Comments on: When Lies Become the Truth http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/ Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:56:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: roguepolitics http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-766 roguepolitics Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:08:35 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-766 I don't mean the type as defined in the constitution but the type we have. We don't have constitutional government in America today and I don't think anybody except the oldest among us can even remember what it was like when we did have it. I want it back. I want the federal government constrained. I want them to poor to buy anything except military hardware. I want them closing the borders to all but legal aliens. If that makes me an RWE so be it. I proudly own membership in a group that would seem to include Jefferson, Adams and Madison. My point, that you seem to miss, is that we must stop allowing the RWE designation to be applied to people that more closely resemble the leftist dictators, socialists, Marxists, Fascists, etc. of recent history. A skinhead falls somewhere between Robert "KKK" Byrd and Adolf Hitler. Both socialist leftists. If left to right were placed on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being left and 10 being right why are we allowing the number 2 to be placed after the number 9? I am pointing out that you are allowing the left to control the dialogue even as you rail against it. There is no legitmate reason we should accept ownership of racists, Fascists and Nazi's as so-called "Right Wing Extremists" when they are perfectly aligned in philosophy and action with the left. It was Democrats that enslaved the black race, founded the KKK, enacted Jim Crow laws, firehosed civil rights marchers, started Planned Parenthood as a way to exterminate undesirables, etc. Why should we accept the people born out of that ideology into our house? As I pointed out the beliefs and actions of Washington, Adams, Madison, et al. when espoused by modern Americans immediately puts them in the RWE category with the skinheads. Except the skinheads only belong on the right in MSM land. I don’t mean the type as defined in the constitution but the type we have.
We don’t have constitutional government in America today and I don’t think anybody except the oldest among us can even remember what it was like when we did have it.
I want it back.
I want the federal government constrained.
I want them to poor to buy anything except military hardware.
I want them closing the borders to all but legal aliens.

If that makes me an RWE so be it. I proudly own membership in a group that would seem to include Jefferson, Adams and Madison.

My point, that you seem to miss, is that we must stop allowing the RWE designation to be applied to people that more closely resemble the leftist dictators, socialists, Marxists, Fascists, etc. of recent history.
A skinhead falls somewhere between Robert “KKK” Byrd and Adolf Hitler. Both socialist leftists.
If left to right were placed on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being left and 10 being right why are we allowing the number 2 to be placed after the number 9?
I am pointing out that you are allowing the left to control the dialogue even as you rail against it.
There is no legitmate reason we should accept ownership of racists, Fascists and Nazi’s as so-called “Right Wing Extremists” when they are perfectly aligned in philosophy and action with the left.
It was Democrats that enslaved the black race, founded the KKK, enacted Jim Crow laws, firehosed civil rights marchers, started Planned Parenthood as a way to exterminate undesirables, etc. Why should we accept the people born out of that ideology into our house?
As I pointed out the beliefs and actions of Washington, Adams, Madison, et al. when espoused by modern Americans immediately puts them in the RWE category with the skinheads. Except the skinheads only belong on the right in MSM land.

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-765 Amy Miller Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:14:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-765 ...the "reply to this" button is shunning me for some reason. Whoops. …the “reply to this” button is shunning me for some reason.

Whoops.

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-764 Amy Miller Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:58:33 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-764 ...or anti-government...or a Hitler-sympathizer...or pro-crazy taxes... ...why do you think the RWE points in this diary are directed at someone like you? Have a little common sense, please. …or anti-government…or a Hitler-sympathizer…or pro-crazy taxes…

…why do you think the RWE points in this diary are directed at someone like you? Have a little common sense, please.

]]> By: roguepolitics http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-762 roguepolitics Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:30:57 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-762 A skin head is a lot closer to Hitler the National SOCIALIST than he is to a far right candidate like George Washington. It is ridiculous to see Washingtonian style conservatives or even Jeffersonian conservatives painted as extremists by the MSM but it is worse to see them painted as such by center right conservatives. I certainly see myself as being in the far right crowd. That doesn't make me a racist but it does mean I want the federal government cut down to pre-1930 proportions. It does mean I don't want national health care or mandatory social security or taxes requiring me to fund a failed public school system. I want my guns left alone and my daughters too. As a rightwinger I cannot imagine any reason aside from my breaking the law or traveling internationally for the federal government to even know I exist. As a conservative I have no idea why the EPA, NEA, OSHA, DOE or DOT exit. I believe the Income Tax is evil in its conception, and even without it the federal government would have too much money. We don't need a fair tax or a flat tax, we need a No Direct Tax like the constitution said before it was perverted by Marxist thought. And we need people who can tell the difference between somebody who is far right (A Constitutionalist) and somebody who snuck in the back door with the help of the MSM. A skin head is a lot closer to Hitler the National SOCIALIST than he is to a far right candidate like George Washington.
It is ridiculous to see Washingtonian style conservatives or even Jeffersonian conservatives painted as extremists by the MSM but it is worse to see them painted as such by center right conservatives.
I certainly see myself as being in the far right crowd. That doesn’t make me a racist but it does mean I want the federal government cut down to pre-1930 proportions.
It does mean I don’t want national health care or mandatory social security or taxes requiring me to fund a failed public school system.
I want my guns left alone and my daughters too.
As a rightwinger I cannot imagine any reason aside from my breaking the law or traveling internationally for the federal government to even know I exist.
As a conservative I have no idea why the EPA, NEA, OSHA, DOE or DOT exit.
I believe the Income Tax is evil in its conception, and even without it the federal government would have too much money. We don’t need a fair tax or a flat tax, we need a No Direct Tax like the constitution said before it was perverted by Marxist thought.
And we need people who can tell the difference between somebody who is far right (A Constitutionalist) and somebody who snuck in the back door with the help of the MSM.

]]> By: roguepolitics http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-763 roguepolitics Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:30:57 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-763 A skin head is a lot closer to Hitler the National SOCIALIST than he is to a far right candidate like George Washington. It is ridiculous to see Washingtonian style conservatives or even Jeffersonian conservatives painted as extremists by the MSM but it is worse to see them painted as such by center right conservatives. I certainly see myself as being in the far right crowd. That doesn't make me a racist but it does mean I want the federal government cut down to pre-1930 proportions. It does mean I don't want national health care or mandatory social security or taxes requiring me to fund a failed public school system. I want my guns left alone and my daughters too. As a rightwinger I cannot imagine any reason aside from my breaking the law or traveling internationally for the federal government to even know I exist. As a conservative I have no idea why the EPA, NEA, OSHA, DOE or DOT exit. I believe the Income Tax is evil in its conception, and even without it the federal government would have too much money. We don't need a fair tax or a flat tax, we need a No Direct Tax like the constitution said before it was perverted by Marxist thought. And we need people who can tell the difference between somebody who is far right (A Constitutionalist) and somebody who snuck in the back door with the help of the MSM. A skin head is a lot closer to Hitler the National SOCIALIST than he is to a far right candidate like George Washington.
It is ridiculous to see Washingtonian style conservatives or even Jeffersonian conservatives painted as extremists by the MSM but it is worse to see them painted as such by center right conservatives.
I certainly see myself as being in the far right crowd. That doesn’t make me a racist but it does mean I want the federal government cut down to pre-1930 proportions.
It does mean I don’t want national health care or mandatory social security or taxes requiring me to fund a failed public school system.
I want my guns left alone and my daughters too.
As a rightwinger I cannot imagine any reason aside from my breaking the law or traveling internationally for the federal government to even know I exist.
As a conservative I have no idea why the EPA, NEA, OSHA, DOE or DOT exit.
I believe the Income Tax is evil in its conception, and even without it the federal government would have too much money. We don’t need a fair tax or a flat tax, we need a No Direct Tax like the constitution said before it was perverted by Marxist thought.
And we need people who can tell the difference between somebody who is far right (A Constitutionalist) and somebody who snuck in the back door with the help of the MSM.

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-761 Amy Miller Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:18:31 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-761 It's a disaster over there. My family left Europe because of it. I don't think that the Administration is ignorant of history. I just think that they're content to ignore it, so long as they gain power over every aspect of our economy. It’s a disaster over there. My family left Europe because of it.

I don’t think that the Administration is ignorant of history. I just think that they’re content to ignore it, so long as they gain power over every aspect of our economy.

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-760 Amy Miller Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:05 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-760 I did have to get over my inherent sense of inferiority and fear that you guys would further victimize me in ways unknown for no reason at all :o) I did have to get over my inherent sense of inferiority and fear that you guys would further victimize me in ways unknown for no reason at all :o )

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-759 Amy Miller Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:10:14 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-759 Could somebody step up and help me keep my ego in check? Thanks, recov :o) Could somebody step up and help me keep my ego in check?

Thanks, recov :o )

]]> By: olsmithie http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-758 olsmithie Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:28:05 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-758 That is happening, as we speak, in Britain to breast cancer patients. Well , actually that is an exaggeration. They do not get an apple. Well said, Amy. Regards That is happening, as we speak, in Britain to breast cancer patients.

Well , actually that is an exaggeration.

They do not get an apple.

Well said, Amy.

Regards

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-757 Amy Miller Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:37:13 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-757 And you're completely right about the violence on the left. I was just trying to create a stark contrast. (Also see my comment to LJ.) The violence on the left is frenzied, which makes it scary, and maybe even more dangerous than RWE violence. And you’re completely right about the violence on the left. I was just trying to create a stark contrast. (Also see my comment to LJ.) The violence on the left is frenzied, which makes it scary, and maybe even more dangerous than RWE violence.

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-756 Amy Miller Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:34:29 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-756 Especially the wallet part. Especially the wallet part.

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-755 Amy Miller Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:30:44 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-755 Every time I see a news story about stricter gun regulations, I always think to myself: we don't ban people from driving who put on mascara, talk on the cell phone, eat, and mess with the radio while driving down the road, so how can we justify banning guns because of a few idiots? Every time I see a news story about stricter gun regulations, I always think to myself: we don’t ban people from driving who put on mascara, talk on the cell phone, eat, and mess with the radio while driving down the road, so how can we justify banning guns because of a few idiots?

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-754 Amy Miller Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:20:07 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-754 ...but if I must, then I'll blame idiots at large :) I realize I didn't go far enough with the race issue, sorry 'bout that! …but if I must, then I’ll blame idiots at large :)
I realize I didn’t go far enough with the race issue, sorry ’bout that!

]]> By: LISA BULLOCK-HOCK http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-753 LISA BULLOCK-HOCK Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:04:59 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-753 Here is a link to a video of Harry Alford speaking to Bill O'Reilly about giving Barbara Boxer a smackdown. Mr. Alford had it right when he said that Barbara Boxer (and liberals like her) like poor black people--that are in their place. Boxer is a bumbling idiot who did not know how to react to this african american blasted her for bringing in race. She was elitist, and insulting to him. She deserved so richly what she got. I hope they keep playing it. Enjoy the video. Pass it to your friends. Write mainstream news media and tell them they should report this. http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=7130616&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ By the way you are right Al Gore is full of crap. He flies around on his private jet putting carbon into the atmosphere--its ok for him and no one else? When we were supposed to turn everything off in our homes for 3 hours to "save energy" he didn't. What a crock -- an inconvenient truth -- is really a convenient way to make $100million. Here is a link to a video of Harry Alford speaking to Bill O’Reilly about giving Barbara Boxer a smackdown. Mr. Alford had it right when he said that Barbara Boxer (and liberals like her) like poor black people–that are in their place. Boxer is a bumbling idiot who did not know how to react to this african american blasted her for bringing in race. She was elitist, and insulting to him. She deserved so richly what she got. I hope they keep playing it. Enjoy the video. Pass it to your friends. Write mainstream news media and tell them they should report this.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=7130616&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/

By the way you are right Al Gore is full of crap. He flies around on his private jet putting carbon into the atmosphere–its ok for him and no one else? When we were supposed to turn everything off in our homes for 3 hours to “save energy” he didn’t. What a crock — an inconvenient truth — is really a convenient way to make $100million.

]]> By: janis http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-752 janis Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:34:29 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-752 As in "Amy, you're a damn good writer, please do some more." As in “Amy, you’re a damn good writer, please do some more.”

]]> By: mbecker908 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-751 mbecker908 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:49:42 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-751 By: TNJim http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-750 TNJim Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:01:16 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-750 I always look forward to seeing a diary by you appear in the Member's diaries column. I know it will be a great read. Heartily reco'd! I always look forward to seeing a diary by you appear in the Member’s diaries column. I know it will be a great read. Heartily reco’d!

]]> By: rcov092 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-749 rcov092 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:45:21 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-749 but in your case, I am starting to rethink that position. Great Diary. but in your case, I am starting to rethink that position. Great Diary.

]]> By: LJ "Beaglescout" Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-748 LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:15:45 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-748 I thought it was the pravda media that did that, and aren't they 95% hard-left Democrat voters? I thought it was the pravda media that did that, and aren’t they 95% hard-left Democrat voters?

]]> By: LJ "Beaglescout" Miller http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/2009/07/20/when-lies-become-the-truth/#comment-747 LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:14:32 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/amymiller/?p=152#comment-747 They also have more than one socialist ideologue of a billionaire to fund all their ideological enforcer bully boys. Not only do the far left Dems and their pets get all the "mainstream" grant money, but they get the biggest ideological gifts as well because they are not shy about twisting the law and building self-serving non-profit foundations to be their slush funds. Even when they do something like publish a best-seller book, I am certain that most of the sales are to hard-left billionaires who buy up tons of books to fund their favorite hard-left politicians without running into the campaign finance limits. They also have more than one socialist ideologue of a billionaire to fund all their ideological enforcer bully boys. Not only do the far left Dems and their pets get all the “mainstream” grant money, but they get the biggest ideological gifts as well because they are not shy about twisting the law and building self-serving non-profit foundations to be their slush funds.

Even when they do something like publish a best-seller book, I am certain that most of the sales are to hard-left billionaires who buy up tons of books to fund their favorite hard-left politicians without running into the campaign finance limits.

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