While it’s certainly the case that a University may host an event paneled by individuals that the University leadership does not agree with or even may find reprehensible, it starts to look more like endorsement when they get into the habit of tossing law abiding citizens for asking questions of the University guest that may be uncomfortable.
Such was the case in the almost universally overlooked incident that took place at the University of Central Florida (UCF) in November of last year.
John Guandolo at Big Peace describes what is taking place:
It captures a member of the Florida community, Randy McDaniels (Chapter Leader, ACT! for America), asking a pointed question to Jamal Badawi about Islamic Law based on facts sited from the Islamic Law book McDaniels is holding during the exchange – Islamic Law which was approved by the Fiqh Council of North America of which Badawi is a member. McDaniels is forcefully removed by uniformed police at the event for asking this question. Where are we today in America when a university will warmly welcome terrorists, and forcefully remove Americans who challenge them?
The question that Mr. McDaniels is asking is related to Islamic law, specifically a book translated to english called “Reliance of the Traveller: The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law Umdat Al-Salik,” which, as McDaniels points out, is accepted by the Fiqh Academy at Jedda and the Fiqh Council of North America as “a valuable and important work, whether as a textbook for teaching Islamic jurisprudence to English-speakers, or as a legal reference for use by scholars, educated laymen, and students in this language.” Since Badawi, the panelist at the UFC event, sits on the Fiqh Council which literally put their stamp of approval inside the book, McDaniels asks if he, as result, endorses the laws in the book which calls for the stoning and execution of apostates who leave Islam as well as all non-Muslims.
Even though Mr. McDaniels asks his question in a completely calm manner and then proceeds to sit and listen to the response, he is in short order, asked to leave and then eventually forcibly removed from the event. The best that apologists seem to be able to come up with as justification is that there were panel rules expressed at the beginning of the event which apparently must have made clear that no questions which might detract from the propaganda being spewed by this Hamas co-conspirator is to be allowed.
As noted, the media is essentially silent on this issue as apparently, it’s only freedom of speech if you are throwing pies at Ann Coulter or ransacking the stage when a member of the Minute Men is speaking at our sacred universities.
However, the reason for the censorship in this case appears far more devious than typical political correctness.
As was noted at Redstate recently, this Friday the UCF will again host radicals as Sirhaj Wahajj, another unindicted co-conspirator, this time for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, will be speaking to the university. Hopefully Mr. McDaniels will again be there to do the work that the mainstream media will not.
And the designation “unindicted co-conspirator” should not cause you to feel any less concern about folks like Badawi and Wahajj. Badawi was on the Board of Directors of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States (a Hamas front group) and was listed as a coconspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Trial, otherwise known as the largest terrorism fundraising trial in American History.
Wahajj testified on behalf of Omar Abdel Rahman, known by most as the Blind Sheikh.
So then why weren’t they found guilty? Better question is “why weren’t they found innocent?” As the Judge in the HLF Trial noted in his opinion:
The Government has produced ample evidence to establish the associations of CAIR, ISNA and NAIT with HLF, the Islamic Association for Palestine (“IAP”), and with Hamas. While the Court recognizes that the evidence produced by the Government largely predates the HLF designation date, the evidence is nonetheless sufficient to show the association of these entities with HLF, IAP, and Hamas. (emphasis mine)
Maybe UCF is inviting these men to speak purely for educational reasons? Without passing judgement on what they are saying? Aside from the tossing of any who question them, there’s a far worse reason to believe that it is something else.
To quote the Muslim Brotherhood:
The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.
The panel that Badawi, and now Wahajj, are invited to speak on is organized by the campus group Muslim Students Association (MSA). In 1963, the MSA was created at the University of Illinios by an Islamic interest group. You may have heard of them … The Muslim Brotherhood.
Cross-Posted at Liberty Pundits

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anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Thursday, February 24th at 12:02PM EST (link)Sue them into oblivion.
Sue the person who made the request for him to leave and the decision to have him removed from the event.
I’m sure there is some legal argument like the 1st Amendment or something about supporting and promoting terrorism/insurrection etc.
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
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Take your kids out of UCF
rel01 Thursday, February 24th at 12:07PM EST (link)Why would any parent want their child to go to this propaganda school to hear only one side of the story?
Parents: TAKE YOUR KIDS OUT NOW !!!!!!!!!!
UCF President
jubalaearly Friday, February 25th at 9:52AM EST (link)Ho Ho the Pres has got to Go! This is a typical “Progressive-Socialist ” College President. He is the one responsible for the Campus Police that broke the law!
Watch out for police who have no knowledge of Constitutional Rights and just follow orders. Understand the police are to maintain order not freedom, and the definition of order comes from their boss.
Police do not question orders,they like their jobs too much.
USF in Tampa is probably worse than UCF in Orlando for political correctness-socialism-muslim domination of free speech.
Randy McDaniels made a small tactical error:
romeg Thursday, February 24th at 1:25PM EST (link)He forgot to cry out “Don’t taze me Bro!”
Had he done that, perhaps the MSLM would have considered it newsworthy and drawn more attention to it.
“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis
I'm ashamed of my alma mater.
uselogic Thursday, February 24th at 1:54PM EST (link)Didn’t know this was going on over there. Thanks for the update, Ben!
I’d already stopped giving them money over some other slights but now I’ll pass this on to every alum I know. MSA has always been an indoctrination group, not an outreach group.
I am tired of the increasing number of unindicted co-conspirators in this country.
Locked and Loaded (Diary) Thursday, February 24th at 4:27PM EST (link)Especially those of the Moslem persuasion.
Did I miss something?
jb13 (Diary) Thursday, February 24th at 4:38PM EST (link)Ben, a little more than midway through your piece, you say this:
“However, the reason for the censorship in this case appears far more devious than typical political correctness.”
In examining what comes after (and rereading it several times, just to make sure), I see nothing in your post to lead me to believe that the administration at UCF is little more than the useful politically correct idiots that Islamists desire in America.
Honestly, I was expecting you to demonstrate that some radical Islamists are in positions of leadership at UCF, or that the radical Islamist groups are big booster at UCF. But no such links are established.
I agree the behavior toward the Islamists and toward those who exercise their free speech rights in asking questions of them in the American fashion is deplorable. And the leadership at UCF should be made to answer for this. So, please don’t misunderstand.
But I was expecting you to demonstrate something great and terrible, as the case may be. And it may be there. I’ve missed things before. But I’m just curious why you used the rest of your piece to point out what most of us here at Redstate already believe and know: That Islamists in America are bent on the destruction of America and the forcible installation of Islamic law throughout the globe.
I guess it depends on your view of 'devious'
Ben Howe (Diary) Thursday, February 24th at 6:09PM EST (link)A man at UCF is being silenced by a University approved organization who was founded by and invites people from the Muslim Brotherhood, which is an organization who’s stated purpose is “eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ’sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands”
If ensuring the goal of world domination through infiltration of our society isn’t more devious than political correctness in terms of motivation for censorship, then I guess my article is lacking.
You can always find people to give you the answers that you think reinforce the facts you’ve already decided are true.
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A local take...
tomtflorida (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 6:01AM EST (link)As a local who has followed this story closely and has in fact posted on it here at RS –
http://www.redstate.com/tomtflorida/2011/02/21/radical-muslim-imam-to-speak-at-florida-college/
…I can attest that this is not the first that UCF has been down this path, as is noted in the link above. I can also tell you that what you see on video above pales in comparison to how these individuals were treated outside, once they were removed. There were others removed prior to this video being shot, all being part of the group Act For America. I spoke with one of these individuals just last night who told me that they were cursed and callled every vile name imaginable once outside. There is more video that has not been released as potential legal action is pending..
I’ve also been driving a campaign to contact the school in opposition to Wahhaj’ appearance tonight and the standard line callers are receiving is that “UCF is a ‘free speech’ school”, which is a bit ironic based on the video above.
One last note, the UCF Muslim Student Association has been given the opportunity to feature true Muslim reformers such as Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, to which they’ve responded with absolute silence.
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Brown Shirt Politics
KingstonJW (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 12:32PM EST (link)There were a couple of things I did notice:
First, the woman at the table did try to reset the stage and encourage a broader view of the rules. I presume this was the UCF moderator. Perhaps too little too late but the action was quick.
Second, McDaniels was calm and polite but also insistent to argue his point, which may have been a violation of the “rules.” This article should have included a reference to the rules.
Regardless of these two observations, I did find the whole scene deplorable. Whomever ordered the removal of McDaniels pulled the trigger rather quickly and is reminiscent of what I will call Brown Shirt politics. This was not a “disturbance” that needed to be removed but a discussion – as was noted by the moderator.
The biggest questions I have about this revolve around why. Why would UCF allow for such an indoctrination with such restrictive rules? Why would they not have better supervision? They knew or should have known it was a controversial subject (Police were there). Why does UCF invite criminal elements to an institution of higher learning?
Islamic fascism and Sharia are dangerous ideas that deserve the closest scrutiny. UCF seems to have failed in its obligations to students and parents…. and to the country.
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Who removed him?
Adjoran (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 4:08AM EST (link)And why?
Those who did the deed should explain it, including who directed their actions.
None Dare Call It Treason!
CJB68 Friday, February 25th at 6:34AM EST (link)I recall my father having a little book titled None Dare Call It Treason! It outlined the communist movement in the United States during the Vietnam War and the height of the so-called “Cold War” between us and the Soviet Union. It got lost somewhere, but I do want to find it someday and read it. It has a lot to do with the current climate of “Political Correctness” that is playing into the hands of these would-be ghazis in our midst.
To this day, I look upon our so-called “institutions of higher learning” with a mixture of contempt and ridicule. They’re festering sores of Left-wing radicalism and anti-American police states where anyone who has an opinion that runs against the cliques controlling the places will be harrassed into submission or expelled. “How long,” I may ask, “Before we’re forced to expel them?”
On the term “ghazi” (spelled “gah-ZEE”), that was used by the Turks in late medieval times when they were setting up the Ottoman Empire on the ruins of what was once the eastern Roman empire. It designated their roles as Islamic holy warriors who penetrated the religious frontiers and waged perpetual war against non-muslim peoples beyond them. We all know what happened over time — the Ottoman Turks finally captured Constantinople and became a source of terror for the peoples of the Danube river valley and Mediterranean, until that old bugaboo of empires, stagnation and corruption set in and (thankfully) made them weaker.
These guys know we have no shortage of malicous individuals masquerading as “intellectuals” in our midst, doing whatever they can to undermine our countries. Who knows what these creatures expect from their new masters? A convenient lessening of the jiziyah tax? A free pass on apostacy if they “convert”?
It seems that Islamists and communists do think very much alike, abiding by that old proverb: the enemy of my enemy is my ally.
Delusional and Arrogant. The Modern Democratic Philosophy.
Seems like it is time for the Florida Legislature to
davesinsanantonio (Diary) Friday, February 25th at 6:52AM EST (link)de-fund UCF, or at least the parts that sponsor this sort of thing. Write or call your legislator.
Introductions required!
tpiscatella Friday, February 25th at 9:47AM EST (link)Unless Americans have had their heads buried in the sand for the last 10 years, we know what the aim of every Muslim group is. I think that the solution to the problem is not creating more platforms for them to preach from, but to introduce them as quickly as possible to their seventy two virgins, POST HASTE!
Islam is NOT a religion, it is a Theo-political ideology intent on destroying this country’s values and inserting it’s form of law
By what name are the 72 virgins known?
myron_j_poltroonian Friday, February 25th at 12:30PM EST (link)“A Flock of Sheep”
Universities of Indoctrination Show Obvious Biases!
rubicon01 Sunday, February 27th at 3:16PM EST (link)OK… on the 72 virgins thing. First of all, only an oppressive society would be able to find 72 virgins. (I know, totally chauvinistic & all). Second, why would any woman want to be part of a society that requires her to be a submissive sexual vessel to some nut, after she is dead?? Do women get 72 virgins? Are they male or are they required to put on girl on girl shows for the boys??
Enough of that crap. I understand inviting controversial speakers. I even agree. However, based on academic institutional responses to right wing speakers, that in this case the questioner from the audience was expelled, is confusing. In many other right wing cases, those speakers were shut down, in fear of their personal safety, and heckled beyond possible reason, with no intervention by the universities involved, at all… or other than to escort the right wing speaker out!
These actions at our higher educational institutions, shows the public that there is no reason for public money, taxpayers money, to be spent on or provided to these institutions. If the speech &/or questions of right wingers are unacceptable, then the preachings of the left & radical terrorist sponsors are also unacceptable. If these institutions plan to sponsor the leftist talk & silence the right wing talk, then the institutions need to pay the price of no more support!
W/ an federal Attorney General who fails to finish the prosecution of voter intimidation activists (PA Black Panther intimidation case in Philly suburb), the possibility he would investigate the violations of speech and/or association, the biased use of public funds, the biased support of groups who vow an anti-American attitude & who in this case actually support anti-American terrorists or terrorism sponsors, is non existent. It proves, legally, we can expect nothing from our government until this administration is replaced.
I cannot accept the notion we deserve these treatments, nor that we are guilty of horrible crimes warranting such treatments, nor that it is America alone who is guilty & no other nation or peoples. Additionally, it is NOT the responsibility of the government to determine our guilt and to then go about imposing or permitting the imposition of punishments or paybacks, according to some federal bureaucrats formula for reparation.
America’s failures, and yes we have them, do not represent failures among mankind that dwarf any others. We are among others, equal. Our crimes are no better nor no worse.
But it is “we” who will determine our guilt or innocence & it is “we” who will determine our penance, if any!
Jimmy Carter also lectured us. He was sent home when Reagan won in a landslide. Perhaps Obama faces the same result? Perhaps not. Many will vote for him again, thinking we owe this to blacks. I say, payments are to be made only if the public decides we owe them. Otherwise, we owe nothing to Obama. There are other significantly more qualified blacks who could easily out do Obama & show America what real leadership is. Obama ain’t it!