

McCain clearly failed to explain the issue.  I probably wouldn&#039;t be here posting if not for the mis-attribution of blame that&#039;s got us headed in the socialist direction.  This pisses me off to no end.  And now Obama is going to use the $700 billion quoted figure to push through, not the facilitation of private activity, but the purchase of billions/trillion of actual garage sale like stuff.  All sales final.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and SO underservedly so, since they bear every bit as much responsibility as Republicans.</p>
<p>McCain clearly failed to explain the issue.  I probably wouldn&#8217;t be here posting if not for the mis-attribution of blame that&#8217;s got us headed in the socialist direction.  This pisses me off to no end.  And now Obama is going to use the $700 billion quoted figure to push through, not the facilitation of private activity, but the purchase of billions/trillion of actual garage sale like stuff.  All sales final.</p>
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		<title>By: JSobieski</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what has government done, what were the alternatives, and what appears to have had an impact?

Seems to me the Fed and FDIC are doing things that are helpful.  Not sure what legal basis they have for those actions, but given the Fed and FDIC actions, I think the TARP was not necessary.

TARP is opening the barn door for a whole lot of pork and Keynesian nonesense that will take decades to recover from</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what has government done, what were the alternatives, and what appears to have had an impact?</p>
<p>Seems to me the Fed and FDIC are doing things that are helpful.  Not sure what legal basis they have for those actions, but given the Fed and FDIC actions, I think the TARP was not necessary.</p>
<p>TARP is opening the barn door for a whole lot of pork and Keynesian nonesense that will take decades to recover from</p>
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		<dc:creator>JSobieski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all banks would fail.  THose that didn&#039;t could sell all sorts of things---and buy all sorts of things as well.

State and regional banks are getting virtually none of the TARP money, at least in Michigan.

Those same banks are the ones doing all of the lending . .  as well as credit unions.

Let the Chinese by T-Bills from the smaller banks--thats the kind of fiscal stimulus we could use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all banks would fail.  THose that didn&#8217;t could sell all sorts of things&#8212;and buy all sorts of things as well.</p>
<p>State and regional banks are getting virtually none of the TARP money, at least in Michigan.</p>
<p>Those same banks are the ones doing all of the lending . .  as well as credit unions.</p>
<p>Let the Chinese by T-Bills from the smaller banks&#8211;thats the kind of fiscal stimulus we could use.</p>
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