In this week’s article in the New Yorker by Jane Mayer – The Secret History – Panetta responds to Cheney’s recent criticism of Obama regarding Gitmo and terrorist interrogations.
“I think he smells some blood in the water on the national-security issue,” he told me. “It’s almost, a little bit, gallows politics. When you read behind it, it’s almost as if he’s wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point. I think that’s dangerous politics.”
Naturally, this article condemns the CIA through the twisted logic of the Bush-haters on the left.
In the past few years, irrefutable evidence has emerged that after 9/11 the agency lost its moral bearings. A confidential Red Cross report has come into public view, along with formerly classified government documents, leaving no doubt that the agency subjected scores of terror suspects to prolonged physical and psychological cruelty.
The evidence is irrefutable, because they say it is. There is no debate on the issue. Instead, much like a banana republic, the call is to conduct a wartime prosecution of the the enemy – the political enemy that is.
Torture is a felony, and is sometimes treated as a capital crime. The Convention Against Torture, which America ratified in 1994, requires a government to prosecute all acts of torture; failure to do so is considered a breach of international law.
The CIA is also criticized for providing misleading evidence about WMD’s in Iraq.
The C.I.A.’s role in providing misleading intelligence about the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has also provoked calls for reform. Senator Dianne Feinstein, the new chairman of the Intelligence Committee, told me, “There’s no vote that I regret more than the vote to authorize war with Iraq”; her vote was based on intelligence that she describes as “flat wrong.”
Even if one were to assume CIA incompetence or malfeasance on the WMD issue, it doesn’t square with the fact that intelligence agencies of other countries were saying the same thing at the same time, as were Democrat heavyweights going back into the Clinton administration. Feinstein, of course, condemns Bush for making the call based on this issue, while she merely has a “regret.” If she were consistent, she would resign and retire to private life.
Panetta does, however, grudgingly admit that the enhanced interrogation techniques worked.
The Senate investigation will, among other things, probe the question of torture’s efficacy. Dick Cheney has repeatedly claimed that “enhanced” interrogations yield results. Opponents say that torture is counterproductive. Panetta is more agnostic. He told me, “The bottom line would be this: Yes, important information was gathered from these detainees. It provided information that in fact was acted upon. Was this the only way to obtain this information? I think that will always be an open question.” But he is certain that “we did pay a price for using those methods.”
Despite putting forth the public perception that CIA employees will not be prosecuted, there is apparently a back-door effort to do just that, one that the Obama administration could disavow as the independent actions of an overzealous prosecutor (wink wink nudge nudge).
A prosecutor appointed by the Justice Department, John Durham, has convened a grand jury in Washington to weigh potential criminal charges against C.I.A. officers who were involved in the destruction of ninety-two videotapes documenting the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and other detainees. Mickum told me that he has met several times with Durham, and believes that the scope of his inquiry may have expanded to include a review of whether the C.I.A. began using brutal methods on Zubaydah before it received written authorization from the Justice Department. (This would provide an extra motive for destroying the videotapes.) Mickum said, “I got the sense he was very serious.”
Panetta has a plan for replacing the enhanced interrogation techniques with a kinder, gentler method.
Panetta is already forging ahead on one important reform: he plans to replace the abusive interrogation program with a legally acceptable, non-coercive alternative. A task force led by the Harvard Law School professor Philip Heymann has been advising him on a proposal to create an élite U.S. government interrogation team, staffed by some of the best C.I.A., F.B.I., and military officers in the country, and drawing on the advice of social scientists, linguists, and other scholars. “What I’m pushing for is to establish a facility where we develop a team of interrogators trained in the latest techniques,” Panetta said.
Enough with the soft pillows, bring out the comfy chair!!
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Pssst, CIA employees
Kyle-MI (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 10:35PM EST (link)Panetta does NOT have your backs. F.Y.I.
Paul Revere wanted the U.S. to be attacked by the redcoats...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 10:51PM EST (link)when he went to warn of the approaching British attack.
Talk about throwing the U.S. under the bus over and over again…
I am beginning to get very P.O. with this utter bureacratic and political BS that is thrown out by politicians running the executive departments. Keep this BS up and Cheney’s prophecy will come true.
This is the biggest projection that I have ever seen from Democratic CIA directors and quite the switcheroo, Cheney is warning the admistration that they are leaving the U.S. with two hands tied behind their back. If he wanted the U.S. to be attacked to prove his point he would keep his mouth shut and when the attack comes he will say “I told you so”.
Keep it up guys, because I am in no mood to tell my fellow Americans that I told you so. The great thing about the warnings I make is that I always end up saying I really, really hope I am wrong and I mean it.
McCarthy wanted Soviet spys in the White House-nt
DONTREADONME (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 10:55PM EST (link)'ski, Harry Reid wanting to lose the war, oh wait he did...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 10:56PM EST (link)“the war is lost” Harry Reid recorded sometime in the last 4 years.
Mr. Panetta, don't you think that seeking Cheney's advice...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 11:34PM EST (link)and input on a strategic plan for the CIA to help keep America secure would be a more prudent course of action, considering President Obama has just required that Miranda rights be read to battlefield detainees?
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
I see the problem here, and we must do a switch.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 11:50PM EST (link)We must get congress to pass a law that equates terrorists with “unwanted” babies. No problem, we just abor.. kill them.
And while we’re at it, lets give “Unborn” babies the same rights as terrorists.
We don’t abort them, we wait untill they give us a reason to kill them.
See, this is Bazaro world.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Yes the world has become bizarre, geks...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 11:55PM EST (link)pretty soon the Democrats will demand that up be defined as down and left be defined as right instead of wrong. It is just a matter of time we will be saying which type of married couple are you the heterogenous or the homogenous? Remember in the future refer to the right as wrong and the left as right since if we don’t we could end up in the reimagination camps.
I just worry about replacing the Drapes hung outside to often.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 11:58PM EST (link)its gonna cost alot.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
lol-nt
DONTREADONME (Diary) Monday, June 15th at 12:02AM EST (link)Umm...
Brian Faughnan (Diary) Monday, June 15th at 8:27AM EST (link)I know that only Republicans do this, but to say that your political opponent wants to see a successful enemy attack – isn’t that questioning patriotism?
Also, if Cheney really wanted the chance to say ‘I told you say,’ he would say nothing right now. He has laid out his views clearly – both in the campaign and after. He has said all he needs to say to earn the ‘right’ to say I told you so. By speaking up now, he’s making it harder for the Obama team to make the sorts of policy changes that he believes endanger the country. So in fact, he is making it harder to come back and say I told you so later on down the road.