We don’t need deranged Palin haters and RINO traitors.

Adios Arty.

I’ve enjoyed some of your posts over the last months. What’s sad is that you are departing with the same lack of class exhibited by Lisa Murkowsky.

I hope that you’re not doing this out of animus for Palin or a misplaced sense of loyalty for Murowski. It is troubling that a poor decision on the part of a former Senator is matched by a poor decision on the part of one of RS’s premier posters. At any rate, thank you for abiding by the rules of the site, and I wish you well in your personal endeavors from here to Nov 3.

it goes to show that we no nothings might be better off because we are not inside political machines. You Achance chose local, and personal loyalty over the party we need to stop creeping statism and socialism in America.

Thanks for all the positive, informative discussions, I will mostly miss the Civil War threads and other non political diaries. But I agree you should go, we can’t spend any more time fighting each other on this.

out of respect.
Maybe he just needs a cooling off period.
Having a wife leave you does harm and dilutes your thinking.
He’s a good man.
give him the benifit of the doubt.
God bless and good wishes.

I have respected your views on about everything else but (strangely) the Alaskan political scene. Your loyalties to the Murkowskis have blinded your views there. It reminds me very much of Robert E. Lee, a generally decent and honorable man, whose loyalty prolonged a very nasty war and put him in defense of an ugly institution.

you *are* leaving the Republican Party. You may want to call it the Palin Party but it’s no more the Palin Party than the Republican Party in 2008 was the McCain Party.

A whole bunch of us didn’t like that he was nominated and we’ve spent the last two years trying to make the GOP more to our liking. But it never stopped being the Republican Party.

The right way for you and those who believe as you do re: Palin is to work to make sure that something like this, from your viewpoint, never happens again. Instead, you have decided to throw your lot in with a woman who refuses to abide by the rules she accepted when she declared her candidacy for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate.

I’m sorry…it really is that simple.

this is too silly for you

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

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Lisa allegedly tells you she’s not going Rogue….then she goes to Washington….and everything changes?

Who got to her?

What is she getting out of this?

Is it the establishment Republicans circling the Wagon?

Hot air has a piece up the says some Senators secretly put her up to it.

Countdown begins: How long before Olympia Snowe leaves the GOP?

Murkowski said she’d found some support among fellow senators, even if none was openly telling reporters they would back her write-in bid.

“The encouragement is, ‘Do what is right,’ ” Murkowski said colleagues told her. “And that’s ultimately what you look to do. Do what is right for the people that you represent and your state and yourself, your family. If you do what’s right, all is good.”

Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, a moderate senator, wouldn’t disclose what sort of conversation she had had with Murkowski Thursday, other than to say that “she’s a great colleague and a friend as well.” But Snowe also said Thursday that the Republican Party wouldn’t achieve a majority with the tea party alone. It would also require moderate Republicans like herself, Snowe said, and members “across the range of political philosophy.”

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

You’ve been a poor sport not getting your way lately, anyway.

Just remember: When the Democrat wins because of Murkowski’s antics, I said, “Told ya’ so.”

You *do* know, because you’ve replied to some posts, that you’re not the only one who dislikes Palin around here.

You also know, I suppose, that even if Murcowski* wins, she’s going to have some bridge-building to do since, unlike Sen. Lieberman, the Miller vs. Murkowsky* race wasn’t a “petulant child” bit.

Talk to you after the ballots are counted. Oh, and if there aren’t two Dem Senators seated from Alaska, it may even be in a civil tongue.

Mew

* Ace makes a good point – if it’s to be a write-in campaign, they have to get her name right – and I do not support her in this, so refuse to help….

Wish I knew you better. I have read your posts for quite awhile now and you always made sense (almost always).

I am sorry you are betting on the wrong filly, –many men have chosen the wrong bet over the centuries.

I respect your choice.

Sincerely,
a woman who knows a she-wolf in sheep skin,
when she sees one.

At least you had the grace to honor the rules, unlike Lisa Murkowski.

You seem like a good guy, despite your intemperate posts on this subject.. I’ve rec’d several of your posts in the past, but I do really think you have handled this poorly in terms of making personal attacks on those who have been defending our nominee.

I understand that “blood is thicker than water” and that you have a history with the Murkowskis. So you’ll make your choice and live with the consequences, for good or Ill.

For my money though, I don’t have a stake in the game— I’m neither fanatically Pro or Anti-Palin. But I have to say that of all of the career politicians RINOS who have been exposed this cycle, IMHO, Murkowski, who was handed the seat by her dad, and has benefited from the party for decades, has to be the worst and most unprincipled. She lost fair and square in the biggest ever Republican Senate Primary turnout in Alaska. Her subsequent actions have been nothing but disgraceful.

I’m going to fight like heck to keep her out of the seat, and if she wins, I will do everything in my power to see that she is not seated in the Republican caucus in the Senate. I’d rather take the temporary loss of that seat than grant encouragement to other similar unprincipled politicians in the future.

It must be tough to see your world change.

But it will change for the better.

The goal is to knock off as many socialists and commies as we can.

And Obama is the ultimate prize.

As much as you hate Palin – she is the only one with enough juice to get the job done.

Murkowski, Bennett & Castle will be sad footnotes in history and will be seen as the time that American politics took a very right tack.

If you’ve chosen the third party path, then you do need to depart.

Hope to see you again after the election, working in support of Senator-elect Miller.

Blam.

Honouring personal friendship is noble.

This isn’t clever from a politics perspective though; you’re going to lose big.

nt

Even the mean ones. See you on the flip side.

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Wow, couldn’t sleep tonite so I came here to do some reading. And I find this. I didn’t agree with Art some of the time, but that man knew a thing or two or three about Alaskan politics and numerous other subjects. You gotta respect a man who shows that much passion. He’ll be missed by me fo sure.

but I will miss having you around Mr. Art Chance.

I am far too seasoned in politics to let one race come between me and a friend and I will always consider you one regardless of this post’s original content.

I support Miller one hundred percent (for the record), but find it sad that one race like this has disrupted so many long friendships.

Redstate “allowed” 100X the insanity from Achance then they ever would another person on this site. He became bitter after Palin became a superstar in 08, he never could let the bitterness go. In the end she is the one who is getting Conservatives elected. She is the one who is raising money hand over fist for the Republican Party, not Murkowski and not Art Chance.

Do you not all think that there is some “brilliant” tactician just like Achance in FL, DE etc? they ALL think they are smarter then the PEOPLE! the difference this election cycle and EVERYONE who was paying attention knew it, was that those attached to the Political Class were going to be DESTROYED.

This election cycle and the next was ALWAYS going to be about not the R’s and D’s but Conservatives and Socialists and WE are indeed taking out BOTH R’s and D’s.

BTW the sound of the Political Class squealing like a stuck pig is indeed music to my ears!

I said one in an earlier comment, but reading this, I see it’s two.

1) A pure, blinding hatred for Sarah Palin

2) Another case of pushback from “establishment Republicans” – but this time at the state level. If the Alaska GOP is becoming “the Palin party” is that maybe because there was a hint of “tea party” up there a few years early? Just as at the national level, the old guard sees the young whippersnappers climbing the ladder, but they aren’t willing to let go of the platform just yet…and more so, are trying desperately to step on the fingers of those climbing up. Being “in charge” means everything – the idea of letting go is simply too much for them to bear.

I hate to see this, but I think it’s just the same story, but at a local level and right in front of our eyes (where normally such things happen behind closed doors).

has bolted the party when they didn’t win the primary? Is this the fourth one this election cycle, or the fifth?

You know how Liberals always get upset if you question their patriotism?

Rino’s are kinds like that too, NO FREAKING LOYALTY, and they don’t play well with others, They like to take their footballs and run home.

Petulant spoiled brats with entitlement attitudes.

Come to think of it they ARE just like liberals.

In the two years that I have been registered at Redstate, the name Palin has incited riots in the comment threads, and, Achance had the audacity to brag that he was capable of “shutting down threads” because of it. I believe that many avoided Palin diaries, and/or comments, as they knew that the attack dogs would be out in full force, of course Achance being the leader of the pack.

Whatever you think about Palin, she is here, and, has done some great work in supporting conservative candidates, mostly. Whatever her future endeavors may be, in 2010, she and the Tea Parties have been a major force in taking the GOP back from those Republicans that believe their elections were lifetime God given gifts.

Achance has been able to convince many that he was the only voice of knowledge of politics in AK, forgiving him for his seething hatred of Palin, and anything she touched in AK. If you start with that knowledge, you would have seen this whole Murkowski thing coming.

I believe Achance has a very inflated opinion of himself, and, that has more than come through with many of his comments. He posted lat night, at 8:47 PM, that he had 14 minutes to get to the Murkowski kickoff, where a lot of his friends would be. Yet, he proceeded to comment every few minutes after that on another Murkowski diary, which culminated in this diary being posted at 11:34 PM. What happened to the kickoff he was going to attend?

Achance has made many comments to other members here that they didn’t know what they were talking about, because they never held elected office, or had their name on the door. Achance was never elected to office, he was appointed to his position in AK Government, and remained there as an appointee. Sure, being on the inside of Government gives anyone a unique perspective on what is happening within the machine, but, everyone sees things through their own prism, observations, and experiences, which are unique to that one personality. Many, in similar positions, will interpret things very differently. To allow only one person to control the debate is foolish, particularly when that one person approaches most debates with a very deep seated hatred of Palin, and anyone connected to her. I wonder how many other Alaskans would have liked to join in the debates, here at Redstate, but, stayed away because they knew the attack dog would be hunting them down.

If you look around the web, you will find comments in many places from people who have linked Achance with Redstate, and not in any positive way. Most have questioned why he was allowed to post whatever he chose, yet others were banned for posting less incendiary rhetoric. It has amazed me that he has even attacked the moderators, Eric, Leon on the other Murkowski diary, and anyone who dares to disagree with him, and he never even got a warning to tone it down, in public anyway.

Maybe now we can rescue those frogs from the pot, and get down to electing Republicans in the General, every one of them.

It could be entitled “Bored of The Rings.” I’m sure Quaker in the Basement has emailed him already.

to see Achance gone. He has always had so much insight, and so much to contribute from his experience. I hope, after there is a Sen. Miller, that there is a path to reconciliation.

Yes, Mr. Chance was rough at times, but he also took his share of bashings as well. (Obvious by this thread alone). He had his opinion and his freedom of speech, which he used quite often, most times contrary to the popular opinion here, including my own. It is easy to continue to post shots at this man who is not able to defend himself.

A long time ago, I recall a diary that was on the recco’d list for a very long time that basically slammed President George W. Bush. I hated it. I hated that it was there forever. I didn’t comment about it then but every time I saw it, I cringed. Well, I’m saying it now. This is making me cringe.

I am glad this is happening at the midterms.

We are in a war here. Everyone needs to toughen up.
What the RINO’s are throwing at us is nothing compared to what the socialists have in mind for 2012. Time to clean house. Close up ranks and report to duty.

as one person who just could not let it go and could not respect others opinions without resorting to name calling and threats now looses his posting rights and is banned. Almost 5 years on the site and many many brilliant postings, helpful insights, etc all shot to hell because of anger and a refusal to accept the will of the people.

Hopefully, after a period of cooling down, his ban is lifted so that we can all mend fences, move on, and can continue to hear his thoughts on things that matter.

Art is gone, at least for now. I was truly saddened by this but he did it to himself and there is no reason to keep beating on him or each other (which is basically what this has turned into). There are more important issues that could use and benefit greatly from the attention and talent that is being sidetracked by this frankly dead issue, let it die peacefully.

Art if you read this Best Wishes and God Bless.