There’s been a series of very nice photos going on called 52 to 48 which began with some Obama supporters (52% of the nation) sending a message to the rest of us (48% of the nation.) It’s a somewhat simplistic collage, but with a good message of understanding and mutual love on what binds us together: our common Americanism. It’s a sweet sentiment.
But some of my colleagues in the conservative blogosphere aren’t feeling it. Bob Owens over at Confederate Yankee writes:
Yes, I saw your messages. Dozens and dozens of them. How wonderful that you want to reach out now, after the last eight years.
You do remember the last eight years, right?
You lost in Florida. Remember how you reacted? “Selected, not elected,” and “Not my President” were the order of the day. But that was just the beginning. You kept nursing your grudge, cultivating it, stocking it, and formed insular, community-based realities to echo and increase your hysteria…
And so it is very obvious that you want us to buy into his Presidency not because you want us to share his great visions of hope and change and unicorns, but because you’ve suddenly realized what kind of disaster you put into the White House. You don’t want to share success; you want cover when it all comes apart.
So enjoy your two years of unquestioned power, 52. We’ll see you at the midterms, and see if you’re still smiling and reaching out when it isn’t so self-serving.
Bob, I love you like a brother who I’ve never met and link to twice a year, but have you seen some of the kids in this montage? Some of them look like they were 11 in 2000, if that.
I have news. Not everybody who voted for Barack Obama was in the streets screaming bloody murder about Florida. Political activists are a small slice of the population. The Majority of this country takes a passing interest in politics, with time spent on the subject being measured in minutes or hours, not days like for your average political blogger.
You average “52″ voter isn’t rabid about their politics. They aren’t enemies. Heck, they aren’t even our opponents. Many of these folks will go on to vote Republican. Many are open to persuasion. Our problem is that for too long we haven’t even bothered with an argument, and our current administration hasn’t helped.
While I’m not buying into this administration, I will buy into the concept of respectful debate and engagement. And I appreciate the thought behind the gesture.
Daniel Horowitz
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
Jake Walker
Color me skeptical...
Bill S (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:08PM EST (link)…but IMHO, if it had been McCain that won, the odds that “the 48″ would respond as you are are a zillion to one. We’d still have sandbags in front of our doors and rifles in our hands, fighting off the rioters. There ain’t no way they’d have an ounce of civility about them.
I find those pictures condescending, at best.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Sorry Adam, gotta go with Bob
JPH (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:11PM EST (link)There is no way in the world I’m letting the past 8 years go unanswered. You reap what you sow.
But
adamsweb (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:14PM EST (link)Has everyone in that collage been sowing? That’s the question.
555!
JPH (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:20PM EST (link)n/t
Tell me this, adam
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:22PM EST (link)Has anyone in the collage apologized for the way Bush and the right has been treated for EIGHT FREAKING YEARS?
Has anyone in the collage taken on the part of THEIR party that ransacks churches, throws bleach in the eyes of GOP convention goers, tries to provoke violence then record it like the gutless jerks that they are?
Has anyone in the collage gone to Minnesota and said, “I am not going to let the Democrats and Al Franken literally steal a Senate seat?”
Hell no, they haven’t. And they want to make nice NOW? Sure they do.
Forget about it. Nice try, 52.
No
Michael DeWeese (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:31PM EST (link)But they where raised in an atmosphers of the visceral attacks on the Bush administration and turned by the enemy (parents, teachers, community organizers)into lemmings following the dear leader. They are the mindless foot soldiers of the dear leader and may not ever be brought to their senses without hard core deprogramming. Liveing with their choice and accepting sole responsibility for it should be a first step. I for one am not going to kiss and make up and become a partner in the responseability for the disaster of their decision.
Brain Dead Republican
and so they need help
Michael DeWeese (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:35PM EST (link)Realizing what they may have wrought, they seek help and support from the ones that have the guns and guts to fight back.
Brain Dead Republican
That's Why They are Being so Kind To Palin, Right
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:45PM EST (link)eight years of ugly poltical discourse, but no that they are in power they are urging everyone to show magnanimity and unity. Let bygones be bygones, (until a Republican is elected).
Don’t be a sucker. 52 may not be the enemy but about 40 is the enemy. A true treasonous American hating enemy
Again
adamsweb (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 9:49PM EST (link)Do you not see that the entire 52% of the American populace that voted for Obama is not behind attacks on Palin? Is not behind attacks on Bush?
As for the fact that nobody’s apologized, do you go around apologizing for what unhinged people on the right do? I don’t. These guys have been snoozin’.
Who here thinks that half of those 52ers have pics of Sarah Palin being beaten...
Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:02PM EST (link)…on their hard drives?
And that they’re saving them for 2012?
No justice?
No peace.
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I said about 40 not 52, I'll Give 12 percent a break n/t
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:13PM EST (link)n/t
hook down Adam's gullet
Freedoms Truth (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:16PM EST (link)Adam dont be clueless and naive, dont be such a sucker. They got the hook down the gullet on you. Adam, I agree that ’52′ are not the enemy, but these messages are transparently gloating and narcissistic attempts to SHUT UP CONSERVATIVE OPPOSITION TO OBAMA and if you cant see through that, you are sorely lacking in understanding the many ways of dangerous psychological manipulation of the Obama minions.
If they lose, they become these ranting vile Sore Loserman bastards… like Gloria Allred suing to overturn the 52-48 win for marriage in Cali, or the disgusting saddleback protesters who viciously attacked churchgoers – where was the gracious concession on that?!?!
You think its just a few unhinged leftists who have been behind the Bush-hating the Palin-hating. gimme a break! What about Obama’s 100year-war smear, his smear about McCain’s email?
If they win they … GLOAT. This is fullboard gloating from the same narcissistic boneheads who did the silly “We are sorry” after the 2004 election. remember that? Stupid pictures of Kerry supporters telling the world ‘we are sorry the rest of America are stupid knuckle-draggers’ etc. IT’S ALL NARCISSISTIC PUBLICITY STUNTS TO ADVANCE THEIR MESSAGE.
This is rubbing in the salt … HARD.
52 to 48 “You lost, ha ha ha. now after I kneecapped you, lets make up so I can use your injured body as a foot stool and laugh about you to my friends.”
This is about assimilating the opposition. say whatever to get folks to throw in the towel. say whatever to get folks to no challenge the powers-that-be that will drive America off a cliff of leftism. THEY ARE GIVING UP NO POWER BUT ARE ENTICING YOU TO GIVE UP YOURS! What power is that, you ask? THE POWER TO DISSENT!
Our only ability now is our efforts to DISRUPT AND DISTURB THE ‘CONSENSUS’ THROUGH DISSENT. The left knows this. They have used dissent and non-democrat actions for years to get their way even when they didnt have votes in the lege. They are trying to lull you into submission so that YOU DONT USE THAT POWER EITHER.
Nothing would make the left happier to have us conservatives ‘give up’, act like there is no hope, and crawl under rocks. The ‘reaching out message’ is a message that says “Hey, leave us alone to run everything and you act like you like it too.”
Here is my response:
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“48 to 52: JOIN ME IN THE GLORIOUS QUEST TO STOP OBAMA’S SOCIALISM AND SAVE AMERICAN FREEDOM.”**##
… and if you won’t join me, up yours.”
Freedoms Truth,
Travis Monitor – http://travismonitor.blogspot.com
Austin, TX
You just don't get it adam
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:22PM EST (link)The people that make me feel the way that I do about this are not unhinged.
They are the commentators I saw every day for eight long years on every single news broadcast.
They are the writers in every single big-city daily paper and every single major magazine in the United States, every single solitary day. Hell, *Men’s Health *even had a hit piece on John McCain.
They are the uncountable jackasses with their little bumper stickers – “1/20/09″ and “Bush Lied, People Died” and “F – The President” and on and friggin on and frigging on. Seen any of those, adam?
They include most of the “52″.
And you come here and peddle some kind of pathetic little olive branch from “52″ when I have gotten a finger in both eyes every day for eight long years? This is insulting, and weak, and way too damn late.
I hate to be picky, but
Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:22PM EST (link)It was 53-46. Seven is greater than four. I wonder why my side can’t count.
As one of the 53, I’m happy to talk with you folks among the 46. I don’t hate you guys, and I’ve been here the last seven months because I find the dialog to be a positive good.
I’m a lying troll.
Useless idiots vs. useless morons
Next93 (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:24PM EST (link)The 40% that voted for Obama knowing what he is are “useful idiots” (i.e. the enemy). The 12% that voted for him without bothering to find out what he is are useless morons.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
I sense a business opportunity
Next93 (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:28PM EST (link)You know all those bumber stickers that say “question authority” and “not MY president!”?
Just think how much money you could make selling razor blades to the anarchists right now!
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
Who...
Texas Tom Monday, November 10th at 10:29PM EST (link)Among the 52 stood up for Sarah when she was shamefully attacked?
Who among the 52 called out the radical leftists that worked to destroy the voting process?
Who among the 52 gave voice in protest of the media bias and deception that characterized this election?
Did they say stop? Did they stand up for fairness and civility toward their fellow Americans?
No, no and again no!
To condone is to participate. Forgive? Sure, when they see their error and ask for the compassion they would not show us or our friends.
Until then, they can stuff it and stay out of my way.
I feel more like I do now, than when I got here…Anon. NAF Diego Garcia, BIOT, 1982. Defending Reagan’s America.
Sweeping generalizations are seldom 100% accurate
Bill S (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:34PM EST (link)You have been a fairly decent lefty, Han. We won’t fault you for the sins of The
5253.“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
You could be right
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:34PM EST (link)Although I hope they keep them around for when Obama breaks their wittle hearts.
WOSG, what's in this for you?
Texas Tom Monday, November 10th at 10:35PM EST (link)I don’t want to be picky, but that is just what I will do.
I don’t want to sow dissent, but that is what I shall do.
I don’t have any hard feelings only because I won.
I want to get along until your view of the world may interfere with my view.
Screw you and your Tulip Mania (look it up).
I feel more like I do now, than when I got here…Anon. NAF Diego Garcia, BIOT, 1982. Defending Reagan’s America.
Joining them
Kyle-MI (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:36PM EST (link)By claiming to be part of the 53 (or 52 or whatever) you are joining with the 40 who have hated Bush and conservatives the last 8 years and have poisoned the political landscape. The name implies unity and common cause. It is too late and disingenuous to make nice now.
I make my associations
Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:40PM EST (link)Much as you do. I evaluate the good and bad that go along with it and make a judgment call.
I won’t judge you by the worst of the folks on your side of the aisle. I’ll judge you for YOU. I don’t play association games. Your actions stand on their own, or they don’t.
I’m a lying troll.
Correction ...
Texas Tom Monday, November 10th at 10:40PM EST (link)This is for Hans below.
I feel more like I do now, than when I got here…Anon. NAF Diego Garcia, BIOT, 1982. Defending Reagan’s America.
Lay with dogs, dude!
Texas Tom Monday, November 10th at 10:42PM EST (link)n/t
I feel more like I do now, than when I got here…Anon. NAF Diego Garcia, BIOT, 1982. Defending Reagan’s America.
Won't need them in 2012
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:43PM EST (link)By that time, Obama will have had them all move to Guyana.
Are you part of the 40 or the 13 in that 53%?
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:53PM EST (link)n/t
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
"The Unity Fantasy"
Bill S (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 10:56PM EST (link)Good article from The Weekly Standard
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
That's a bit like asking
Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:03PM EST (link)when I stopped beating my fiance. I don’t know that I like the assumptions built into your question.
I will say this to you. The fact that I’ve been here for seven months is all the answer you should need. I disagree with you folks very, very strongly on most of the issues of the day. I raise my voice just as loudly, just as surely, as any of you, but in opposition to you.
But I don’t hate you. As a younger man I might have, but it isn’t in me. Believing you to be wrong does not lead me to believe you to be evil.
No, I don’t hate President Bush. However, if you’d like an idea of how I’ve viewed him these last years…I expect the next eight might give you some idea.
I’m a lying troll.
Then I will break my previous vow
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:09PM EST (link)Just exactly what you are doing here?
I am pretty sure I know the answer, but I won’t stick around for the noble martyr bit.
Again with the loaded questions
Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:19PM EST (link)I’m here because I learn from you guys. I’ve been persuaded on two issues by you folks at RedState.
“Noble martyr?” It says a lot about you that that’s how you see my posts. Had it ever occurred to you that some of your countrymen on the left might want to chat with you?
I’m a lying troll.
I don't hate you either...
izoneguy (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:21PM EST (link)…I just want to know if you will honestly do a true assessment
of the Obama presidency as it rolls along. If you do then you are probably in the 13%. If you don’t and believe that Obama can do no wrong then you are probably in the 40% and that will be a harder acorn to crack.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
I've disagreed with him before
Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:22PM EST (link)And I likely will in the future. No candidate nor elected official will ever fully represent my views (unless it’s me). I’ll be critical of President Obama from time to time, I’m sure.
I’m a lying troll.
It's not a good article, it is an excellent aticle
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:24PM EST (link)I remember well the Reagan years, and how the constant, whining liberal opposition gave him the opportunity to deliver the best line I ever heard him give at the 1988 R convention – this is from memory, so it may not be word for word – “When I hear of how we won the cold war, I wonder who the “we” is they’re talking about?”.
Sure
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:33PM EST (link)First of all I am just not sure what country you all are talking about when you say “countrymen”. Is it the country that the founders began, or the country that you long for it to become?
And I think the only chatting I am willing to do with my liberal “countrymen” is to point out every mistake Barack Obama makes, every gaffe the dunce Joe Biden spews, and what idiots they are for overlooking what any fool could see because they thought it would be super-cool neat-o and SOOO inspiring to have a black president. How about that? Sound familiar? It does to me.
Good night.
Jack Savage, that's your call
Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Monday, November 10th at 11:39PM EST (link)I hope you understand I didn’t go into the Bush Administration years with that attitude and I won’t go into the next Republican administration that way, but whatever works for you.
I also won’t put “countrymen” in “quotes” in reference to people in your party just because I think you’re wrong.
You really don’t see the problem there, do you? I salute the same flag and cherish the same values, whether you believe it or not. It really begins and ends with one simple thing:
We disagree on how best to get from A to B.
I’m a lying troll.
That's the premise under which we must operate for the next 4 years.
Steph C (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 5:40AM EST (link)They wanted it, now they must own it completely.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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No you don't
Jack_Savage (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 8:14AM EST (link)“…and cherish the same values…”
No you don’t.
Well adam I will respectfully disagree with you...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 8:21AM EST (link)and out and out with NO respect go after 52….give me a freakin break…the Imitation Christ wins AND WE have to be NICE….yeah that dog ain’t going to HUNT here….nice try though….you keep on working on that NEW TONE and see how it works for you….as for ME my NEW TONE is nasty and in your face!
It is as simple as those 52 will get the EXACT same respect for their American idiot President as WE got for our President….karma SUCKS and they need to SUCK IT UP…..Now is our turn!
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Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Tuesday, November 11th at 9:55AM EST (link)Of the 53 or 52, you say 40? I put the onus on all of them because they failed to stand up and say stop.
For 8 years I have watched the 53, 52 or 40 act as small children throwing a tantrum when they did get their ice cream cone. The lies, the hysteria, the sliming thrown in the faces of conservatives for just being conservatives.
I have watched the 53, 52, or 40 use our military as political pawns calling them losers, murders, Nazis, uneducated and inhuman, not recognizing the sacrifices given and the successes achieved.
I have watched this group malign a sitting President with the most horrific verbiage and actions. Movies showing his assisination, vile commentaries on his intelligence and wishes for his death.
I have watched the values of personal accountability and responsibility erode through the vitrolic chants of the 53 for partial birth abortion and other issues impacting human life.
I have watched the 53 gleefully savage our candidates without stepping in to challenge the MSM and their leaders about the truthfulness of information.
For the last eight years, the 53 have clawed and stratched at our eyes and our backs to get their way.
I have a gesture for the 53, but it isn’t reaching across the aisle.
To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher