The Obama green dreams have recently been awarded assistance by nearly forgotten former Republicans officials, desperate to find relevance. The collection of fifteen former governors, congressmen & agency officials are joining in with the President and Democrats who have long been of the opinion that the American public will only do what’s “right” if they are left with no other options. In the world of green, this translates into higher efficiency standards.
via Roll Call:
“I’m just very passionate about the environment,” said former Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (R-N.Y.), who spearheaded the letter to President Barack Obama. “We want the administration to know there are serious-minded Republicans who are well informed on the issue who urge him to take aggressive action.” (emphasis mine)
One wonders if half of this effort is just to get kudos for being “one of the good ones” when reading appeals such as Boehlert’s. But Boehlert and his fellow enlightened Republicans weren’t nearly done patting themselves on the back. The actual letter proudly reads like a group that has really done their research on an industry that is the lifeblood of our economy.
Strong, forward-looking standards for new vehicle fuel efficiency and emissions will provide industry with needed certainty for investment in new technologies while also driving reductions in oil consumption and carbon pollution that fuels climate change. In 2007, in response to overwhelming concerns about our oil dependency, Congress passed the bipartisan Energy Independence and Security Act (EISA) that required the first substantial increase in fuel economy standards in 25 years. In 2009, the Department of Transportation, Environmental Protection Agency and the State of California worked together to adopt standards that raised fuel economy to 35.5 mpg by 2016 for cars, pickups, minivans and sport utility vehicles. The final joint rule demonstrates that a single program to reduce oil consumption and carbon emissions can result in aggressive policy to meet the goals of both the EPA and the Clean Air Act and assure that we do not again lose valuable time in systemically improving fuel efficiency.
We strongly support the joint agency efforts to continue the success of these standards by strengthening vehicle standards for model years 2017 to 2025. Recent analysis by your agencies, as detailed in the October 2010 Notice of Intent and accompanying Technical Assessment Report, demonstrate that strong efficiency standards – with improvements of six percent annually – are achievable and cost-effective for consumers. We recommend that you promulgate aggressive standards for the 2017 to 2025 vehicles under a national program that will significantly reduce our oil dependence, cut pollution and fortify our economy and national security.
Unfortunately, the people that are actually in the industry, aren’t as impressed:
“There is clearly a special interest campaign to achieve a politically motivated fuel economy number that is not supported by the data,” said Gloria Bergquist, vice president of the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, which lists its members online as Chrysler, Ford, GM, Mazda, Porsche, Toyota, Volkswagen, BMW and others.
“Here, we are seeing former public officials sign onto a letter supporting a 100% increase in fuel economy. … In effect, ex-officials have come to a conclusion about what the current data means before the current Administration has even finished analyzing it. This is not how good policy occurs,” she said in a statement.
Here’s a simple translation of what it equates to: “Green Cars of the Year” for 2009 & 2010? Dirty polluters. Your Honda Civic Hybrid? Why don’t you just light children on fire? Chevrolet Volt? Don’t make me laugh. By 2025 that car will be the equivalent of driving a vehicle made completely of baby seals.
And you can forget about Trucks and SUVs which have been credited as the saving grace for companies like GM who avoided further hemorrhaging at the hands of the administration by ignoring the green demands that were made on them.
Luckily this is a group of the usual suspects for this type of pandering to the cool kids. But keep your eyes peeled. These days it seems there are more than a handful of Republicans that might find this same type of environmental social experimentation to be quite appealing.
Victoria Coates
Daniel Horowitz
Personally
rivahmitch Wednesday, June 22nd at 8:36PM EST (link)I’d like to see the full list of signatories so that I can support their opposition should any of them ever run for office again.
Ditto & more
get2djnow (Diary) Wednesday, June 22nd at 9:03PM EST (link)The evidence concerning all electric vehicles is clear: they cause more pollution than they prevent, but that won’t stop this list of busy-body do-gooders. The people wrapped up in bipartisanship are the GOPers who signed on to TARP & the like. They need to be defeated more than the Demonrats, because they sow seeds of confusion in a message that needs crystal clarity: capitalism works when government gets out of the way!
A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson (26 Mar 1984 – 28 Sep 2005) Killed by an IED during OEF, probably of Iranian origin, but aided by having predictably scheduled logistics convoys.
“And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you.” (Genesis 17:7)
“Lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward, for all the land which you see I will give to you and to your descendants forever.” (Genesis 13:14)
“For those who are with us here today before Hashem our God and (also) those who are not here with us today.” (Deuteronomy 29:14)
Bill Ruckelshaus just tweeted.
blooch Wednesday, June 22nd at 10:55PM EST (link)He’s running for president of the Tenant’s Board at Del Boca Vista Condos.
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
fuel
bcomber38 Thursday, June 23rd at 6:22AM EST (link)Yeah,what are the names of the greenies?We become self sufficent when we drill for our own oil,gas,and any thing else that burns.Electric cars cause pollution.Them batteries start stinking after awhile.Where does the electric come from that charges these green batteries.What a bunch of BSers.I’d like to smack those guys awake.
You can see the signers
LDahl752 (Diary) Wednesday, June 22nd at 9:22PM EST (link)if you click on “actual letter” in the third paragraph.
I think they are all has-beens and probably bordering on senility. But, that’s just my opinion, of course.
Linda D, Henderson NV
The names from the letter.
gekster (Diary) Wednesday, June 22nd at 10:00PM EST (link)Michael Castle
Former Gov Deleware, 1985-1992
US Congress, R-Deleware, 1993-2011
Jim Douglas
Former Gov Vermont
2003-2011
Christine Whitman
Former Gov New Jersy 1994-2001
EPA Administrator, George W Bush Admin.
Russel Train
EPA Administrator, Nixon & Ford Admin.
Bill Reilly
EPA Administrator, George H W Bush Admin.
Bill Ruckelshaus
EPA Administrator, Nixon & Reagan Admin.
Sherwood Boehlert
US Congress, R- New Youk, 2003-2007
Vernon Ehlers
US Congress, R Michigan, 1993-2011
Wayne Gilchrest
US Congress, R- Maryland, 1991-2009
Bemjamin Gilman
US Congress, R- New York, 1987-2007
Amory Houghton
US Congress, R-New York, 1987-2005
Connie Morella
US Congress, R-Maryland, 2003-2007
Jim Ranstad
US Congress, R-Minnesota, 1991-2009
Christopher Shays
US Congress, R- Conneticut, 1987-2009
Peter Smith
US Congress, R-Vermont, 1983-1987
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
And yet some people still think Castle should have been our Senate candidate in 2010
Finrod (Diary) Thursday, June 23rd at 2:14PM EST (link)Michael Castle
Former Gov Delaware, 1985-1992
US Congress, R-Delaware, 1993-2011
This kind of outright and blatant stupidity is why I’m glad this fool wasn’t our 2010 Senate candidate from Delaware. Not winning the seat is better than having this RINO in the Senate putting daggers in the back of the GOP.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
Would love to see a true conservative sponsor an amendment
SoFiMil (Diary) Wednesday, June 22nd at 9:30PM EST (link)(that he/she ultimately wouldn’t vote for) that fuel efficiency standards be raised 400%, as we’re *doomed* and 100% just doesn’t cut it.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
Since we're talking the realm of magic anyways
Finrod (Diary) Thursday, June 23rd at 2:16PM EST (link)Why not vote to raise fuel efficiency 1000% or 10,000% ? It would do as much good as the Utah legislature passing their infamous bill that the Great Salt Lake can’t get above a certain depth.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
As as a mechanical engineer...
DerKrieger (Diary) Wednesday, June 22nd at 9:47PM EST (link)…I want to see just one lefty publish his, or her, designs for a car that people will buy that has double the efficiency of current models.
I’d also like to ask one to do the math for wind or solar power. I’ve done ir so I know how ridiculous these sources are as serious alternatives.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
Please, please, please!
flicka47 (Diary) Wednesday, June 22nd at 10:37PM EST (link)What we need more than anything is physical, documentable proof as to why these”plans” just won’t work.
We really need folks like you to show why they don’t work, don’t exist, and in the real world can’t be built to do what these folks want to dream of.
Most folks just don’t understand the relationship between weight of a vehicle, and it’s horsepower, and it’s MPG. They truly believe if the auto industry wanted to they could build these dream cars. Someone(many folks in reality) know these cars can not be built as promised and have the knowledge and ability to acknowledge the truth. But it is not being done. It is past time to get that info out there to those who don’t understand the physics of the matter.
Please, please, please any of you who have this knowledge can do all of us a service by publishing the reality here. Those of us who understand it, but don’t have your training need your help to counter the wishful (or opportunistic?) dreamers like in this post that don’t seem to realise they are doing more damage than good.
You'll be waiting a long time ...
gafisher Thursday, June 23rd at 6:23AM EST (link)… for concrete solutions from the lefties. They don’t DO reality, they just legislate.
THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK....ITS RISE OF THE RINOS....First it's McCain and his brokeback buddy little miss Lindsey
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, June 23rd at 12:04AM EST (link)berating Republican candidates for supposed isolationism….now it’s the green weenies in the ivory tower new england establishment….
They’ve watched the rise of the Tea Party with horror and recoiled at the riff raff who drove the 2010 elections and now they’re getting their licks in…
It is always the same with the me too crowd.
Next on the agenda will be tax increases and debt limit increases coupled to bailouts…stimulus II and the usual drive about how their beloved Republican Party is being driven to the right by a bunch of knuckle dragging extremists…
it happens every 4 years…..every convention and platform fight is proclaimed as a war for the SOUL of the Republican Party
nothing new here folks….nothing to see….please move along!
Ex nihilo
gafisher Thursday, June 23rd at 6:34AM EST (link)As one who works in the automotive industry I was asked recently why car manufacturers don’t take an all-electric chassis like the Leaf and add a generator so the car could simply recharge its own battery while driving, requiring no external power. I explained that this would amount to perpetual motion and briefly summarized the Laws of Thermodynamics.
My questioner responded by asking why Congress doesn’t just repeal those laws.
Some of the people who signed that letter (Vern Ehlers, can you hear me?) ought to know mechanical efficiency is not subject to the laws of men.
Next time you get a stupid response like that
Finrod (Diary) Thursday, June 23rd at 2:19PM EST (link)Tell them that if we could just repeal the Law of Gravity then we could just float along the highway. No hydrocarbons needed at all!
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
No new light bulbs, no battery cars.
sowa1 Thursday, June 23rd at 6:38AM EST (link)Leave us alone. The people will decide which light bulb to use or what kind of car we want to buy. The new, smaller cars do not fit out families, they are dangerous to drive and very expensive. They also use electricity which will cost a fortune because of Obama’s destroying the coal producing industry. There is NO global warming period. When I buy a new car (just paid off my last one) it will be a gas powered one.
If Americans need imposed standards to get them to act...
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, June 23rd at 1:47PM EST (link)Then why not try a few others?
Cut food stamps until recipients bring down their weight, their sodium and their cholesterol.
Cut educational budgets until schools improve student scores.
Cut the budgets of the DEA and the BATF until drug and alcohol use drops.
Cut the funding of Legal Services and the Justice dept until torts decline.
Cut government workers pay and benefits until the budget is balanced.
After all, people respond to incentives.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Power corrupts
superamerican (Diary) Thursday, June 23rd at 10:47PM EST (link)So they want less power in cars from less fuel used? I am just disgusted as is Tom Paine, George Washington, Madison, Hamilton, Jefferson. They are rolling over in their graves. We’ll be walking in poverty in 50 years. All of us equal. The green oligarchs in power. We will starve. Only we can stop this. Vote anyone but Obama. Vote any conservative, then any Republican, then don’t vote for Congress. It is the Second Civil War and America is losing.