NH: Lamontagne’s Second Amendment credibility issue


When Erick addressed the NH Senate race and cited a laundry list of Kelly Ayotte’s failings on Tuesday, I was moved to do some further research of my own. On the Second Amendment,his anonymous source stated:

Kelly actively lobbied Governor Lynch to veto an expansion of the Castle Doctrine, allowing people to protect themselves in their homes. Ovide has been a member of the NRA since 1992 and has earned A ratings from them.

I well remember that veto and it was symptomatic of the liberal agenda Lynch has pursued over the past six years. I’ve not been able to extract a clear reply from the Ayotte campaign on the matter – which would tend to affirm the allegation.

But in looking over the Ayotte web site and speaking to her political director, I discovered the "F" rating Lamontagne received from the NH Firearms Coalition and the reason for it: HB 1528 (filed in 1994 at his behest), which would bar firearms from school property. While superficially innocuous, the wording, often vague, would have barred possession of firearms across most of the state.  Although I attended the hearing on this terrible bill, I don’t remember the testimony – except, IIRC – no one testified  FOR it. Some of the testimony from the hearing transcripts is reproduced here, first from various Directors of GO-NH:

Article 2-A [ of the NH Constitution - ed. ] states that all people have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their family, their property and the state. I find this bill to be a flagrant, hideous attack on that constitutional  [sic] right.

. . . this bill will apply the term "safe school zones" not only to school property but also to any site of any field trip however transient its use for school purposes [ including the highways upon which the buses run - ed.] <snip> this bill will apply to home schools <snip> the term "legitimate purpose" at most applies only to rifles and shotguns during hunting season.

This bill potentially affects every gun owner in the state.

Then several private citizens spoke out, noting the vague wording would likely trap many innocents in technical violations, essentially bar hunters and CCW holders from most areas and was directly contrary to the provisions of both State & Federal Constitutions.

Now, I’m a cynical person where politicians are involved. Lamontagne joined the NRA in 1992. In 1994, he testified in support of this broad attack on civil liberty – INTRODUCED  ON  HIS  URGING  IN  HIS  WORDS – by identifying himself as ". . . a member of the NRA and GO-NH. " The timing of his memberships was auspicious in providing a cloak of righteousness to legislation extremely hostile to civil liberties and is not unlike G. H. W. Bush joining the NRA just before running for the Presidency and resigning a few years later when his FBI stooges were criticized for murdering members of the Weaver family in the Ruby Ridge incident.

For those who predicate their support for a candidate on the RTL issues (not a criticism of them, but an observation), Lamontagne has impeccable credentials. For those whose focus is wider, he has a lot of negative baggage and was blown away in his last state-wide election in 1996 while the (R) candidates took both the House seats and the Senate.

Nothing in Ayotte’s record is as offensive to firearms owners as this episode. She is by no means an ideal candidate for conservatives (I can think of several I would prefer), but she’s to the right of lame duck Judd "Silk Stocking" Gregg and the weird sisters of Maine. As a firearms owner, as someone who views the 2nd Amd as the true cornerstone of our liberty, I just can’t bring myself to support the person who instigated HB 1528.


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A prior RedState thread labeled this a bogus charge against Lamontagne

civil truth (Diary) Thursday, September 9th at 3:35AM EST (link)

This charge was discussed in the following thread in that post by Erick that you referenced in your diary here and the charge was refuted there – and the thread also discredited the NH Firearms Coalition that you so blithely appeal to as an authority.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/09/06/ovide-lamontagne-rising-in-new-hampshire/#comment-82366

You need to exercise due dilligence by reading through the comments before repeating this accusation as a diary – and refuting it if you disagree. Especially as your lengthy posting history repeatedly slamming Lamontage brings into doubt your bona fides.

How about giving readers a reason to support Ayotte on an analysis of her record rather than spreading dirt on Lamontage.

Or are you an undisclosed member of Ayotte’s campaign?

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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". . . the charge was refuted there."

america1st (Diary) Thursday, September 16th at 3:49PM EST (link)

Well, it would seem we have somewhat different standards of refutation, but certainly it was strongly disputed while the group was definitely challenged. The GO-NH comments I quoted in the hearing transcripts are valid and a matter of record.

I think you overlooked my introductory verbiage – I was looking for information about Ayotte’s memorandum when I encountered this. I remember the veto quite vividly and called (State Sen) Deb Reynolds to ask her if this was one of the “great ideas” she had attributed to johnny-boy squatter when she told me she was going to run for office.

I was not then nor am now a member of the Ayotte campaign organization in any capacity.

In point of fact, there was no candidate in the primary who inspired me to any enthusiasm.

I will say I was deeply impressed by Mr. Lamontagne’s gracious concession speech and promise of support. In this address he came off much less the Carrie Nation / John Brown absolutist I remember from past campaigns. The man does have class – and I do agree with him on most issues.

I would have supported him, also, had he won the primary. Who knows what 2014 may bring beyond the much desired political demise of wiggy jean?

Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.

 
 

To elaborate further

travelkingnh (Diary) Thursday, September 9th at 11:51PM EST (link)

I posted this comment “Completely rogue organization…..” in the above mention thread by Erick Erickson.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/09/06/ovide-lamontagne-rising-in-new-hampshire/#comment-82578

I won’t spend any more time talking about these buffoons……..as they are not worthy of further discussion. Anyone is free to contact the other two credible gun organizations mentioned for their opinion. Better yet, call anyone on Ovide’s “2nd Amendment Leaders for Ovide Team” http://ovide2010.com/?p=882………..or even better yet call Ralph Demicco – owner of Riley’s Sport Shop, Inc., the best known gun shop in the state.

Now, one of the problems with “rookie” candidates like Ayotte, is in their zest to try to win they make mistakes. Part of a candidate’s credibility is enhanced or diminished by those they use to bolster or demonstrate support. The Ayotte campaign made a mistake when they quickly touted their “highest rating” (B) from this bogus group directly on their website, in order to enhance their gun appeal, without actually knowing who they are and what baggage they carry. You might get away with that from the non-gun voter, but certainly not with those who know better. Attach yourself to disreputable people and you are most likely going to be damaged by it.

Would you automatically put up an endorsement or “highest rating” from either Rev. Al Sharpton or Rev. Gerimiah Wright on your website just because they are reverends before knowing something about who they are and what they stand for? I don’t think so.

 

I would add this post for review

travelkingnh (Diary) Friday, September 10th at 12:19AM EST (link)

http://granitegrok.com/blog/2010/09/a_guest_post_by_the_hon_paul_mirski_in_l.html

 

You will enjoy this one even more

travelkingnh (Diary) Friday, September 10th at 12:24AM EST (link)

From PGNH- Pro Gun New Hampshire

http://www.pgnh.org/grading_the_graders_the_nhfc_2010_primary_election_guide