OK, it’s after midnight ’cause I’ve been writing a brief so I can make some money. Holocaust is one of those words that has been thrown around until it is now some shapeless, meaningless hunk of something. There really was a Holocaust or Shoah, the Hebrew term for it. I’m not an academic historian and I’m working from memory, so save the nitpicking; if you find something to corect, correct it.
At the beginning, the NSDAP, the Nazis, were actually a pretty rational response to hyperinflation, predatory reparations, and communism within Germany. Unfortunately, like some even here in America today, Hitler and his followers were convinced of a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the financial system and thus Germany and the Western World and held that conspiracy responsible for the “knife in the back” of German in the Kaiser’s War.
By the late ’30s the Nazi’s had essentially made Jews into a Weberian “other;” they were non-persons in Germany and essentially had no civil rights. You could treat a Jew the same way you could treat a dog in the World before PETA came along. As the war began, the Nazis became more inclusive; Poles, Slavs from Eastern Europe and Western Russia, Gypsies, homosexuals, disabled persons, and most anybody the Nazis didn’t like became “others” outside the reach of civil justice.
Extermination began with the military officers and intelligencia of Poland and was done enthusiastically by both the Germans and the Soviets. Jews were just herded into the ghettos early on. As German conquest continued, anyone who got in their way or who might become a leader simply died of a 9mm brain hemmorhage courtesy of the Gestapo. That was pretty much equal opportunity. It didn’t much matter what your belief system or ethnicity was, if you could be a threat, you died.
When the Germans turned east on 22 June 1941, the Holocaust began. The massive German pincer movements left millions of troops and civilians behind German lines. The rear eschelon Wehrmacht troops and the einsatzcommando (special action groups) filled in behind the front rank Wehrmacht units. Their job was to find and eliminate Jews and political opponents. At this stage of the war, it was done by rounding them up, making them dig a trench, and machine-gunning them into the trench. That process took a lot of time and ammunition and was hard on troop morale since the feldgrau didn’t find much honor in machine gunning women and children. The Germans tried all sorts of stuff. For a while tractor trailers with the tractor’s exhaust piped into the trailer filled with Jews and other political prisoners was a favored option. Esterminating the enemies of the Reich was proving to be both a complex and expensive proposition.
But, by ’42 or so German industry and technology had solved the problem. It is one of the great ironies of the Second World War that the Wehrmacht often lacked transport for its troops, armor, ammunition, and supplies, but the SS NEVER lacked transport for Jews and other undesirables. The Germans set up industrial scale extermination centers across occupied Europe. Auschwitz was only the biggest and most notorious. These camps were simply death factories. Most had some industrial component attached to them where German war production was carried on. Jews, Soviet soldiers, and other undesirables were worked on a 500 – 1000 calorie a day diet until they could work no more and then sent back to the camp for extermination.
Machine-gunning had proven problematic, CO poisoning was time-consuming and expensive, but a powerful industrial insecticide, Zyclon-B, turned out to be just the trick. Jews and other undesirables could just be herded into the “showers,” dosed with Zyclon-B, and after a suitable interval, hauled to the ovens; the stench of burning flesh hovered over all of the concentration camps day and night. To save labor, the Germans even recruited from the Jews and other undesirables to do all the dirty work. The kapos got to live a little longer before their 9mm brain hemorhage or shower came.
There really was nothing special about it. The Wehrmacht took a town. The “Special Action Group” came in and took care of the Jews and undesirables; sorta’ like urban renewal. If you still have some belief in the “good German” read Goldhagen’s “Hitler’s Willing Executioners.” Everything the Germans did in the East was properly enacted in the most democratic country that was a combatant in WWII. The “healthy opinion of the Volk” is the most common justification of German actions in German court decisions of the Nazi era.
I don’t know that anybody really knows the numbers. It is undisputable that Jews were essentially wiped out in Europe. The Germans killed millions of Soviet soldiers, gypsies, homosexuals, common criminals, and pretty much anyone else who didn’t fit into their Nietsche-esque view of what the Superman might look like.
Go look it up; the literature is out there so that you can make your own decisions about what happens when technology meets ideology and there are no values to inform that meeting.
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penguin2 (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 7:22AM EST (link)It is unfortunate that time seems to dim the stark atrocity that was the Holocaust.
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Now I have to give Alan Grayson credit ...
Martin Knight (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 7:31AM EST (link)… for you writing this.
I don’t know how you do it. But … spellbinding as always, Art.
Most people do not realize that millions of non-Jews were also killed in the Holocaust
JSobieski (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 10:38AM EST (link)http://remember.org/forgotten/
I remember talking to a very well educated college graduate who had never even heard for example, that at least a million non-Poles were also killed (a number that does not include combat deaths), and the actual number is probably higher.
In large part, evil exists because people doubt its existence and thus are unlikely to confront it until it is too late. Evil forces us to make difficult and inconvenient decisions, and most of us don’t like that.
I don’t know how any educated person can study history without either (1) becoming terminally depressed or (2) believing in God.
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My motivation to write was inspired by the following sentence
JSobieski (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 10:42AM EST (link)J”ews, Soviet soldiers, and other undesirables were worked on a 500 – 1000 calorie a day diet until they could work no more and then sent back to the camp for extermination.”
Given all of the attrocities committed by the Soviets in WWII, I was repulsed at them being the only named non-Jewish group. As commented in the diary, the Soviets did quite a bit Nazi-liked behavior in Poland during and after the war, they just weren’t as effective in bringing industrial practices to their brutality.
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half a million or so Gypsies,
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 4:29PM EST (link)people with retardation, and homosexuals were also worked to death, or killed outright. In addition, Germany’s Croatian and Albanian allies performed their own genocides in Yugoslavia.
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I really hate that 'banality' phrase.
Alberta (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 11:34AM EST (link)Whether intended or not, I think it tends to grow the idea that the people who willfully and gleefully took part in the murder of millions were somehow duped into it, or were just braindead henchmen. That what happened was normal and that anybody could have been caught up with it.
As you alluded to, the Germans and the people of East Europe (hell, even the French) were all too willing executioners, who knew exactly what they were doing and did it anyways.
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It's actually Hannah Arendt's phrase in a work
Achance (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 1:05PM EST (link)in which she rebutted those who held that the shoah was conducted by hate-filled fanatics and sociopaths. Yes, there were some, but the millions who died in the Shoah were mostly killed by ordinary men “just doing their job” and “just following orders.” The notion that non-Germans were “others” or unter menschen (sub-humans) was so pervasive that no lasting thought was given to what was being done to them.
The “Good German” who wasn’t a Nazi and didn’t do or even know about the atrocities was a fiction we manufactured to rehabilitate Germany after the war and more cynically because we needed Germany allied with the US rather than the Soviet Union.
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer comes to mind...
H (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 6:11PM EST (link)as the Lutheran theologian/pastor who was treated to to a stay in a concentration camp followed by a hanging for being perceived as a leader in a small protestant resistance movement. He was martyred for being anti-Nazi. German Catholic priests and nuns died in great numbers. Polish priests and nuns in even greater numbers.
BBC German language broadcasts presented irrefutable stories of the holocaust to the German people. So by the end of the war, no German could credibly deny that they didn’t know. But while no one was exempted from membership in the Nazi party, there are vast records of German citizens brought up on charges for “Jewish sympathies” – enough to bully their neighbors into silence. Those deemed “unenthusiastic” in participating in Nazi Youth activities were assigned hard labor, or worse.
Certainly the holocaust, conducted as a separate national initiative from the war, could not have been possible without the silence of the population in general. But you make your case against all Germans without exception by sheer assertion. To say “The “Good German” who wasn’t a Nazi and didn’t do or even know about the atrocities was a fiction” is refuted, among other places, at the end of the rope from which Dietrich Bonhoeffer hung.
No excuses for Germany. IMHO, it deserved the fate of Hiroshima and Nagasaki more so than did Japan. But to say there was not a good German soul to be found strikes me as a morally flawed argument.
I think you are looking at glass 60% full and calling it empty
JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 5:52PM EST (link)There were many many instances of brave resistance in WWII. Considering the risks they were taking, lots of people were saved. Entire populations resisted to the degree that they could. Were some people collaborators? Sure, but a surprising and impressive number were not.
For example, the Polish underground did a heck of lot of sabotage, intelligence gathering, Jew smuggling, etc.
Moreover, unlike the French, there were no Poles in the SS.
The Poles resisted far more tintensely and pervasively than the French did. The active Polish army units that fought throughout the war also got screwed repeatedly by Allied command.
No WWII statement should be made in which the French are deemed to have been more resistive to the Nazis than the Poles.
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STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
No, the glass was nothing like 60% full; not in Poland,
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 11:06PM EST (link)not in France, not even in the Balkans, though communist resistance was very active there. Even Italy who did resist somewhat did it by a manipulative and passive resistance. The Ukraine could easily have been recruited into the German orbit were it not for German racial policy that saw them as subhuman Slavs.
Yes, you’re right; there were resisters; few, proud, and brave. There were supporters of the resistance, more but not nearly so brave nor reliable. Maybe 10-20% did something, some actual action, in resistance. The rest either helped the Germans or stood idly by.
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I didn't mean to imply that the resistance was 60%
JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, October 7th at 4:20PM EST (link)however, there was an active resistance in ways big and small.
How many Jews for example were smuggled out of the death zone?
To characterize all countries as being equally passive is totally unfair.
There was no Vichy Poland.
There were no Poles serving in the SS.
There was no Paris uprising.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
What strikes me from your narration is the lack of passion
civil truth (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 12:16PM EST (link)In the minds of the perpetrators, it was like exterminating insects – the emotional attachment to the vicitms as fellow-humans had long been extinguished. No violent hatred; indeed the effort was to push this away from consciousness – as you note, to make the death so pervasive that is just faded into the background (for those not killed, of course) as another fact of the planet.
Having just seen a play adaptation of the Screwtape Letters, I am again reminded of Lewis’ view of modern-day evil and Hell; not the visceral fires and anguish of, say Dante – but rather as Lewis phrased it, a “thoroughly nasty bureaucracy,” or perhaps more closely, Stalinist Russian. And the Nazis in their heyday chiefly differed from the Stalinists in that they were even more efficient in the execution of mass murder.
And again, it is the lack of passion – and this unceasing preoccupation with self that Lewis called the hallmark of hell – this characteristic is so dominant in Obama – and it is this trait, even more than his devotion to Communist ideology, that makes Obama so scary.
Read again Lewis’ introduction to Screwtape Letters – and then look at our leadership in Washington…
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
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Every time you bring up this point, civil truth,
janis (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 12:25PM EST (link)it creeps me out all over again. Truly, is there ANYTHING this man wouldn’t do to add some gloss to his perception of himself? That’s what is so frightening about Obama: that there is literally nothing he wouldn’t consider doing if he thought it would make him even more important/loved/adored.
And I wonder how clearly he sees what a majority of us now think of him and his abilities. If he recognizes that the majority of us dislike him and his policies at this point, will he just double down and force more or will he try to woo some back by tempering his behavior? My guess is that he will be angry and just punish us by forcing more marxist policies upon us.
janis, can you recall every seeing real passion displayed by Obama?
penguin2 (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 12:42PM EST (link)I can’t. Every view of him, show a tightly controlled man with almost no expression. His face is almost never relaxed. Detached is the word that comes to mind.
That is worrisome to me. A detached leader without passion.
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penguin, I think his only passion is himself.
janis (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 12:53PM EST (link)The only times that I can think of when he’s gotten mad is when something directly confronts his perception of himself as all-knowing and all-powerful. General McChrystal made remarks in public that directly challenged Obama to do the right thing in Afghanistan. And Obama got mad.
Obama’s continuing preoccupation with Sarah Palin, a private citizen at this point who he’s made fun of quite a few times, is indicative of just how bitterly he resents her for stepping all over his press coverage the day after the Dem Convention last year. Her rollout as VP candidate just pushed His Wonderfulness off the front page last year and he will never forget that.
So true, janis
TNJim (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 1:02PM EST (link)The only time I’ve seen him display anything approaching real passion is when he’s dissed. The Palin thing you mentioned, plus the ongoing vitriol against Fox News. Some may argue he gets pretty passionate about drumming up health
careinsurance reform but to me that comes off as sorta feigned. No, the real passion comes out when he’s opposed.when he was in Africa
mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 1:00PM EST (link)I thought he looked like a different person due to his smile. He seemed really happy to be there. It was a big contrast to how he normally appears.
On the other hand I wonder what cameras due to people…either way..some people look a lot worse and some look better!
If he looked happy in Africa, it's because he was
janis (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 1:05PM EST (link)being lauded as a hero of the people there. He’s never happier than when he’s surrounded by those who worship him.
he really showed a different look to him
mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 1:17PM EST (link)I remember posting about how happy he looked. I searched google and found these pics, the site has an ads not appropriate for kids so that is my warning if little eyes are close by your screen! He really looks like a different man:
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/africa/features/article_1489245.php/In_Pictures_President_Barack_Obama_Visits_Ghana
Also I think he gave some type of
mom2oneson (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 1:27PM EST (link)conservative – be good citizens – be good leaders type of speech there too!!!!!
If you haven't read "Hitler's Willing Executioners,"
Achance (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 3:37PM EST (link)you should, though I’ll warn you that it is very dry and dense. Goldhagen is a Jew and definitely has a point of view, but the book has withstood withering criticism. He posits that the Shoah was as German as apple streudal (or whatever their equivalent to Apple pie would be). I found him pretty convincing.
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i am ambivalent about Goldhagen's book.
GCBWI (Diary) Friday, October 9th at 6:50PM EST (link)it seemed to me that Goldhagen was blaming individuals for participating in the brutality of the Holocaust even while he was arguing that anti-semetic sentiments were so thoroughly ingrained in German society that it was for all practical purposes inevitable that Germans would participate.
It wouldn’t hurt for me to re-read the book, i suppose.
The leader (PM?) of Isreal this week in a
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, October 5th at 8:39PM EST (link)speech said that the holocaust wiped out one third of the Jews in the entire world.
Monolithic control
Daniel Horowitz (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 11:48AM EST (link)Great post Art,
The other thing that I find worthy of mention is the fact that they fully controlled media, academia, entertainment , and all venues of information dissemination. It just goes to show that when you have such control you can get a majority of people to believe the most outrageous things. This is not the dark ages in Africa. We are talking about 20th century Western Europe. Not that I am comparing liberals to Nazis, but Its not hard to understand how they can successfully persuade people to believe in the most absurd things like global warming due to their full control of information dissemination.
I've seen it personally.
NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 12:23PM EST (link)A very, very solemn place. It can’t really be described in words.
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I haven't; it's on my list. I took a class on the Holocaust
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 2:16PM EST (link)a few years back. You had to choose a theme, read and review three books through that theme, write a not less than 20 page paper and give a 10 minute precis of your paper. I chose “The Legal Basis of the Holocaust” and did a lot of research on the workings of the German legal system under the Nazis.
The thing that struck me most was the fact that Germany was far and away the most developed, sophisticated, educated, and democratic country in the developed world at the time. Almost everything that they did and that we later named Crimes Against Humanity was done through the processes and with the authority of a democratic government and supported by their court system. It was a very dark, ugly world and I don’t recommend spending a semester there. I can hardly visualize a sunny day in Germany of that era.
I initially got B on my paper from my very leftist professor who just ripped into me for my conclusion that the elimination of any moral absolutes turns a democracy into a monstrous system capable of doing anything that comported with “the healthy opinion of the Volk.” I wasn’t taking a B, though I’ll admit it wasn’t a particularly well done paper, so I asked to see some of the A papers. I knew that only a small minority of the mostly juniors and seniors in college could even write in complete sentences, so I wanted to see what he thought was an A paper. Of course he refused, so I said I was appealing the grade to the chancellor and we could all see the A papers together. He relented and I got my A.
Comrade Obama mastered the “healthy opinion” of 52% of the American “Volk,” and all it would take is a few tweaks of those moldy old documents to render those who don’t share the “opinion” of the 52% non-persons outside the protections afforded persons under the law. That is the ultimate danger of secularism. We’ve removed people from the protections of civil society in this Country before; the slaves before 1866, the Nisei, unborn children now. A few words in a USSC decision or in an Act of Congress would be all it took.
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S/b a reply to Nighttwister. "Reply to This" is driving
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 3:28PM EST (link)me nuts lately – I know; short trip. Running IE8 and I have to clear the history every hour or so Red State just hangs up. Reply to This is the first thing to go.
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I figured it was.
NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 4:59PM EST (link)I quit using IE for RS a long time ago. It just wasn’t worth the frustration. Firefox and Chrome seem to work well.
I had to argue for a grade once on an economics paper. First the instructor told me the paper was too good and ran it through the system to make sure it wasn’t plagiarized. Then he gave me a “C” on the paper. We argued back & forth a bit and then admitted he was wrong and gave me the “A”.
After going through that section in the museum at Dachau I’d say you’re right. There are more similarities between where we’re headed now and that time than most people are willing to admit. Funny how once you start compromising on morality there’s really nothing to stop you. It truly is a slippery slope.
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Loren Heal (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 3:24PM EST (link)Here is the blog post from a couple of years back.
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Democracies vs Republics
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 9:44PM EST (link)A full-blown democracy can be a terrible thing. Sometimes the will of the people has to be tested and proven to be decent. Give the mob everything they want, and you can pretty much expect the Salem Witch Trials.
For some reason hearing that the entire Final Solution made it through the German Democratic process as the will of the people makes me regret our constitutional amendment in favor of the direct election of Senators.
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It wasn't like there was an Act of the Reichstag
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, October 6th at 11:10PM EST (link)that said something like, “Be it enacted that the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem Shall be Carried Out by the SS.” The acts of the Reichstag as interpreted by the courts basically made all the “undesirables” something less than persons and not entitled to the protections of personhood and law. Consequently, anyone with power could do whatever they wanted to with them; keep them as pets as the SS did with pretty Jewish or Slavic women or just kill them as they did with most.
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Then the 'L' in Drake's Equation...
OccamsRazor (Diary) Wednesday, October 7th at 2:26AM EST (link)is too short for my liking, when Humanity applies, and I’m eating dessert first from now on.
Never Forget.
I think the "L" factor is especially short in democracies.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, October 7th at 4:14PM EST (link)At some point a majority figures out that they can just confiscate the wealth of everyone else and it’s a sleighride to Hell from there.
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Holocaust
bking (Diary) Friday, October 9th at 12:52PM EST (link)Firstly, calling Nazis a rational response is bunk. They were always war mongering predators playing on impoverished Germans’ hatred and the Jews were just always a great target. There was always going to be a target, the Jews were the easiest. I find your 101 to be a 1.1 as far as covering the essentials of the topic.
Secondly, the idea that Holocaust only or should only refer to the Holocaust of the Jews during WWII is even more bunk. Nuclear holocaust is a readily used term and has been for decades. Holocaust means great loss of life, especially by fire (but not necessarily). So while you can squabble over whether or not the term should be used as freely as it sometimes is, saying or implying that it only should is not only wrong, it’s overtly PC. I won’t take that from a Dem and I won’t take it from a Republican.
Darfur is a holocaust. Somalia was/is a holocaust. The Soviets had a bigger holocaust. China had THE biggest holocaust. And yes, natural causes are included so the Tsunami was a holocaust. Any great loss of life can be applicably called a holocaust. And I say this as a person who doesn’t call anything a holocaust but The Holocaust in conversation. So don’t lecture me or anyone else on words we should use or not use. That kind of thinking is how textbooks are created.
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And when the Idiot Holocaust comes, it's the end for you. nt
Achance (Diary) Friday, October 9th at 7:21PM EST (link)In Vino Veritas