Tonight the Commander in Chief has endorsed the Ground Zero mosque project. From AP:
“As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country,” Obama said, weighing in for the first time on a controversy that has riven New York City and the nation.
“That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances,” he said. “This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable.”
Obama made the comments at an annual dinner in the White House State Dining Room celebrating the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
I wonder if he cut a check to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, for the upcoming fund raising junket to the Middle East, at the Ramadan dinner.
At the next protest I think I’ll wear my old, partially-melted work boots that are covered with a a veneer of toxic chemicals and the dust of human cremains.
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Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, August 13th at 10:34PM EST (link)Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/islam-is-not-a-religion-nor-is-it-a-cult-it-is-a-complete-system/
How soon before Obama shuts this down????
The Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program
https://www.cia.gov/offices-of-cia/intelligence-analysis/organization-1/pisap.html
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
At some time, we're going to have to face up to it.
Flagstaff (Diary) Sunday, August 15th at 3:29AM EST (link)It won’t be easy.
“Freedom of religion” was never meant to shield from scrutiny, investigation, resistance, or elimination, a movement that desires to destroy the United States and the Constitution. It was intended to protect peaceful worshipers from government persecution. Yes, it’s a difficult thing to do, separating investigation from persecution, but we do it now in every other field of endeavor.
The courts, even the Supreme Court, have been willing to subvert other rights protected by the Constitution just because it’s convenient. In the case of religion, we don’t let native Americans use hallucinogens in ceremonies, and we don’t allow human sacrifice as part of any religious ceremony. That isn’t a “law respecting an establishment of religion,” because it’s a result of other laws non-specific towards religion. But it certainly prohibits “the free exercise thereof.”
The idea of a church being an inviolable sanctuary, protected from infiltration by undercover agents by the First Amendment, has to go. The idea of a “religion” that doesn’t tolerate the equal treatment of believers in other religions, or non-believers, needs to be defined as something other than a protected “religion” itself. Maybe Judge Walker can rule on that definition for us.
Furthermore, it’s to the benefit of our country to assimilate native Arabic speaking immigrants into American society, for obvious reasons. I mean, really assimilate them, into fully American families who happen to follow peaceful, tolerant, Islam.
I said it won’t be easy.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
3 things you don't know about Islam
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, August 15th at 4:07PM EST (link)The presentation of this video is very annoying,
but good information nevertheless.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Excellent video, izoneguy.
Flagstaff (Diary) Sunday, August 15th at 5:56PM EST (link)Many of us would know the truth of it in our gut. Documentation like this is better.
This video points out the insidious nature of dealing with people who speak a very different language, one which is not widely spoken among westerners or westernists, to coin a term. The concept of saying one thing in English (or French, etc.) and the opposite in Arabic is an obvious problem in dealing with a man like Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. Have we sent an official, patriotic interpreter along with him on his mid-east fund-raising junket? How do we know just what he is saying?
Calling Islam a “religious ideology” rather than a religion is at least a start on addressing our problems with their using our own freedom against us. The fact that it has replacing the Constitution and our democratic republic with Sharia and a theocracy as a basic tenet of its beliefs and Q’uranic goals should be enough to remove it from the protection of the First Amendment, no matter how many believers it may have.
We have no problem with restricting the acceptance of and keeping close tabs on the KKK, even though it has some elements of a religion, because of its known objectives.
I don’t know how Scientology is treated, but it’s more akin to a secret society than to a religion.
For those who simply cannot take the time to watch the fast-moving video, the 3 things are (1) Islam has not been hijacked; later, more violent, verses supersede earlier peaceful verses, and that sequence is laid out in the Q’uran; (2) the Q’uran instructs Muslims to spread Sharia everywhere, replacing other laws; (3) the principle of “Taqiyya” calls for Muslims to lie to infidels anytime and about anything that will advance the cause of Islam. The Imam may well be doing just that.
The video gives a better, but still concise, explanation.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
You know what he absolutely will not demand?
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, August 13th at 10:49PM EST (link)Reciprocity.
This Guy Won't Be Satisfied Until He Takes Every Democrat In The Country Down With Him
IJB Friday, August 13th at 11:03PM EST (link)Not that I’m complaining, mind you.
Pravda America is in trouble
callmeroy Friday, August 13th at 11:04PM EST (link)The plan is to build a 13-story Muslim mosque and cultural center literally only a few hundred feet from Ground Zero in lower Manhattan. The leader of the project, Imam Abdul Rauf, says that the mosque is intended as a gesture to build “bridges between faiths.” Another proponent claims that the mosque, which will occupy the site of a 152-year old building that suffered damage in the 9/11 attack, is really a “celebration of America’s religious tolerance.” Why would a religion founded on fealty to one law, one leader, and one god — a religion whose modern defining characteristic is its intolerance of all other faiths and traditions — actually “celebrate” America’s religious diversity. That’s the very thing Islam HATES about us. How could a religion that reduces women and girls to mere chattel and considers all non-Muslims to be second-class citizens conceivably “celebrate” a non-Muslim society that believes all humans are created equal in God’s sight? It’s laughable. Yet our leaders and the media-types have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. Are they that stupid or have they been intimidated into acquiescence? New York City already has more than 100 mosques. We’ve already proven that we really are an open, tolerant society. To say with a straight face that this is Islam’s celebration of America’s religious tolerance would be like the Southern Baptists building a church in Amsterdam’s infamous Red Light District to “celebrate” Holland’s sexual promiscuity. It doesn’t make sense because it doesn’t make sense.
I’ll tell you why the Muslims insist on putting a 13-story mega-mosque (which, by the way, will eerily resemble a World Trade Center tower) within earshot of Ground Zero. It will be nothing less than a traditional act of Islamic triumphalism. It’s a symbol of conquest. Although the Muslims have changed the name of the proposed structure to “Park 51 Mosque,” the campaign to build it is still called “The Cordoba Initiative.” For all of you Progressives, and Liberals who are supposed to be intellectual but who can’t change the oil in your own car (like Barry Barack Hussein), I’m going to share with you a short history lesson about the symbolism of “Cordoba” in the Islamic mind. And trust me, the Muslims are big on symbolism.
The world should know that the ‘Cordoba Initiative,’ the New York City based organization desiring to construct a massive Islamic house of prayer at ‘Ground Zero,’ has posted on its website, a peculiar and disingenuous statement indicating the desire to bring back the atmosphere of, “interfaith tolerance and respect that we have longed for since Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together in harmony and prosperity eight hundred years ago.”
I point this out because contemporary scholarship has clearly demonstrated that there was no ‘harmony’ or ‘prosperity’ for non-Muslims in Islamic Spain. The Cordoba Initiative is attempting to revisit some sort of mythical “tolerance and respect” which never existed.
What is irrefutable is that living under Islam, the non-Muslim population was always mandated to submit to Islam, accept discriminatory laws, and make payment of a mandatory Quranic tax imposed upon every non-Muslim. For a period of about 800 years, most of Spain was ruled by Muslims and this area was known as ‘Al-Andalus.’ Islamic rule ended in 1492, when the city of Granada, the last Muslim kingdom in Western Europe, capitulated to the Spanish Catholics.
The Cordoba Initiative is an organization whose very name makes reference to what was, 1,000 years ago, one of the world’s most advanced cities, Cordoba, Al-Andalus (Spain). This was a city that was politically and religiously dominated by Islam, and a city that was conquered by jihad (holy war). Today, there are Islamic groups such as Al-Qaeda that have a dream of seeing a pan-Islamic world that would extend from old Al-Andalus (Spain). This is based upon Islam’s principle of dar-al-Islam, which means a world where Islamic sovereignty prevails over the citizenry. Dar-al-Islam is attained through jihad and the media is replete with Al- Qaeda’s calls for jihad and their claims to Al-Andalus and its major cities such as Cordoba.
Clearly, Islamic Cordoba was once a city where a number of intellectual Muslims such as Averroes (Ibn-Rushd), influenced European thought with Arab philosophy related to the scientific teachings of Aristotle. In mathematics, the Arabs built upon the foundations of Greek mathematicians. At one point there were dozens of free schools in Cordoba for the education of poor Arabs and at some point there existed some 600 mosques. However, even with all of this scholastic and societal grandeur, the route to get to such a point of magnificence was through violent warfare.
Not only were successive battles for Spanish cities bloody, but desiring more than Spain–the Arabs declared a jihad against France, then crossed the Pyrenees, and in successive swarms spread over the southern regions of the French countryside, slaughtering the Christians by thousands, and burning their churches to the ground before being halted.
We must remember that a practice associated with conquering Islamic armies was the construction of a mosque at the location where their triumphant battle was won. Thus, this modern Islamic organization is seeking to build a mosque at the site of 9/11 attack—an attack which was carried out by 19 Muslim hijackers who considered their mission holy war.
Insomuch, it is this man’s opinion that a Muslim house of prayer that would be cemented in the ashes of catastrophe at the foot of New York’s lost Twin Towers would be a symbolic victory flag for Muslims who seek the destruction of America. Further, it is my honest opinion that no matter how the construction of a mosque at ‘Ground Zero’ may be perceived by well-meaning Americans, the construction of a mosque on the spot where Al-Qaeda brought jihad to the United States will unquestionably represent victory to the worldwide forces of Radical Islam.
So, in other words, Liberals, Progressives, and MSNBC Pravda worshippers, if the Big Bad Wolf tells you that he won’t eat you?
Addition to above article "Pravda America is in trouble"
callmeroy Friday, August 13th at 11:10PM EST (link)Sorry folks, I mistakenly left Hal Lindsey’s name off of this wonderful article about ” The Cordoba Initiative.” God bless you Hal, your the best and many people love you for your wisdom and generocity in sharing much information about our world. Thanks again.
Well, Hal Lindsey answered some questions for me.
Flagstaff (Diary) Sunday, August 15th at 2:50AM EST (link)I have wondered for some time if there were not some significance to the name “Cordoba Project.” Not hard to believe that there is, and it isn’t a good thing for us.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Obama didn't have to say anything, so why did he do it?
usadying (Diary) Friday, August 13th at 11:51PM EST (link)Gibbs said the WH position was that it was a local matter. So did Obama want to look good at his Iftar dinner? Did he think it would get lost in the Friday night news dump? Did he think it would be ignored while he was off to his “let them eat cake” vacation in Martha’s Vineyard? His words are so “in your face”. He must know what America’s reaction would be. Will it be another excuse to label us racist and intolerant? Even he must know that is wearing thin.
I dunno: does he?
Moe Lane (Diary) Saturday, August 14th at 12:19AM EST (link)“Even he must know that is wearing thin.”
The man’s not really what you’d call extroverted. Or experienced. Or engaged in the world, really.
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